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2007 QF [split thread]

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    McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

    If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

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      McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

      If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

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      @rotated said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

      McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

      If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

      Carter? In the 2011 Final??

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @rotated said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

        McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

        If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

        Carter? In the 2011 Final??

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        @Hooroo yea, he did fuck all. hopeless

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @rotated said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

          McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

          If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

          Carter? In the 2011 Final??

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          @Hooroo said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

          @rotated said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

          McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

          If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

          Carter? In the 2011 Final??

          Wow, completely forgot about that injury and I was at the game. Not going to live that one down.

          Well I don't think many would argue that if Ma'a Nonu has the best rugby IQ in your 9-10-12 axis you are in trouble.

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          • rotatedR rotated

            McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

            If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

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            @rotated said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

            McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

            If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

            Lu cky was excellent in first 35. But not a good man in the crunch. Byron and Lucky didn't contribute much of the 120. You need a good brain there to execute. IMO AM and Conrad were both guys who picked good options and who made the athletes around them (Lucky and Nonu, for example) much more deadly.

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            • rotatedR rotated

              @Hooroo said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

              @rotated said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

              McAlister not unlike Spencer in 2003 actually had the temerity to set up a brilliant try under tremendous pressure and was probably the best back on the field. This doesn't stop the anti-Blues crowd from banging the drum for both though...

              If our 9-10-12 had an IQ of 120 for the second half - I'd hate to see your assessment of Ellis-Carter-Nonu who manufactured nothing in the 2011 final.

              Carter? In the 2011 Final??

              Wow, completely forgot about that injury and I was at the game. Not going to live that one down.

              Well I don't think many would argue that if Ma'a Nonu has the best rugby IQ in your 9-10-12 axis you are in trouble.

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              @rotated 2011 was all Dagg's fault anyway.

              And i blame Leon MacDonald for 2003 and 2007...

              People try to blame Goldie for '99, but I won't hear a bad word against him, so i blame Hart.

              '95 was a collective stitch up, from politics to bookies. Can't blame anyone except external nefarious entities.

              '91 was also Hart's fault...

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                It's off topic. Again.

                But anyhow, why not just agree that neither toeava nor Guildford were up to much at AB level.

                Every time I see a possum in the headlights, I think Toeva + 2007.

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                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                It's off topic. Again.

                But anyhow, why not just agree that neither toeava nor Guildford were up to much at AB level.

                Every time I see a possum in the headlights, I think Toeva + 2007.

                Sorry but I call Bullshit on that. Guilford yes but no way can you say that about Toeava!

                Toeava was very much up to AB Level. Sure in some of his early matches he was a little overawed but he grew into it and was certainly a worthy AB. Anyone who wins a man of the match award and came close on other occasions doesn't deserve such criticism.

                Cut down in his prime by a chronic hip injury which really hampered his RWC 2011 campaign.

                FYI... He was playing very well in France for Claremont before a season ending injury earlier this year.

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                • RoninWCR RoninWC

                  @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                  It's off topic. Again.

                  But anyhow, why not just agree that neither toeava nor Guildford were up to much at AB level.

                  Every time I see a possum in the headlights, I think Toeva + 2007.

                  Sorry but I call Bullshit on that. Guilford yes but no way can you say that about Toeava!

                  Toeava was very much up to AB Level. Sure in some of his early matches he was a little overawed but he grew into it and was certainly a worthy AB. Anyone who wins a man of the match award and came close on other occasions doesn't deserve such criticism.

                  Cut down in his prime by a chronic hip injury which really hampered his RWC 2011 campaign.

                  FYI... He was playing very well in France for Claremont before a season ending injury earlier this year.

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                  @RoninWC I'm not even sure you can say it about Guildford. We all know that his mental health issues and resulting addictions are to blame for his disappearance from test and Super Rugby. There's simply no way of knowing how he would have developed as a test player without all those problems.

                  Toeava indeed had some classy appearances for Clermont this year. I hope his next season for the club will be injury free, so he can get a real chance to show his talent and skills. He played mostly at fullback for them though, but may appear in the midfield more often this new season due to some other midfielders (Including Benson Stanley) leaving.

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                    Shit's getting real when we're dredging up these games to extend the fighting over.

                    Fucking fullbacks playing at centre! How many RWC's did it take coaches of the All Blacks - no less - to learn that lesson the 98th time?

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                      I'm just glad this game is FINALLY getting some attention on TSF.

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                      • barbarianB barbarian

                        I'm just glad this game is FINALLY getting some attention on TSF.

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                        @barbarian 23 posts and no mention of #Wayne Barnes or #forwardpass

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @barbarian 23 posts and no mention of #Wayne Barnes or #forwardpass

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                          @taniwharugby i think we should discuss with @barbarian the real turning point of 2003, St George Smith cynically and sickeningly hitting Justin Marshall late, and taking him out of the game. Filthy cheaty convicts

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @taniwharugby i think we should discuss with @barbarian the real turning point of 2003, St George Smith cynically and sickeningly hitting Justin Marshall late, and taking him out of the game. Filthy cheaty convicts

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                            @mariner4life

                            I thought the turning point was a legit try being called a knock on just before that intercept

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                              @mariner4life

                              I thought the turning point was a legit try being called a knock on just before that intercept

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                              @Duluth fucking cheating fuckers so desperate for a NH champion they engineered getting a team in the final they knew couldn't beat England. That it was also the home team was just gravy for the IRB.

                              And it still nearly backfired.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                what is this game you all speak of with such great knowledge?

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                                @taniwharugby said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                what is this game you all speak of with such great knowledge?

                                Hi all

                                (I'm probably going to regret this, but it's late and I'm a bit drunk and the AB-Lions series is 1-1, so no time like the present ...)

                                I was at the '99 game and the '07 game (as I dared to mention in my first post a month ago). Sport is a weird thing at times - there have been other tours since '71 that the Lions had a good chance of winning; maybe this is going to be one of those weird times.

                                If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                I watched the game last weekend in a pub in England - there were 2 Kiwis with AB shirts. I said to them at the end "You'll win next week".

                                But as the week has gone on, the euphoric optimism of sport has made me think it is a 60/40 game in favour of the ABs.
                                But that is close in a contact sport with an odd-shaped ball.
                                Maybe, just maybe ...

                                Yet another AB centre pairing ...
                                A French ref ...
                                A winner-takes-all game between 2 closely-matched teams (forget your opinion: the series is 1-1) - that is a scenario more familiar to NH teams,

                                What was unthinkable 1 year ago, 1 month ago - it might just happen.

                                2 sleeps to go. 12 years to wait for redemption.

                                Enjoy!

                                Cheers
                                Megweya

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                                  @taniwharugby said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                  what is this game you all speak of with such great knowledge?

                                  Hi all

                                  (I'm probably going to regret this, but it's late and I'm a bit drunk and the AB-Lions series is 1-1, so no time like the present ...)

                                  I was at the '99 game and the '07 game (as I dared to mention in my first post a month ago). Sport is a weird thing at times - there have been other tours since '71 that the Lions had a good chance of winning; maybe this is going to be one of those weird times.

                                  If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                  I watched the game last weekend in a pub in England - there were 2 Kiwis with AB shirts. I said to them at the end "You'll win next week".

                                  But as the week has gone on, the euphoric optimism of sport has made me think it is a 60/40 game in favour of the ABs.
                                  But that is close in a contact sport with an odd-shaped ball.
                                  Maybe, just maybe ...

                                  Yet another AB centre pairing ...
                                  A French ref ...
                                  A winner-takes-all game between 2 closely-matched teams (forget your opinion: the series is 1-1) - that is a scenario more familiar to NH teams,

                                  What was unthinkable 1 year ago, 1 month ago - it might just happen.

                                  2 sleeps to go. 12 years to wait for redemption.

                                  Enjoy!

                                  Cheers
                                  Megweya

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                                  @Megweya said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                  If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                  ah, beautiful. A choke joke. It's been a while my old friend.

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                                  • M Megweya

                                    @taniwharugby said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                    what is this game you all speak of with such great knowledge?

                                    Hi all

                                    (I'm probably going to regret this, but it's late and I'm a bit drunk and the AB-Lions series is 1-1, so no time like the present ...)

                                    I was at the '99 game and the '07 game (as I dared to mention in my first post a month ago). Sport is a weird thing at times - there have been other tours since '71 that the Lions had a good chance of winning; maybe this is going to be one of those weird times.

                                    If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                    I watched the game last weekend in a pub in England - there were 2 Kiwis with AB shirts. I said to them at the end "You'll win next week".

                                    But as the week has gone on, the euphoric optimism of sport has made me think it is a 60/40 game in favour of the ABs.
                                    But that is close in a contact sport with an odd-shaped ball.
                                    Maybe, just maybe ...

                                    Yet another AB centre pairing ...
                                    A French ref ...
                                    A winner-takes-all game between 2 closely-matched teams (forget your opinion: the series is 1-1) - that is a scenario more familiar to NH teams,

                                    What was unthinkable 1 year ago, 1 month ago - it might just happen.

                                    2 sleeps to go. 12 years to wait for redemption.

                                    Enjoy!

                                    Cheers
                                    Megweya

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                                    @Megweya I hope it was you I spilled my beer on at Twickers in 99 😉

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Megweya said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                      If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                      ah, beautiful. A choke joke. It's been a while my old friend.

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                                      @mariner4life said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                      @Megweya said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                      If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                      ah, beautiful. A choke joke. It's been a while my old friend.

                                      I thought you had to win two World Cups in a row to be rid of that tag?

                                      South African Cricket team has some 'work-ons'

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Megweya said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                        If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                        ah, beautiful. A choke joke. It's been a while my old friend.

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                                        @mariner4life said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                        @Megweya said in 2007 QF [split thread]:

                                        If if the Lions are within 4-8 points at 60 minutes, maybe there might be a certain type of throat noise ...?

                                        ah, beautiful. A choke joke. It's been a while my old friend.

                                        After 2015 I thought we renamed it "doing a Lancaster"?

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                                          The only good thing that came out of the QF (Spits words out) was finding this place and the fellow tragics that exist here. I don't think I would have made it otherwise 😉

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