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AB's v Samoa

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    Frank
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    Hoping to see Naholo and Ioane as the wings.

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    • chimoausC chimoaus

      Interesting to see the dominance of European based players. Sign of the times I guess in regards to earning potential.

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      @mimic said in AB's v Samoa:

      @chimoaus said in AB's v Samoa:

      Interesting to see the dominance of European based players. Sign of the times I guess in regards to earning potential.

      Looking at the starting XV, everyone played rugby in NZ except for Viliamu Afatia who I don't know about... I guess some could argue that Jack Lam grew up Austalian..
      But yes, very hard to pick a player from a super rugby team, as it would give them a pay cut... And let's be honest, most of the young guys still in NZ will try to be All Blacks first, and it's not until they hit their 30s and realise it's not possible, do they move on...
      Most who realise that they can't crack the ABs will move overseas as some earn more than super rugby players... It's ridiculous

      Also, Matt Duffie is of Samoan descent.

      I think this explains why you don't see many SR players in Samoan/Fijian/Tongan squads:

      Fonotia is eligible to play for the Manu through his grandfather, who was born in Samoa, and says it's something he had always wanted to do.
      
      He spent three years at Super Rugby level with the Crusaders but says the opportunity to play test rugby only eventuated after his switch to the Ospreys club in Wales.
      
      "It was sort of one of those things I had to do when I got overseas, by the way sort of Super Rugby rulings of foreign players (with only a limited number of non-New Zealand eligible players allowed in each franchise) the easiest time for me was when I went overseas," he said.
      

      http://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/333029/sport-samoa-call-up-a-dream-come-true-for-kieron-fonotia

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        Worth flagging up that this will be a Raeburn Shield match as well since the All blacks are the holders

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        Samoa have previously held the shield back in 1999 having won it off of Wales.

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        • F Frank

          Hoping to see Naholo and Ioane as the wings.

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          @Frank said in AB's v Samoa:

          Hoping to see Naholo and Ioane as the wings.

          Me too 🙂

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            The Ioane brothers and TKB will be playing Saturday night for the Maori so not considered for Friday night ABs v Samoa.

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              Ioane is with the Maori though so not likely to feature. Surely it will be Savea and Dagg.

              What happens if the Lions beat the ABs in the last test? Do they take the Raeburn shield?

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                Ioane is with the Maori though so not likely to feature. Surely it will be Savea and Dagg.

                What happens if the Lions beat the ABs in the last test? Do they take the Raeburn shield?

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                @pukunui

                The Lions are not eligible as they are not a national team but a "composite" team.

                If the All Blacks retain it then the next challenge is Australia in august during the rugby championship.

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                  As mentioned in the other thread, the AB team will be announced at 5 am on THURSDAY.

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                    @pukunui

                    The Lions are not eligible as they are not a national team but a "composite" team.

                    If the All Blacks retain it then the next challenge is Australia in august during the rugby championship.

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                    @Davesofthunder said in AB's v Samoa:

                    @pukunui

                    The Lions are not eligible as they are not a national team but a "composite" team.

                    If the All Blacks retain it then the next challenge is Australia in august during the rugby championship.

                    Thought that might be the case.

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                      All Blacks team to play Samoa at Eden Park tomorrow night:

                      Ben Smith (c), Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Joe Moodie.

                      Reserves Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Vaea Fifita, TJ Perenara, Lima Sopoaga, Jordie Barrett.

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                        Looking at that team, it's going to be a cricket score

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                          History in the making?

                          Three Barretts on the park together.

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                          • mimicM mimic

                            Looking at that team, it's going to be a cricket score

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                            @mimic said in AB's v Samoa:

                            Looking at that team, it's going to be a cricket score

                            Blackcraps cricket? Could be quite close...

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                              http://www.allblacks.com/News/30964/all-blacks-team-to-play-samoa-named Scott gets game time. Jordie makes up the trifecta, and is kicking backstop?

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                                Strong looking side ,

                                Who else could work their way into that side ? Naholo

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                                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                  Strong looking side ,

                                  Who else could work their way into that side ? Naholo

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                                  @kiwiinmelb said in AB's v Samoa:

                                  Strong looking side ,

                                  Who else could work their way into that side ? Naholo

                                  Read for Savea. Savea to bench. Bye bye Fifita. Cruden for Sopoaga. Possibly Naholo or Ioane for Savea or Barrett Jnr.

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                                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                    Strong looking side ,

                                    Who else could work their way into that side ? Naholo

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in AB's v Samoa:

                                    Strong looking side ,

                                    Who else could work their way into that side ? Naholo

                                    Romano could get on the bench. Ioane maybe if his form is irrepressible on Saturday in much the same way Naholo's was for the Highlanders perhaps he is a wildcard?

                                    Outside of that just injuries.

                                    Nicely done by Ben Smith, just the fourth back to captain NZ since David Kirk.

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                                    • mimicM mimic

                                      All Blacks team to play Samoa at Eden Park tomorrow night:

                                      Ben Smith (c), Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Joe Moodie.

                                      Reserves Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Vaea Fifita, TJ Perenara, Lima Sopoaga, Jordie Barrett.

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                                      No Quarter
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                                      Ben Smith (c)
                                      Israel Dagg
                                      Anton Lienert-Brown
                                      Sonny Bill Williams - Crotty may start
                                      Julian Savea
                                      Beauden Barrett
                                      Aaron Smith - Chance to claim the starting spot ahead of test one
                                      Ardie Savea - Read obviously with Ardie to the bench
                                      Sam Cane
                                      Jerome Kaino
                                      Brodie Retallick
                                      Sam Whitelock
                                      Owen Franks
                                      Codie Taylor
                                      Joe Moodie

                                      Nathan Harris
                                      Wyatt Crockett
                                      Charlie Faumuina
                                      Scott Barrett - Romano may be selected for test one due to experience
                                      Vaea Fifita - Ardie to bench, Fifita drops out of the 23
                                      TJ Perenara
                                      Lima Sopoaga - Cruden to come in if fit due to experience
                                      Jordie Barrett - SBW or Crotty depending who starts, Jordie drops out of the 23

                                      Overall the team is as expected, as close to a shadow test team while allowing a couple of guys more time to get themselves fit.

                                      Tough for Rieko to make it, he has to either take Crotty or SBWs spot (unlikely) or J Savea's starting position (possible, but unlikely for test one).

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                                        When was the team named?

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                                          When was the team named?

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                                          @Crucial said in AB's v Samoa:

                                          When was the team named?

                                          Wednesday (GMT)

                                          Strong team. Looking forward to seeing how Ardie goes at 8. Also interested to see how tgey use Jordie.

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