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AB's v Samoa

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    Isn't the point of this game to give the ABs team a warm-up, so that we're not going up against the Lions cold?

    If that's the case, I can't see much point in starting anything but the closest we can to the XV we plan to use against the Lions.

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    @Chris-B. said in AB's v Samoa:

    Isn't the point of this game to give the ABs team a warm-up, so that we're not going up against the Lions cold?

    If that's the case, I can't see much point in starting anything but the closest we can to the XV we plan to use against the Lions.

    I'd agree with that but I think you would want to limit the minutes of some of the Crusaders tight forwards in this game. If you include the Highlanders game, they will be playing 5 big games in as many weeks.

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      @Chris-B. said in AB's v Samoa:

      Isn't the point of this game to give the ABs team a warm-up, so that we're not going up against the Lions cold?

      If that's the case, I can't see much point in starting anything but the closest we can to the XV we plan to use against the Lions.

      I'd agree with that but I think you would want to limit the minutes of some of the Crusaders tight forwards in this game. If you include the Highlanders game, they will be playing 5 big games in as many weeks.

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      @Bovidae I think the front rowers should be in pretty reasonable nick. Razor hasn't been scared to run out Crockett/Funnell/Alaalatoa early in the second half in many games. Sam Whitelock would be the one who's played a lot of minutes - though he got that imposed rest at a good time so he's only had a four week run vs Chiefs/Rebels/Highlanders/Lions.

      Pakman's team looks about right. I think Scott Barrett is a good bet as bench lock, since he definitely needs a run. Agree with Billy Tell, that Taylor might be under pressure from Harris after Saturday.

      Dagg didn't look right to me in the second half vs Lions. If he's fit, he'll surely play, but I reckon that points to Jordie getting the bench spot. If he's not fit, maybe Ben Smith goes to the wing and Jordie gets the start and if that worked out OK that might even be what they went with in the first test!!!

      They will be wanting the two fullbacks/high ball exponents.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @Bovidae I think the front rowers should be in pretty reasonable nick. Razor hasn't been scared to run out Crockett/Funnell/Alaalatoa early in the second half in many games. Sam Whitelock would be the one who's played a lot of minutes - though he got that imposed rest at a good time so he's only had a four week run vs Chiefs/Rebels/Highlanders/Lions.

        Pakman's team looks about right. I think Scott Barrett is a good bet as bench lock, since he definitely needs a run. Agree with Billy Tell, that Taylor might be under pressure from Harris after Saturday.

        Dagg didn't look right to me in the second half vs Lions. If he's fit, he'll surely play, but I reckon that points to Jordie getting the bench spot. If he's not fit, maybe Ben Smith goes to the wing and Jordie gets the start and if that worked out OK that might even be what they went with in the first test!!!

        They will be wanting the two fullbacks/high ball exponents.

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        @Chris-B. in previous years we've gone into a test like this with what ended up being a very different lineup to the first big test.

        A number of guys need some serious game time, but others will need a lighter workload to freshen up for three consecutive tests.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @Chris-B. in previous years we've gone into a test like this with what ended up being a very different lineup to the first big test.

          A number of guys need some serious game time, but others will need a lighter workload to freshen up for three consecutive tests.

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          @ACT-Crusader True - but, then they've released 6 guys to the Maori and Highlanders and Read, Coles, Crotty and Cruden are all unlikely to play in this game, so there's not too many variations can be made within the squad 33.

          I can't see the point in playing Tu'ungafasi. Scott Barrett certainly needs the game time and I expect him to play here, but not in the first test. Sopoaga will need to back-up from the Highlanders game and one of Jordie or Laumape sits on the bench.

          Pakman's team with my suggested variations would mean everyone getting a game this week except Ofa, Romano and Laumape - plus they'll need to dip into their stand-by pool for a loose-forward.

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            Realise I missed that Naholo playing for Clan. UK press full of Warburton saying he doubts he'll make first test and would not expect to start Maori match.

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              I hope that Raynal is not going to ruin this game, too.

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                I hope that Raynal is not going to ruin this game, too.

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                @Stargazer nah, we are rumoured to be stronger at scrum time so he'll ping Samoa all night.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Stargazer nah, we are rumoured to be stronger at scrum time so he'll ping Samoa all night.

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                  @taniwharugby LOL, don't want that either. Just want a game that's entertaining and where the lead role is not played by the ref.

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                    Any idea when the team is named?

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                      Any idea when the team is named?

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                      @chimoaus said in AB's v Samoa:

                      Any idea when the team is named?

                      The team is:

                      1 Viliamu Afatia - Racing 92 - Vailoa Palauli/Salelavalu/Sapapali'i
                      2 Maatulimanu Leiataua - Bayonne - Manono/Safune
                      3 Census Johnston - Toulouse - Lalomanu/Falevao
                      4 Chris Vui -Worcester Warriors - Foaluga/Lano /Saasaai
                      5 Faatiga Lemalu - Saracens - Faleasiu/Lefaga
                      6 Piula Faasalele - Toulouse - Magiagi/Nofoalii
                      7 Jack Lam - Bristol - Gaitavai/Malie/Taga
                      8 Faifili Levave - Mitsubishi - Lalomanu/Fasito'o-Uta
                      9 Kahn Fotualii - Bath - Faleapuna
                      10 Tusiata Pisi - Bristol - Lefaga Safaatoa /Toamua
                      11 Tim Nanai Williams - Chiefs - Manono/Falelatai
                      12 Alapati Leiua - Wasps - Malie
                      13 Kieron Fonotia - Ospreys - Apia
                      14 Albert Nikoro - West Scarborough - Vaiala/Vaiusu
                      15 Ah See Tuala - Northampton Saints - Moamoa/Gaitavai

                      16 Seilala Lam - Nevers - Gaitavai /Malie/Taga
                      17 Nephi Leatigaga - Piacenza - Saleloga/Siumu
                      18 Paul Alo-Emile - Stade Francais - LeulumoegaTuai/Fasito'o-Tai/Falefa
                      19 Taiasina Tuifua - Lyon - Lauli'i
                      20 Alafoti Faosiliva - Worcester Warriors - Afega/Tuana'i
                      21 Auvasa Falealii - Nevers - Letogo/Lefaga Gagaifo
                      22 D’Angelo Leuila - Papatoetoe - Gaitavai/Fagalii
                      23 Ken Pisi - Northampton Saints - Lefaga Safaatoa /Toamua

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                        holy shit, how old is Census Johnson?

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                          holy shit, how old is Census Johnson?

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                          @mariner4life Levave must be getting on a bit too.

                          Bloody good backline.

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                            @mariner4life Levave must be getting on a bit too.

                            Bloody good backline.

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                            @Nepia said in AB's v Samoa:

                            @mariner4life Levave must be getting on a bit too.

                            Bloody good backline.

                            Three former Mako$ in that backline and another in the pack! đŸ™‚

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                              Interesting to see the dominance of European based players. Sign of the times I guess in regards to earning potential.

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                                Interesting to see the dominance of European based players. Sign of the times I guess in regards to earning potential.

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                                @chimoaus

                                I found this amusing:

                                22 D’Angelo Leuila - Papatoetoe - Gaitavai/Fagalii

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                                  He's also in the Blues dev squad.

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                                    @chimoaus

                                    I found this amusing:

                                    22 D’Angelo Leuila - Papatoetoe - Gaitavai/Fagalii

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                                    @booboo said in AB's v Samoa:

                                    @chimoaus

                                    I found this amusing:

                                    22 D’Angelo Leuila - Papatoetoe - Gaitavai/Fagalii

                                    Used to stay with an uncle from that suburb, he may have played for that well known team.

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                                      Some serious pace for Samoa at 13.

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                                        14 Albert Nikoro - West Scarborough - Vaiala/Vaiusu

                                        A winger from west Scarborough? Not good enough to make the full Scarborough team?

                                        I remember in the 95 World Cup, and it was quite amusing to see an unknown Auckland club rugby player like George Harder carving up against test opposition.

                                        Somehow, I don't think this will be quite the same.

                                        What League do they play in? Yorkshire?
                                        That Samoa are calling up an amateur or semi-pro outside back from low level English club rugby is quite sad.

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                                          14 Albert Nikoro - West Scarborough - Vaiala/Vaiusu

                                          A winger from west Scarborough? Not good enough to make the full Scarborough team?

                                          I remember in the 95 World Cup, and it was quite amusing to see an unknown Auckland club rugby player like George Harder carving up against test opposition.

                                          Somehow, I don't think this will be quite the same.

                                          What League do they play in? Yorkshire?
                                          That Samoa are calling up an amateur or semi-pro outside back from low level English club rugby is quite sad.

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                                          @Rapido said in AB's v Samoa:

                                          14 Albert Nikoro - West Scarborough - Vaiala/Vaiusu

                                          A winger from west Scarborough? Not good enough to make the full Scarborough team?

                                          I remember in the 95 World Cup, and it was quite amusing to see an unknown Auckland club rugby player like George Harder carving up against test opposition.

                                          Somehow, I don't think this will be quite the same.

                                          What League do they play in? Yorkshire?
                                          That Samoa are calling up an amateur or semi-pro outside back from low level English club rugby is quite sad.

                                          Not really, Nikoro has been close to Super rugby standard in the past - maybe they think they can get him up to standard?

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