All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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@Rembrandt 1.89m, 102 kg according to the All Blacks' website. cf. Naholo at 1.86m, 96kg.
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Rembrandt 1.89m, 102 kg according to the All Blacks' website. cf. Naholo at 1.86m, 96kg.
Well I have to say that really surprises me. I'd back Naholo every time to run over or drag a couple defenders but I don't feel the same with Reiko. Hopefully my fears are totally unfounded and he has a storming game!
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Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
@Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising.. -
@Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..@mimic said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..Agree, he's been the blues best back this year by quite a margin. Made line breaks at will when they were carving up the crusaders (before we changed our game plan in the second half)
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@Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..@mimic said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..In the Blues-Canes game earlier in the year he showed himself to be at least as quick as BB when he was gaining on him after a break, so I don't doubt his speed.
I also don't doubt his power, look at one of his disallowed tries against the Lions for evidence - he powered through about 4 of them.
Still, a big ask for the young man in what is a huge test, I really thought they'd go with their tried and tested however I'm not unhappy as I picked Rieko to go ahead of Jules this year or next, he's a special talent.
Other surprise obviously Crotty at 13 where he hasn't played a lot. They must really rate his organsational skills to want to slot him in there. Tough on ALB but he'll provide some good impact off the bench if required.
Otherwise pretty much as expected. Taken Barrett over Romano for hia lineout work which makes sense.
Bring it on!
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@Tim Flogging the USA (something the U20s could do) and that shitshow in Apia.
I feel more comfortable having centres play centre and Crotty's a 2nd 5/8
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@Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..@mimic said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Rembrandt said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Anyone else got that lingering doubt about an AB team without a power winger? I thought Reiko was great against a fresh-off-the-boat lions side but they are a different beast now as he found out during the Maori game. Jules was very good against an albeit weaker Samoan sude while Naholo is in terrific form. I always feel those British teams really struggle with big powerful outside backs more so than the deft skillful ones. How big is Reiko anyway in comparison?
Rieko is pretty powerful. For fun, he likes to hold up forwards, to try and call for a maul. At Super level this year, he's broken the line more than Jules/Naholo and makes more tackles.
Also heard someone from the All Blacks camp say he's faster than Beauden and Naholo.. Not sure over what distance though.. I found that surprising..There was a discussion on here after a Blues v Canes game that Reiko might have caught Beauden on one runaway try but he dived too early.
It was pretty much dismissed, coz, Bauden is the fastest EVA. I've taken notice of his speed since then. He's fast.
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shit is it 2002 again? an ordinary Cantab picked over a superior player from up north. jesus...
Midfield a suprise, but looks strong, and ALB will be dynamite off the bench. Left wing is the most surprising selection in years i reckon. Savea has had worse form rewarded, and Reiko didn't do himself many favours on the weekend.
Good team, ABs by about 15.
For the Lions, I am pleased for O'Mahony, i really like him as a player, and to be the Lions test captain is just reward for him being an old-fashioned hard bastard. Bloody good team really, and we are going to have to work hard to break them down. Itoje, Webb and Sinckler will be good late in the game for them as well.
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@Tim bro, this faux-modesty thing does not become you, as a kiwi rugby fan. Those token Lions picks are so see-through
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It's obvious that Crotty has been moved out one position to accommodate SBW.
Crotty is an accurate player so I don't have any issues with him at centre. I do think a Crotty-ALB combo would be better.
From what I've seen neither Te'o or Davies offer much deception on attack. They'll be using changes of angles rather than speed of hands/feet to break the line. So SBW will need to be much better on defence than he was vs Samoa.
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It's obvious that Crotty has been moved out one position to accommodate SBW.
Crotty is an accurate player so I don't have any issues with him at centre. I do think a Crotty-ALB combo would be better.
From what I've seen neither Te'o or Davies offer much deception on attack. They'll be using changes of angles rather than speed of hands/feet to break the line. So SBW will need to be much better on defence than he was vs Samoa.
@Bovidae I guess given the limited rugby SBW has had in the past 12 months and what he has shown prior seems to be giving him the start.
Lets hope Allah repays AB fans the faith shown in SBW!
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@Tim Would have Vunipola over Moody but Codie over George. Dagg and Watson would be evens for mine.
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim Would have Vunipola over Moody but Codie over George. Dagg and Watson would be evens for mine.
This is George's first start in test rugby. Nothing qualifies him to be anything but an even, at best, IMO.
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@Tim Cant see TAB on there....
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Hansen from the 9.00 mark. Talks about the midfield and wing selections.
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017.06.22-12.30.00-S.mp3
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I like starting with SBW and Crotty - although I do think Crotty is a better 2nd 5 than centre. With the rush defense and ball runners the Lions will go with off ruck and set piece having SBW to blunt them is a good call.
They know SBW will attack the ball when making tackles, which will hopefully commit more Lions to rucks, and mean more opportunities for turnovers and breaks. It's a bonus that he's returned with more gas than before he was injured too.
This all sets us up nicely to see ALB coming on and gives us options about which of Crotty/SBW stays on.
