All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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@Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
ALB is having a tough 2nd season. Mediocre this year.
MotM vs Samoa, good last week and has had to deal with different combinations. Didn't see much of him on attack this series but I think his positional play on defence is very good.
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I'm slowly getting there (medicating)
What a lovely (truly) month we've had in comaraderie and mutual respect (and abusing) the Lions TSFers !!
Pot, Mike, Cato, Simon et al - what a great ride we've had
appreciate your virtual travel and cultural assimilation and supposing the head clears in the morning perhaps...rugby has been the winner
Respect NH chaps - good fluffybunnies, ebven if laboured with supportiung a bunch of yellers
hard bastards though, for sure@Siam said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I'm slowly getting there (medicating)
What a lovely (truly) month we've had in comaraderie and mutual respect (and abusing) the Lions TSFers !!
Pot, Mike, Cato, Simon et al - what a great ride we've had
appreciate your virtual travel and cultural assimilation and supposing the head clears in the morning perhaps...rugby has been the winner
Respect NH chaps - good fluffybunnies, ebven if laboured with supportiung a bunch of yellers
hard bastards though, for sureWell said
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@hydro11 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
ALB is having a tough 2nd season. Mediocre this year.
MotM vs Samoa, good last week and has had to deal with different combinations. Didn't see much of him on attack this series but I think his positional play on defence is very good.
What? He's been all at sea in defence at times throughout the series. I think he's had a very mixed bag as most of the backs have had.
Looks to have bulked and not as quick.
@ACT-Crusader Indeed, his defence has been poor all season. His execution has been lacking, which is not surprising for a young player in their second international season. Opposition has studied him, and he's under more pressure now.
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It would've been great to have had Luatua out there in the last 30 minutes - speed, power, and an effective offloading game. Could've broken up the Lions' defence, which would've been crucial. He was brilliant at that when he played against the Lions.
Steve Hansen wouldn't select him, even though the Lions series is apparently the ultimate in rugby. Arrogant selections cost him last year too - he's the only NZ coach to have lost to Ireland. That sort of hubris and arrogance hasn't been seen since John Mitchell.
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Well, that was pretty exciting and given that I hate losing far more than I like winning, I'm remarkably sanguine about the result.
I think some of you guys are being pretty harsh on the execution. The Lions defence was extremely good - no weak links - and I think the ABs decided they needed some pieces of magic to score. Maybe a lack of patience at times, but the two tries we scored both had a fair degree of magic to them - especially the second one. Taking pop passes into a close defensive line and getting smashed isn't the best way of retaining the ball - but, it's also a good way of breaking the line. On another night we could have scored four or five tries - we certainly created opportunities - especially in the first half.
I haven't really seen a massive decline in Hansen's coaching - we just came up against a team chock full of talented players and with the depth to match and possibly better the advantage we usually get from the subs bench - particularly once we lost a few players.
On the final penalty, I guess Poite will give a Gallic shrug and say something like "Il n’est pas la bonne décision, mais c’est la belle décision."
Which means, "It is not the right decision, but it is the beautiful decision." At least that's what I typed into Babelfish to get that result!
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Well, that was pretty exciting and given that I hate losing far more than I like winning, I'm remarkably sanguine about the result.
I think some of you guys are being pretty harsh on the execution. The Lions defence was extremely good - no weak links - and I think the ABs decided they needed some pieces of magic to score. Maybe a lack of patience at times, but the two tries we scored both had a fair degree of magic to them - especially the second one. Taking pop passes into a close defensive line and getting smashed isn't the best way of retaining the ball - but, it's also a good way of breaking the line. On another night we could have scored four or five tries - we certainly created opportunities - especially in the first half.
I haven't really seen a massive decline in Hansen's coaching - we just came up against a team chock full of talented players and with the depth to match and possibly better the advantage we usually get from the subs bench - particularly once we lost a few players.
On the final penalty, I guess Poite will give a Gallic shrug and say something like "Il n’est pas la bonne décision, mais c’est la belle décision."
Which means, "It is not the right decision, but it is the beautiful decision." At least that's what I typed into Babelfish to get that result!
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It would've been great to have had Luatua out there in the last 30 minutes - speed, power, and an effective offloading game. Could've broken up the Lions' defence, which would've been crucial. He was brilliant at that when he played against the Lions.
Steve Hansen wouldn't select him, even though the Lions series is apparently the ultimate in rugby. Arrogant selections cost him last year too - he's the only NZ coach to have lost to Ireland. That sort of hubris and arrogance hasn't been seen since John Mitchell.
@Tim c'mon mate, you're bordering on trolling.
We know your love for Blues players, but you may have gone overboard on that assessment of Hansen.Hansens loyalty has to be earned, and Luatua did himself zero favours a couple years back turning up unfit as he did
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Winning the 2015 world cup has made people very soft.
We played like garbage in this series. We lost to Ireland last year, and were lucky that Australia and South Africa were so bad.
If you don't get upset about drawing a three match series at home then there's something wrong with you.
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On the final non-penalty.
I watched that in a bar, with poor sound, assuming it was for obstruction. Then giy in urinal after match is talked by about accidental offside? I deferred to him assuming he could hear the audio ....Yeah, well .,.,, rugby huh
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@Tim c'mon mate, you're bordering on trolling.
We know your love for Blues players, but you may have gone overboard on that assessment of Hansen.Hansens loyalty has to be earned, and Luatua did himself zero favours a couple years back turning up unfit as he did
@Gunner He's contracted to the NZRU so play him. Other players are buggering off and Hansen doesn't take the time to criticise them personally in the media.
The non-selection was arrogant, and the team is performing poorly. You use your best players, you don't pretend you're too good for them and lose at home.
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Someone needs to send that Poite dialogue to Cheika and the Scots, a decision like that was missing in the WC quarter final....
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Could be an interesting season with a few more twists and turns yet ,
Havent seen them myself, but all reports are saying the Boks are turning the corner ,and starting to look the real deal
England at twickers later on -
Well, that was pretty exciting and given that I hate losing far more than I like winning, I'm remarkably sanguine about the result.
I think some of you guys are being pretty harsh on the execution. The Lions defence was extremely good - no weak links - and I think the ABs decided they needed some pieces of magic to score. Maybe a lack of patience at times, but the two tries we scored both had a fair degree of magic to them - especially the second one. Taking pop passes into a close defensive line and getting smashed isn't the best way of retaining the ball - but, it's also a good way of breaking the line. On another night we could have scored four or five tries - we certainly created opportunities - especially in the first half.
I haven't really seen a massive decline in Hansen's coaching - we just came up against a team chock full of talented players and with the depth to match and possibly better the advantage we usually get from the subs bench - particularly once we lost a few players.
On the final penalty, I guess Poite will give a Gallic shrug and say something like "Il n’est pas la bonne décision, mais c’est la belle décision."
Which means, "It is not the right decision, but it is the beautiful decision." At least that's what I typed into Babelfish to get that result!
@Chris-B. Agree that the ABs had to try passes under pressure to try and create space. So a few mistakes understandable.
You have to feel we played more rugby this time and deserved victory. That Poite changed his mind under pressure and got a simple decision wrong was disappointing. Sometimes you need luck or balance and we probably ended up on the wrong side of the ledger.
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Could be an interesting season with a few more twists and turns yet ,
Havent seen them myself, but all reports are saying the Boks are turning the corner ,and starting to look the real deal
England at twickers later on@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Could be an interesting season with a few more twists and turns yet ,
Havent seen them myself, but all reports are saying the Boks are turning the corner ,and starting to look the real deal
England at twickers later onEngland isn't until next year.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Could be an interesting season with a few more twists and turns yet ,
Havent seen them myself, but all reports are saying the Boks are turning the corner ,and starting to look the real deal
England at twickers later onEngland isn't until next year.
@Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Could be an interesting season with a few more twists and turns yet ,
Havent seen them myself, but all reports are saying the Boks are turning the corner ,and starting to look the real deal
England at twickers later onEngland isn't until next year.
ok
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Could be an interesting season with a few more twists and turns yet ,
Havent seen them myself, but all reports are saying the Boks are turning the corner ,and starting to look the real deal
England at twickers later on@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
England at twickers later on
Fuck England. Fluffybunnies. We'll smoke 'em!
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Perenara was poor, again tonight. He's obviously got talent but far too often is found wanting when the pressure is on.
The concern is that we don't really have someone knocking on the door underneath Smith and him. I would've kept Smith for the 80 tonight.
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I am pretty drunk and angry so take this with a grain of salt:
I thought in the last few minutes of the test Poite was pretty terrible.
He made a decision about a penalty for offside, which for some reason he decided not to play advantage for.
He then decided to refer the PK upstairs, which he had basis in law to do so.
He then saw that the PK was correct (even if harsh) but he felt bad about it because it was marginal and felt because it would decide the series he reversed his decision and awarded a scrum instead.
It was a clear penalty. He just bottled it due to a lack of balls.
I think we had plenty of chances to win in the first half, but even so; I'm pretty miffed about it.
Perhaps when I've sobered up I might have a different view.
