Beaver book
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@jegga said in Beaver book:
It says something about beaver that while we were castigating him over one kick a coaching legend like McGeechan was trying to sign him to his club .
Which kick?
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@gt12 said in Beaver book:
Missed touch in Hong Kong, 2010.
Not the missed penalty that would have put the game away a few minutes earlier?
Or the repeated chip kicks out of his own 22 in South Africa in 2009?
He wasn't a great All Black who was vilified for one poor kick. He was off the pace for his whole career, yet kept getting picked - Hong Kong was just the point where it became literally impossible to keep picking him.
Each to their own but I find the pumping of Donald by a certain subset of the media, including the author, a little tiring.
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@gt12 said in Beaver book:
Missed touch in Hong Kong, 2010.
Not the missed penalty that would have put the game away a few minutes earlier?
Or the repeated chip kicks out of his own 22 in South Africa in 2009?
He wasn't a great All Black who was vilified for one poor kick. He was off the pace for his whole career, yet kept getting picked - Hong Kong was just the point where it became literally impossible to keep picking him.
Each to their own but I find the pumping of Donald by a certain subset of the media, including the author, a little tiring.
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He's turned into a very handy 12, arguably better than he ever was at 10. Might have been better to play his whole career there.
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He's turned into a very handy 12, arguably better than he ever was at 10. Might have been better to play his whole career there.
@Billy-Tell said in Beaver book:
He's turned into a very handy 12, arguably better than he ever was at 10. Might have been better to play his whole career there.
He took a fair while to get a bit of solidity in his body. He was quite slight in his earlier years and wouldn't have made much of a midfielder.
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It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
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@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
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Donald was an enigma when he was in the ab frame. He mixed some clumsy arse shit with some incredibly good rugby. I remember watching the Chiefs after I'd seen him play like a tard. I expected to see more of the same but he carved up using a lethal mix of brute force and skill. It blew me away. Unfortunately he couldn't do that at test level.
The fact that he wasn't Dan Carter and was a ungainly dopey looking fucker made him an easy target. A convenient scapegoat.
Still, his story of redemption is awesome. Considering the shit he's had to cop to his face from people who probably can't even pass or kick a ball, it must be hugely satisfying.
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@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
@rotated said in Beaver book:
@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
Where the fuck were you in 2010 and 2011? Clearly not in NZ.
Good read, bit of a pity they picked out the most obvious bit but I guess that's to be expected. Might have to buy it.
You'd hope the dickheads who gave him shit eventually took a look in the mirror and stopped being dicks but probably not.
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@rotated said in Beaver book:
@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
Where the fuck were you in 2010 and 2011? Clearly not in NZ.
Good read, bit of a pity they picked out the most obvious bit but I guess that's to be expected. Might have to buy it.
You'd hope the dickheads who gave him shit eventually took a look in the mirror and stopped being dicks but probably not.
@Unco said in Beaver book:
@rotated said in Beaver book:
@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
**Where the fuck were you in 2010 and 2011? Clearly not in NZ.
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Good read, bit of a pity they picked out the most obvious bit but I guess that's to be expected. Might have to buy it.You'd hope the dickheads who gave him shit eventually took a look in the mirror and stopped being dicks but probably not.
I wasn't even going to debate the point its so odd to see it made. He got loads of shit particularly after Hong Kong, he answered his detractors -which included me in the best way possible . Good on him.
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@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
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@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
Like the old quiz game - name 10 famous Canadians, only the bloody Trudeau lot have made that one a little easier. Anyway we can always substitute Belgians.
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@rotated said in Beaver book:
@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
Where the fuck were you in 2010 and 2011? Clearly not in NZ.
Good read, bit of a pity they picked out the most obvious bit but I guess that's to be expected. Might have to buy it.
You'd hope the dickheads who gave him shit eventually took a look in the mirror and stopped being dicks but probably not.
@Unco said in Beaver book:
@rotated said in Beaver book:
@gt12 said in Beaver book:
It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!
That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.
Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.
Where the fuck were you in 2010 and 2011? Clearly not in NZ.
Good read, bit of a pity they picked out the most obvious bit but I guess that's to be expected. Might have to buy it.
You'd hope the dickheads who gave him shit eventually took a look in the mirror and stopped being dicks but probably not.
Saying he wasn't up to AB standard and they wanted him dropped isn't castigating him, nor is saying he was primarily responsible for blowing that game.
Watch Weight of the Nation they dig up as much archival footage as they can and as cutting as it gets is Richard Loe saying something to the effect of 'that's it, he isn't the answer'. Radio Sport calls were all along the same lines - no one was saying he should have his contract ripped up, nor Donald be sent home from the tour (I wanted Slade to replace the injured Sivivatu though) or worse. If they did I would love to see it.
Contrast that with what Ted got after 2007 - front page calling for him to be guillotined, the drivel Deaker and co went on. That is much closer to castigation.
Obviously can't speak for the odd drunk idiot he ran into - but at that point it's more about the individual than the nation.
It makes for a better story, but if you can't say a player played poorly on their 15th chance then we may as well pack up and give it away. He isn't the first AB to play poorly and get called out on it, Jonah got it on debut as a teenager FFS.
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@Crucial said in Beaver book:
@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
Like the old quiz game - name 10 famous Canadians, only the bloody Trudeau lot have made that one a little easier. Anyway we can always substitute Belgians.
@Catogrande said in Beaver book:
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
Like the old quiz game - name 10 famous Canadians, only the bloody Trudeau lot have made that one a little easier.
Bieber, Shania, Shatner, Celine, Joni, Cohen, Neil, Drake, Jordan B. Petersen, and, ummm, ooooh, one more, okay, Gretzky.
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@Catogrande said in Beaver book:
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
Like the old quiz game - name 10 famous Canadians, only the bloody Trudeau lot have made that one a little easier.
Bieber, Shania, Shatner, Celine, Joni, Cohen, Neil, Drake, Jordan B. Petersen, and, ummm, ooooh, one more, okay, Gretzky.
@Salacious-Crumb said in Beaver book:
@Catogrande said in Beaver book:
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
Like the old quiz game - name 10 famous Canadians, only the bloody Trudeau lot have made that one a little easier.
Bieber, Shania, Shatner, Celine, Joni, Cohen, Neil, Drake, Jordan B. Petersen, and, ummm, ooooh, one more, okay, Gretzky.
To prove the point I can't work out at a glance who some of those people are.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Beaver book:
@Catogrande said in Beaver book:
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
@chimoaus said in Beaver book:
@NTA said in Beaver book:
This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.
Probably a little confusing for our Canadian friends also.
No one really has Canadian friends do they?
Like the old quiz game - name 10 famous Canadians, only the bloody Trudeau lot have made that one a little easier.
Bieber, Shania, Shatner, Celine, Joni, Cohen, Neil, Drake, Jordan B. Petersen, and, ummm, ooooh, one more, okay, Gretzky.
To prove the point I can't work out at a glance who some of those people are.
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
To prove the point I can't work out at a glance who some of those people are.
Justin Bieber (famous with the kids, allegedly)
Shania Twain (biggest selling record by female artist ever, and still gorgeous for an old chick)
William Shatner (played Captain Kirk, amongst others)
Celine Dion (huge with housewives, allegedly)
Joni Mitchell (maybe too avant garde for your tastes?)
Leonard Cohen (dead now, halelujah!)
Neil Young (godfather of grunge, hippie)
Drake (modern hip-hop recording artist, supposedly popular)
Jordan B. Petersen (anti-christ to Social Justice Warriors, and probably the biggest star of the lot)
Wayne Gretzky (Canadians play hockey) -
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
To prove the point I can't work out at a glance who some of those people are.
Justin Bieber (famous with the kids, allegedly)
Shania Twain (biggest selling record by female artist ever, and still gorgeous for an old chick)
William Shatner (played Captain Kirk, amongst others)
Celine Dion (huge with housewives, allegedly)
Joni Mitchell (maybe too avant garde for your tastes?)
Leonard Cohen (dead now, halelujah!)
Neil Young (godfather of grunge, hippie)
Drake (modern hip-hop recording artist, supposedly popular)
Jordan B. Petersen (anti-christ to Social Justice Warriors, and probably the biggest star of the lot)
Wayne Gretzky (Canadians play hockey)@Salacious-Crumb said in Beaver book:
@Crucial said in Beaver book:
To prove the point I can't work out at a glance who some of those people are.
Justin Bieber (famous with the kids, allegedly)Not allowed. Just NOT OK?
Shania Twain (biggest selling record by female artist ever, and still gorgeous for an old chick)
William Shatner (played Captain Kirk, amongst others)Not allowed as no-one knows he's a canuck
Celine Dion (huge with housewives, allegedly)
Joni Mitchell (maybe too avant garde for your tastes?)
Leonard Cohen (dead now, halelujah!)
Neil Young (godfather of grunge, hippie)
Drake (modern hip-hop recording artist, supposedly popular)Who?
Jordan B. Petersen (anti-christ to Social Justice Warriors, and probably the biggest star of the lot)Not allowed, he's a citizen of the world
Wayne Gretzky (Canadians play hockey)Good luck with the Belgians. Oh and Poirot doesn't count.
