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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

    http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

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      for all those muppets saying Jordie shoulda been kicking in the test...oh wait, he's right footed isnt he?

      https://twitter.com/avan_rugby/status/887921433208250369

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        I was relayed an anecdote from an old timer involved in the Lincoln Uni club who was cleaning up after practice one Tuesday and saw Jordie Barrett stay behind, banging over leftfooted droppies from the sideline, 50 metres out.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

          http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

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          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

          Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

          http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

          I've never understood this.

          If the players felt their bodies needed a rest, they wouldn't sign these lucrative off season contracts.

          They are adults who are capable of making grown up decisions. They know their clock is ticking and all of them who choose to play more are doing so out of their own free will.

          my 2c

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          • PNP PN

            @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

            Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

            http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

            I've never understood this.

            If the players felt their bodies needed a rest, they wouldn't sign these lucrative off season contracts.

            They are adults who are capable of making grown up decisions. They know their clock is ticking and all of them who choose to play more are doing so out of their own free will.

            my 2c

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            @PN Playing in Japan, is only an off-season thing for players of NZ, SA or Aussie franchises. For Japanese players, this is their domestic competition! No doubt there are Ferners who can explain this better. A lot of the Sunwolves' players are selected and signed from Top League clubs.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @PN Playing in Japan, is only an off-season thing for players of NZ, SA or Aussie franchises. For Japanese players, this is their domestic competition! No doubt there are Ferners who can explain this better. A lot of the Sunwolves' players are selected and signed from Top League clubs.

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              @Stargazer

              It's one reason why the SWs can't really run out a great team - there is a lot more talent there either not allowed or not willing to take on Super rugby - these guys get their salaries from the companies, and like pretty much all Japanese, are at their mercy.

              Personally, I think the SWs would have been much stronger if they had just promoted one team (Panasonic, Suntory, or Toshiba). That sounds mad but I think those teams would roll over the SWs.

              In good news those, it seems like the SWs are going to get a better shake in the next year or so (or so I was told by a friend who is much more into JP footy than I).

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              • StargazerS Offline
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                Waisake Naholo has re-signed with the Highlanders for another year. Yes, one year!

                http://twitter.com/Highlanders/status/888242541677518848

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                  Wise man. Obviously he got my warning about the 2018 Chiefs.

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                  • StargazerS Offline
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                    Just heard on Post-Match after Crusaders v Highlanders:
                    there is a strong rumour going around that Gareth Evens has signed with the Hurricanes! Replacing Callum Gibbins?

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                      There were three yellow cards I saw on the weekend from head/arm/shoulder contacts
                      I'm of the opinion that all 3 could have been a penalty and a reminder/warning to be careful. Probably not in this day and age

                      However theses were very close to the "accidental, yet willing, contact" side of things.

                      Call them yellow? So be it

                      But it risks heading down a rabbit hole where any body vs head contact can conceivably result in 14 v 15 for 10 minutes.

                      There could (should?) be a lot of them - not so good

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                        This is worthy of it's own thread. I'd add that a lot of issues are cropping up in double tackles.
                        In single tackles a trailing arm/leading shoulder is an indicator of reckless/foul play, quite reasonably in my view.
                        However, in double tackles it is quite usual for at least one tackler's arm to be impeded by the other tackler, resulting in leading shoulder.
                        Jack O'Piper quite naturally did not feel that Cane tackle in Stormers match was reckless or malicious. But TMO (no doubt correctly) cited the arbitrary protocols, which mandate yellow in such cases.
                        Kaino suffered in a similar way, although S O'B after four hours of discussion was ruled accidental.
                        Urgent protocol revision, please.

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                          This is worthy of it's own thread. I'd add that a lot of issues are cropping up in double tackles.
                          In single tackles a trailing arm/leading shoulder is an indicator of reckless/foul play, quite reasonably in my view.
                          However, in double tackles it is quite usual for at least one tackler's arm to be impeded by the other tackler, resulting in leading shoulder.
                          Jack O'Piper quite naturally did not feel that Cane tackle in Stormers match was reckless or malicious. But TMO (no doubt correctly) cited the arbitrary protocols, which mandate yellow in such cases.
                          Kaino suffered in a similar way, although S O'B after four hours of discussion was ruled accidental.
                          Urgent protocol revision, please.

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                          @pakman @Siam - a lot of people have raised the idea of some sort of penalty between "free-kick penalty" and "yellow card" - to be used in these cases where it's clearly accidental head contact, not really reckless - but avoidable.
                          Perhaps a 5-minute yellow?

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                            Good boys! Loyalty right here

                            Particularly stoked about funnel, he's an excellent back up to Taylor

                            https://crusaders.co.nz/news/1134-front-row-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

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                              @SammyC That media release also answers a question someone asked a while ago about Jager's eligibility. The media release says that he's been here since (early) 2014, so that means he's now NZ eligible.

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                                Good boys! Loyalty right here

                                Particularly stoked about funnel, he's an excellent back up to Taylor

                                https://crusaders.co.nz/news/1134-front-row-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

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                                @SammyC I do enjoy the irony of an overseas player being loyal to a new club πŸ™‚

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                                  @SammyC I do enjoy the irony of an overseas player being loyal to a new club πŸ™‚

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                                  @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

                                  @SammyC I do enjoy the irony of an overseas player being loyal to a new club πŸ™‚

                                  Don't you support the highlanders? How many of them are from Otago? πŸ™‚

                                  Was talking about the other 2 anyway.. both have been here a few years now and you would understand if they looked for a starting opportunity elsewhere.

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                                  • SammyCS SammyC

                                    @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

                                    @SammyC I do enjoy the irony of an overseas player being loyal to a new club πŸ™‚

                                    Don't you support the highlanders? How many of them are from Otago? πŸ™‚

                                    Was talking about the other 2 anyway.. both have been here a few years now and you would understand if they looked for a starting opportunity elsewhere.

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                                    @SammyC said in Super Rugby News:

                                    Don't you support the highlanders?

                                    πŸ˜†

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                                    • SammyCS SammyC

                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

                                      @SammyC I do enjoy the irony of an overseas player being loyal to a new club πŸ™‚

                                      Don't you support the highlanders? How many of them are from Otago? πŸ™‚

                                      Was talking about the other 2 anyway.. both have been here a few years now and you would understand if they looked for a starting opportunity elsewhere.

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                                      @SammyC Hah, I'm not quite sure what who I support has to do with it! Nor where they're from....besides I started supporting when they were the Hurrilanders πŸ™‚

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @SammyC said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Don't you support the highlanders?

                                        πŸ˜†

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                                        @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                                        @SammyC said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Don't you support the highlanders?

                                        πŸ˜†

                                        Pipe down over there in the North Harbour All Blacks supporters club.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @SammyC said in Super Rugby News:

                                          Don't you support the highlanders?

                                          πŸ˜†

                                          Pipe down over there in the North Harbour All Blacks supporters club.

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                                          @Bones Bryn Gatland 2018. Write it in your diary.

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