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    #173

    http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

    Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

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    • boobooB booboo

      http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

      Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

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      @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

      http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

      Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

      Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.

      https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html

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        @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

        http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

        Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

        Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.

        https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html

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        @akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

        @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

        http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

        Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

        Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.

        https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html

        I'm choosing to believe the Norwegians

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          @junior bollocks look at the footage. Farrell holds his ankle he then over runs because he thinks he has to go wide. Its standard play in the premiership holding players past the ruck.

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          @Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

          @junior bollocks look at the footage. Farrell holds his ankle he then over runs because he thinks he has to go wide. Its standard play in the premiership holding players past the ruck.

          Mate, I've seen the footage - I know he was held. But that's not the reason her overran the ball and allowed Murray to get inside him. If anything, being held would result in Murray getting outside him.

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            @Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

            @junior bollocks look at the footage. Farrell holds his ankle he then over runs because he thinks he has to go wide. Its standard play in the premiership holding players past the ruck.

            Mate, I've seen the footage - I know he was held. But that's not the reason her overran the ball and allowed Murray to get inside him. If anything, being held would result in Murray getting outside him.

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            @junior said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

            @Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

            @junior bollocks look at the footage. Farrell holds his ankle he then over runs because he thinks he has to go wide. Its standard play in the premiership holding players past the ruck.

            Mate, I've seen the footage - I know he was held. But that's not the reason her overran the ball and allowed Murray to get inside him. If anything, being held would result in Murray getting outside him.

            Now don't go using the laws of physics, this is no place for logic or facts.

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            • juniorJ junior

              @Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

              @junior bollocks look at the footage. Farrell holds his ankle he then over runs because he thinks he has to go wide. Its standard play in the premiership holding players past the ruck.

              Mate, I've seen the footage - I know he was held. But that's not the reason her overran the ball and allowed Murray to get inside him. If anything, being held would result in Murray getting outside him.

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              @junior said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

              @Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

              @junior bollocks look at the footage. Farrell holds his ankle he then over runs because he thinks he has to go wide. Its standard play in the premiership holding players past the ruck.

              Mate, I've seen the footage - I know he was held. But that's not the reason her overran the ball and allowed Murray to get inside him. If anything, being held would result in Murray getting outside him.

              The point I believe @Wreck-Diver is trying to make is that as a result of being held, rather than simply sliding into position, TJP now feels he has to bust a gut to get across and hence is more easily stepped.

              If Ardie hadn't been wrestling on the other side of the ruck he may have covered the gap.

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                Aaron Smith says this weekend has a RWC final feel about it already. We will shut them down in all areas Saturday night

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                  I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.

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                  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                    I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.

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                    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                    I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.

                    Weirdly I'm not confident.

                    51-49 in favour of the good guys.

                    Not used to uncertainty... 😞

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                      I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.

                      Weirdly I'm not confident.

                      51-49 in favour of the good guys.

                      Not used to uncertainty... 😞

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                      @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                      I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.

                      Weirdly I'm not confident.

                      51-49 in favour of the good guys.

                      Not used to uncertainty... 😞

                      They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @junior said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                        @Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                        @junior bollocks look at the footage. Farrell holds his ankle he then over runs because he thinks he has to go wide. Its standard play in the premiership holding players past the ruck.

                        Mate, I've seen the footage - I know he was held. But that's not the reason her overran the ball and allowed Murray to get inside him. If anything, being held would result in Murray getting outside him.

                        The point I believe @Wreck-Diver is trying to make is that as a result of being held, rather than simply sliding into position, TJP now feels he has to bust a gut to get across and hence is more easily stepped.

                        If Ardie hadn't been wrestling on the other side of the ruck he may have covered the gap.

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                        @antipodean all well and good - if not for the fact he didn't need to get across.

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                          @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                          http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

                          Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

                          Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.

                          https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html

                          I'm choosing to believe the Norwegians

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                          @booboo The damn Norwegians have changed their forecast to heavy rain. I know many will say that the rain shouldn't be a factor, but I believe it will be. It slows down our game, limits the width that we normally play with and brings their bigger but slower pack into the game more.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                            Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                            I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                            WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                            Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                            I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                            WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                            Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                            That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

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                            @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                            Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                            I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                            WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                            Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                            I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                            WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                            Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                            That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

                            Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                              @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                              I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.

                              Weirdly I'm not confident.

                              51-49 in favour of the good guys.

                              Not used to uncertainty... 😞

                              They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off

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                              @canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                              @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                              @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                              I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.

                              Weirdly I'm not confident.

                              51-49 in favour of the good guys.

                              Not used to uncertainty... 😞

                              They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off

                              There is such a fine line between genius and foolishness... I cant decide which one your post is. Well played.

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                              • mimicM mimic

                                @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                I know BOD is pasty white, but it's a bit harsh to call him daylight.

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                                @mimic said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                I know BOD is pasty white, but it's a bit harsh to call him daylight.

                                My bad. Further illustrates how far behind the best of the era Tana was though.

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                                • sharkS shark

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                  Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                  I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                  WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                  Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                  I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                  WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                  Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                  That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

                                  Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.

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                                  @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                  Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                  I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                  WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                  Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                  I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                  WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                  Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                  That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

                                  Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.

                                  I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                    although TBF, Goodhue wasn't named in the original squad was he, only there in the look and learn capacity I thought, and just kept there when Crotty injured himself, but still not 'called into the squad'

                                    They named a squad for the Lions tour and they named an injury cover list: midfielder Jack Goodhue, hooker Liam Coltman and loose forwards Matt Todd, Vaea Fifita and Akira Ioane. Goodhue was there as injury cover for Ryan Crotty, who was at the time of the team naming not yet 100%. The fact that they didn't use him for the second test after Crotty had pulled his hamstring was because there were already 4 midfielders in the squad.

                                    Now, with SBW ruled out, there are only 3 remaining midfielders in the squad. So they call in Fekitoa. That can IMO mean a few things.

                                    • They realise that despite Goodhue's potential (which seems bigger than Fekitoa's), they need experience at this stage, and that's what Fekitoa offers (either as a starter or from the bench).
                                    • It can also mean that they see Goodhue only (at this stage) as a cover for 13 and not 12. SBW only plays 12 (not 13), so that's what they've looked to replace (either by moving ALB or by starting Laumape or Fekitoa). Fekitoa is better at 13, but he can cover both.
                                    • Or the injury cover list was just an excuse to bring together a larger squad and Goodhue (and Akira) were indeed (and in the first place) included to "look and learn". I seriously doubt this, because they could also have included these players openly as apprentices, as they have done in the past.
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                                    @Stargazer some comments in the media that Laumape was found out on defence...so it could be that they don't see him as starter. Would take a bit of a review to work that out.

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                                      Considering the Lions have been tearing us up out wide i hope it fucking pours down

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                        Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                        I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                        WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                        Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                        I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                        WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                        Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                        That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

                                        Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.

                                        I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.

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                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                        Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                        I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                        WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                        Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                        I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                        WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                        Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                        That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

                                        Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.

                                        I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.

                                        Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.

                                        Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.

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                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                          Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                          I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                          WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                          Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                          I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                          WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                          Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                          That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

                                          Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.

                                          I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.

                                          Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.

                                          Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.

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                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                          Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                          I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                          WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!

                                          Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.

                                          I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.

                                          WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.

                                          Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.

                                          That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.

                                          Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.

                                          I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.

                                          Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.

                                          The counter to that comment is Reuben Thorne or Todd Blackadder

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