All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
They've bottled that.
Made a big conviction selection in Ioane, then at smallest hurdle in the most adverse of circumstances drop him completely. On a smaller scale they have also done this with Naholo.
Cruden rendered us rudderless for the final 20 minutes and was a turnover machine - yet somehow is retained over Sopoaga?
If he was retained simply to play his 50th test that is a very poor reason.
Still may win, but somehow with five franchises full of firepower we've selected a bench that will stall our backline rather than up the ante.
They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.
Ultimately the winning and losing will be done from the 10 jersey on down. So it's hardly panic stations and I'm confident the ABs will win the breakdown and tackle.
Purely in regards to Hansen's selections, it's been pretty poor planning. He released Savea and Barrett to the Canes because Hansen said they weren't in the frame to play the Lions going forward and wanted them to get a chance (while patting himself on the back after Ioane's selection). Then somehow after one of the stranger tests in recent times Hansen has done a complete U-turn on everything.
Pretty harsh on those guys.
Does Joride kick? Not ideal in your first start, but perhaps that is part of the story?
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Not too sure about Jordie Barret - I'm not quite on the band wagon yet he has done some good stuff at super level but so has McKenzie. His defense is bloody suspect as well. Only change I would have made was Julian Savea.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.
Ultimately the winning and losing will be done from the 10 jersey on down. So it's hardly panic stations and I'm confident the ABs will win the breakdown and tackle.
Purely in regards to Hansen's selections, it's been pretty poor planning. He released Savea and Barrett to the Canes because Hansen said they weren't in the frame to play the Lions going forward and wanted them to get a chance (while patting himself on the back after Ioane's selection). Then somehow after one of the stranger tests in recent times Hansen has done a complete U-turn on everything.
Pretty harsh on those guys.
Does Joride kick? Not ideal in your first start, but perhaps that is part of the story?
@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.
Ultimately the winning and losing will be done from the 10 jersey on down. So it's hardly panic stations and I'm confident the ABs will win the breakdown and tackle.
Purely in regards to Hansen's selections, it's been pretty poor planning. He released Savea and Barrett to the Canes because Hansen said they weren't in the frame to play the Lions going forward and wanted them to get a chance (while patting himself on the back after Ioane's selection). Then somehow after one of the stranger tests in recent times Hansen has done a complete U-turn on everything.
Pretty harsh on those guys.
Does Joride kick? Not ideal in your first start, but perhaps that is part of the story?
I think the issue with Ioane is his work rate - when the forwards were a man down a bit of help from one of the wingers carting the ball up would have been good.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.
Ultimately the winning and losing will be done from the 10 jersey on down. So it's hardly panic stations and I'm confident the ABs will win the breakdown and tackle.
Purely in regards to Hansen's selections, it's been pretty poor planning. He released Savea and Barrett to the Canes because Hansen said they weren't in the frame to play the Lions going forward and wanted them to get a chance (while patting himself on the back after Ioane's selection). Then somehow after one of the stranger tests in recent times Hansen has done a complete U-turn on everything.
Pretty harsh on those guys.
Does Joride kick? Not ideal in your first start, but perhaps that is part of the story?
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Not too sure about Jordie Barret - I'm not quite on the band wagon yet he has done some good stuff at super level but so has McKenzie. His defense is bloody suspect as well. Only change I would have made was Julian Savea.
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@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.
Ultimately the winning and losing will be done from the 10 jersey on down. So it's hardly panic stations and I'm confident the ABs will win the breakdown and tackle.
Purely in regards to Hansen's selections, it's been pretty poor planning. He released Savea and Barrett to the Canes because Hansen said they weren't in the frame to play the Lions going forward and wanted them to get a chance (while patting himself on the back after Ioane's selection). Then somehow after one of the stranger tests in recent times Hansen has done a complete U-turn on everything.
Pretty harsh on those guys.
Does Joride kick? Not ideal in your first start, but perhaps that is part of the story?
I think the issue with Ioane is his work rate - when the forwards were a man down a bit of help from one of the wingers carting the ball up would have been good.
@Gary said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.
Ultimately the winning and losing will be done from the 10 jersey on down. So it's hardly panic stations and I'm confident the ABs will win the breakdown and tackle.
Purely in regards to Hansen's selections, it's been pretty poor planning. He released Savea and Barrett to the Canes because Hansen said they weren't in the frame to play the Lions going forward and wanted them to get a chance (while patting himself on the back after Ioane's selection). Then somehow after one of the stranger tests in recent times Hansen has done a complete U-turn on everything.
Pretty harsh on those guys.
Does Joride kick? Not ideal in your first start, but perhaps that is part of the story?
I think the issue with Ioane is his work rate - when the forwards were a man down a bit of help from one of the wingers carting the ball up would have been good.
I know all these guys are hardened pros and all that, but a young guy making his debut in that cauldron, maybe a bit more on field guidance wouldn't have gone amiss? I think he's been very hard done by.
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Biggest shock reading the team sheet was B Barrett has 52 caps.
He'll piss 100
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Biggest shock reading the team sheet was B Barrett has 52 caps.
He'll piss 100
He ought to but in 2003 you would have said the same about a certain Mr J Wilkinson who "stalled" at 91 for England. Nearly four years out with injury screwed that idea.
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@rotated Jordie is a better goal kicker than Boden
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@rotated Jordie is a better goal kicker than Boden
Neither is a natural and do you want to bog down Jordie with that duty on what is essentially his debut?
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I probably wouldve started Fekitoa to add some starch in defense , but .... ive coached no one I guess ,
Trust in shag
The jordie and Laumape selections do make me feel a little nervous
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No change to the BIL starting XV
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No change to the BIL starting XV
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
No change to the BIL starting XV
Or their bench.
Fuck that'd be nice.
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One our greenest back lines for a long time?
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@Gary I disagree on JB defence for the Canes he has been very good. Better than Dagg
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Gary I disagree on JB defence for the Canes he has been very good. Better than Dagg
What? 59% tackle success is very good? Ummmm....
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Sh*t, you win, well done, what was that, like 2 seconds?
I edited out my Black Ferns team
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A golden opportunity for the lions really ,
1-1 , ABs with a slightly disjointed looking side ,a french ref who they relate to better than us ,
still picking us to win, but not with alot of confidence , i think they go into this game in far better shape than we may have thought earlier
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To put a positive spin on the selections it is a bold move by Hansen and co, and they are hoping for some Canes magic. The result will determine if they are champs or chumps.
So we have a different midfield and back three in each test - I can't remember the last time that occurred, even allowing for the injuries.
