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Stadium of Canterbury

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  • HoorooH Hooroo

    @Rapido Could it be that they have already spent the insurance money received from Lancaster Park?

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    @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Rapido Could it be that they have already spent the insurance money received from Lancaster Park?

    Not that I'm aware of - full and final insurance settlement was only made in the past financial year.

    I don't believe CAVE has a majority by any stretch, but they're noisy and active. I've been following local politics more than usual this year because I've been involved in a campaign, and the councillor involved has no doubt from streetcorner meetings etc that the silent majority is in favour of big projects, as long as the streets and other repairs are still happening at a good pace. As noted, the funds come from different places than the funds for repairs, and we wouldn't get them without the anchor projects because the government won't pay otherwise, but it's very hard to convince some people of that.

    @taniwharugby - very true, and yet, we were considered overinsured by the above idiots before the earthquakes. People have underestimated the increased costs post-disaster, and also that insurers won't pay out without a lot of prodding, and you won't get the full amount and will have to negotiate as well.

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      @Godder CAVE? Canterbury Anti Vaccination Entourage??

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @Godder CAVE? Canterbury Anti Vaccination Entourage??

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        @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @Godder CAVE? Canterbury Anti Vaccination Entourage??

        Citizens Against Virtually Everything...

        Also, Nimby we know, but NOTE is Not Over There Either...

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          Just wondering what the status of this is? Is everything with the stadium still on hold? I guess there are still plenty of rebuild items that are higher in priority.

          Would be keen to hear any updates anyone has.

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            http://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/92719610/canterbury-rugby-will-not-pay-to-help-build-a-stadium-in-christchurch

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              http://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/92719610/canterbury-rugby-will-not-pay-to-help-build-a-stadium-in-christchurch

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              @Godder thanks.

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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/95256640/crusaders-boss-hamish-riach-believes-fans-have-had-enough-of-stadium

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                  A quicker fix would be to demand that nz finals are afternoon matches. Then get sky to work around that.

                  It's not so much the weather as the time of night that puts spectators off

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                    They should just play them all at the new national stadium in Auckland.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/95256640/crusaders-boss-hamish-riach-believes-fans-have-had-enough-of-stadium

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                      @Duluth knowing better, I still looked at the whining about rugby or publicly funding a stadium in the comments section.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @Duluth knowing better, I still looked at the whining about rugby or publicly funding a stadium in the comments section.

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                        @antipodean

                        It reminds me of all the whining in the ODT when the Dunedin stadium was first proposed.

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                        • WallyW Wally

                          @antipodean

                          It reminds me of all the whining in the ODT when the Dunedin stadium was first proposed.

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                          @Wally nation of whiners...well a small number whine very loud.

                          People moaned about the Stadium upgrade here, has been and continues to be a great facility for us and has attracted multiple events that would never have come otherwise, people moan about something else now.

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                            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11909195

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                              Is 30000, including temp seating, big enough for the major tests? What is the capacity in Wellington?

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                                Is 30000, including temp seating, big enough for the major tests? What is the capacity in Wellington?

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                                @Crazy-Horse There's a Bledisloe this weekend in Dunedin which is 30k. I think it could be tight for a Lions test though.

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                                  @Crazy-Horse There's a Bledisloe this weekend in Dunedin which is 30k. I think it could be tight for a Lions test though.

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                                  @KiwiMurph yeah I fogot about the game being in Dunners this weekend. Google tells me Wellington is 34500 so this proposal will be a bit smaller.

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                                    So just another 1/4 of a billion to find on top of the 1/4 billion already budgeted for..

                                    Some other articles on this proposal:

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/96044603/who-will-pay-for-shortfall-in-christchurchs-proposed-new-stadium

                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/96021088/new-christchurch-arena-could-have-solid-roof-and-retractable-playing-field

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                                      doesn't say anything about the $$$ they would have got for AMI stadium payout following the quakes, or has that been gobbled up already?

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                                        Why isn't the Dunedin Stadium design an option that Chch is looking at?

                                        Why are they looking at more expensive options, when Dunedin's groundbreaking design showed you don't need a retractable roof or retractable pitch. Is the dick in someone's pants not retractable? ( the architect? Or trust board?)

                                        This is just retarded. Why do they want retractable? What is the benefit?

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                                        http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/337798/new-report-favours-496m-christchurch-stadium

                                        Christchurch's new stadium could be a 25,000-seat $496m venue with a retractable pitch, according to a new report.

                                        An artist's impression of a new Christchurch stadium.An artist's impression of a new Christchurch stadium. Photo: Christchurch Stadium Trust
                                        The feasibility study by the Christchurch Stadium Trust, established to manage the stadium, details four options for a multi-use arena next to the central city.

                                        A blueprint for the new stadium was drawn up in 2012 as part of the earthquake recovery plan, and the original idea was to have a 35,000-seat covered arena with a retractable roof.

                                        But the trust's study found that option would be too expensive, and too big.

                                        Read the full report here (PDF, 5.8MB).

                                        The report instead detailed four other options with the cheapest, at $368m, catering for 25,000 people and having a roof covering up to 80 percent of the venue.

                                        The most expensive would have 30,000 permanent seats, a solid roof and retractable pitch, for a price tag of $584m.

                                        But the preferred option was a $496m stadium, which would have 25,000 permanent seats, a solid roof and retractable pitch.

                                        The city council has already promised a quarter of a billion dollars for the project, which would take more than five years to build.

                                        Construction could start at the beginning of 2019.

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                                        • RapidoR Rapido

                                          Why isn't the Dunedin Stadium design an option that Chch is looking at?

                                          Why are they looking at more expensive options, when Dunedin's groundbreaking design showed you don't need a retractable roof or retractable pitch. Is the dick in someone's pants not retractable? ( the architect? Or trust board?)

                                          This is just retarded. Why do they want retractable? What is the benefit?

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                                          http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/337798/new-report-favours-496m-christchurch-stadium

                                          Christchurch's new stadium could be a 25,000-seat $496m venue with a retractable pitch, according to a new report.

                                          An artist's impression of a new Christchurch stadium.An artist's impression of a new Christchurch stadium. Photo: Christchurch Stadium Trust
                                          The feasibility study by the Christchurch Stadium Trust, established to manage the stadium, details four options for a multi-use arena next to the central city.

                                          A blueprint for the new stadium was drawn up in 2012 as part of the earthquake recovery plan, and the original idea was to have a 35,000-seat covered arena with a retractable roof.

                                          But the trust's study found that option would be too expensive, and too big.

                                          Read the full report here (PDF, 5.8MB).

                                          The report instead detailed four other options with the cheapest, at $368m, catering for 25,000 people and having a roof covering up to 80 percent of the venue.

                                          The most expensive would have 30,000 permanent seats, a solid roof and retractable pitch, for a price tag of $584m.

                                          But the preferred option was a $496m stadium, which would have 25,000 permanent seats, a solid roof and retractable pitch.

                                          The city council has already promised a quarter of a billion dollars for the project, which would take more than five years to build.

                                          Construction could start at the beginning of 2019.

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                                          @Rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          Why isn't the Dunedin Stadium design an option that Chch is looking at?

                                          Why are they looking at more expensive options, when Dunedin's groundbreaking design showed you don't need a retractable roof or retractable pitch. Is the dick in someone's pants not retractable? ( the architect? Or trust board?)

                                          This is just retarded. Why do they want retractable? What is the benefit?

                                          There are some answers in the articles (one of the options they were looking at was a Dunedin design)

                                          "The retractable pitch provides the character of an arena as opposed to a stadium, which is still the predominant mode of (Dunedin's) Forsyth Barr Stadium."

                                          A retractable tray would allow the turf to be moved outside to grow, exposing a concrete floor that could be used for events, concerts, and non-turf sports.

                                          This option would be $31m more expensive than the Forsyth-Barr-style setup, but would allow lighting and sound systems to hang from the roof, and protect the turf from damage during concerts.

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