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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Thats a strange signing

    You'd assume Gatland would be the starting 10 and the back three would be Li/Duffie/Stevenson.

    Depth? They would be better off picking a young local..

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      Thats a strange signing

      You'd assume Gatland would be the starting 10 and the back three would be Li/Duffie/Stevenson.

      Depth? They would be better off picking a young local..

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      @Duluth Yeah, I assume they've signed him to replace Matt McGahan but surely there must have been better players available? Even if local and inexperienced?

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        @Tim said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

        1. Aso
        2. Faiane
        3. Moala
        4. Nanai/Trainor
        5. Nanai/Trainor

        Looks pretty good to me.

        There's plenty of good options from 4-8 and 11-15

        A back five of the scrum (assuming current AB selections) could be:
        Scrafton/Tuipulotu
        Gibson/Ioane/Seu

        We'll need more out of the young props this year. A fit GPT will help that too

        Then there is the 9 & 10.. A question for anyone who has watched Grammar TEC this season - how have Milo-Harris and Plummer gone? Are they ready to be the 9 & 10 combo at NPC level?

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        @Duluth Our front row stocks have been weak for a while now. Marcel Renata seems like the only one who has any sort of promise. McHugh and Isi Tu'ungafasi are shocking.

        We were all at sea with those experimental laws last season. I don't expect us to be as bad this season under the normal rules.

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          Again with signing an ordinary overseas player!

          Surely there's plenty of talent out there who have not yet played NPC wanting a start.

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          • African MonkeyA African Monkey

            @Duluth Our front row stocks have been weak for a while now. Marcel Renata seems like the only one who has any sort of promise. McHugh and Isi Tu'ungafasi are shocking.

            We were all at sea with those experimental laws last season. I don't expect us to be as bad this season under the normal rules.

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            @African-Monkey said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

            @Duluth Our front row stocks have been weak for a while now. Marcel Renata seems like the only one who has any sort of promise. McHugh and Isi Tu'ungafasi are shocking.

            We were all at sea with those experimental laws last season. I don't expect us to be as bad this season under the normal rules.

            Lindenmuth should be included in the squad. He's a very promising prop.
            Concerning the wings, I would have selected Caleb Clarke who was really impressive during the U20 WC.

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              Preseason game: Counties Manukau (Cavaliers) v Ta$man (Buccaneers)

              Today (Wed 28 June), kick-off: 2:00pm
              Manurewa Rugby Club - 25 Dr Pickering Ave, Manurewa

              Ta$man squad:

              1 Tom Hill, 2 Samiuela Moli, 3 Drew Petelo, 4 Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, 5 Shannon Frizell, 6 Ethan Blackadder (c), 7 Tone Ng Shiu, 8 Vern Fredericks, 9 Ben Finau, 10 Tim O'Malley, 11 Fletcher Matthews, 12 Alex Nankivell, 13 Rupena Parkinson, 14 Johnny Ika, 15 Andrew Knewstubb

              Reserves: Pelefoti Siaki, Eden Beech, Jack Best, Dan Hytongue, Willis Scott, Jack Grooby, James Hawkey, Tomas Aoake, Glen Bellam.

              Not considered due to injury: Brendan Asomua-Goodman, Isaac Salmon, Paripari Parkinson, Mike Curry, Ofa Folau, Braden Stewart, Isaiah Miller, Nick Foxley, Timoci Tavatavanawai, Sam Chamberlain, Trael Joass and Viliami Lolohea.

              I haven't seen a Counties line-up.

              http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/94112045/tasman-rugby-contracts-up-for-grabs-as-preseason-kicks-off-against-counties

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                #324

                Half time:

                Counties Manukau Cavaliers 14 (Tries: Matt Vaai, Gafa Su'a; Con (2): Luteru Laulala)
                Ta$man Buccaneers 28 (Tries: Tone Ng Shiu, Rupena Parkinson, Johnny Ika, Fletcher Matthews; Con (4): Tim O'Malley)

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                  Full time:

                  Counties Manukau Cavaliers 26 (Tries: Matt Vaai, Gafa Su'a, Feta Luamanu, Sepu Taufa; Con: Luteru Laulala (2), Jared Page)

                  Ta$man Buccaneers 49 (Tries: Pelefoti Siaki, Tomas Aoaki, Tom Hill, Tone Ng Shiu, Rupena Parkinson, Johnny Ika, Fletcher Matthews; Con: Tom O'Malley (6), James Hawkey)

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/94264738/otago-sign-italian-test-lock-josh-furno-for-upcoming-mitre-10-cup-campaign

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                    • DuluthD Offline
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                      I see Dan Bowden is playing 10 for Ponsonby. If he's over his injuries, he would be a decent stop gap until one of the younger flyhalfs is ready

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                        Are there more foreign imports into the Mitre 10 Cup this year, or does it just look that way because they get more publicity? I can't say I find it a good development. Surely there must be good NZ locks that Otago could have signed?

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          I see Dan Bowden is playing 10 for Ponsonby. If he's over his injuries, he would be a decent stop gap until one of the younger flyhalfs is ready

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                          @Duluth He's better than Hickey.

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                            http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/94210308/jason-emerys-recovery-ahead-of-schedule-return-for-turbos-in-2017-likely

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                              Ponsonby 10/12 Will Talataina-Mu (Blues dev) might be another candidate for Auckland 1st 5 this year.

                              Ponsonby comeback sinks University

                              It would be great to see some video coverage from that game.

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                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/94410876/nick-crosswell-returning-to-manawatu-after-stint-in-wales

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                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/94410876/nick-crosswell-returning-to-manawatu-after-stint-in-wales

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                                  @Tim geez how is he only 31!

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                                    There's more going on here than anyone is letting on...

                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/94454357/Southland-Stags-2016-standout-unlikely-to-line-up-in-2017

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                                      There's more going on here than anyone is letting on...

                                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/94454357/Southland-Stags-2016-standout-unlikely-to-line-up-in-2017

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                                      @Wurzel Well, if the reasons are personal, then that's all we are entitled to know, I reckon. I hope the media will leave the young lad alone.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        Are there more foreign imports into the Mitre 10 Cup this year, or does it just look that way because they get more publicity? I can't say I find it a good development. Surely there must be good NZ locks that Otago could have signed?

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                                        @Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                        Are there more foreign imports into the Mitre 10 Cup this year, or does it just look that way because they get more publicity? I can't say I find it a good development. Surely there must be good NZ locks that Otago could have signed?

                                        Hemopo was great v Lions , plus the young guy who made his debut as replacement v Lions was also good (Dickson).

                                        Are they Otago signed? As well as Highlanders?

                                        But in general I disagree with your point about foreigners. 14 teams, 2 starters plus a sub = 42 locks required each round by the 14 NPC teams.

                                        Add in the confusion of NH bound exodusers usually leaving at end of SR rather than end of NPC, there's plenty of holes to fill.

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                                        • RapidoR Rapido

                                          @Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                          Are there more foreign imports into the Mitre 10 Cup this year, or does it just look that way because they get more publicity? I can't say I find it a good development. Surely there must be good NZ locks that Otago could have signed?

                                          Hemopo was great v Lions , plus the young guy who made his debut as replacement v Lions was also good (Dickson).

                                          Are they Otago signed? As well as Highlanders?

                                          But in general I disagree with your point about foreigners. 14 teams, 2 starters plus a sub = 42 locks required each round by the 14 NPC teams.

                                          Add in the confusion of NH bound exodusers usually leaving at end of SR rather than end of NPC, there's plenty of holes to fill.

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                                          @Rapido Generally speaking, I agree with you that there may not be enough players in NZ for each position in every Mitre 10 Cup team and that that could be an excuse for signing a limited number of overseas' players. However, considering that the Otago squad is based in one of the (bigger) main centres, I assumed they would have enough local players to chose from. Quite possibly that assumption is wrong, because players don't stay in their own province anymore like they used to (although the main centres are also likely to attract more players from smaller provinces due to the presence of tertiary education institutions and better employment opportunities).

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