Hawkes Bay Schoolboy Rugby

Stargazer

Great results in the Super 8 yesterday; Central North Island, quite the opposite:

Napier BHS 45 - 22 New Plymouth BHS
Hastings BHS 64 - 0 Tauranga BHS

St Peter's 77 - 5 Te Aute
Lindisfarne 0 - 53 Feilding HS
St Paul's 73 - 3 St John's Hastings

Magpie_in_aus

@Stargazer apprently the Lindisfarne game was 14-0 after the first half. Will they televise the HBHS vs HBHS game next week will be huge.

Stargazer

@Magpie_in_aus According to the TV schedule that they published early in the season, Sky will probably televise the Super 8 Final on Sat 12 August (not the 5 August game). Hopefully, they won't change their mind. Would be awesome if it's a home game.

Stargazer

Napier Boys have won the Polson Banner back from Palmy Boys this afternoon. Napier won 12 to 10.

Number 10

According to the TV Guide, this week's Super Eight final (Hastings BHS v Hamilton BHS) is live on Sky (Rugby Channel) at 2.30pm.

Number 10

Super Eight Final is confirmed for 12.10pm and is live on Sky TV according to this morning's HB Today.

Stargazer

@Number-10 It's also in the SKY TV guide. I'm glad we can finally watch them play. I hope they'll win with a bigger margin than last Saturday, which result was much closer than expected.

By the way, Napier BHS is also going on repeat this Saturday. Last week, they narrowly beat Palmy Boys in the Super 8. This Saturday they play them again in Napier in a Hurricanes region play-off match. Kick-off 12.30pm.

Not sure why Napier needs to play that game though. As far as I know, the 2 highest ranked Super 8 teams from the Hurricanes region are already automatically qualified for the Hurricanes competition. Napier is that second team (although they finished 4th behind Hastings, Hamilton & Rotorua). The schedule below seems to confirm that.

Apparently, Hastings also still have to play a Wellington team on Sat 19/8.

2017 Hurricanes competition - Schoolboys schedule:

Wed 23/8: challenger match between the Wellington Premiership runner-up (most likely Scots College) and a Hurricanes challenger team (I think that's a school not competing in Well Premiership and Super 8?)

Sat 26/8: semi-final between Wellington Premiership winner (Silverstream) v Super 8 second placed team (that should be Napier?) to be played in Wellington
Sat 26/8: semi-final between Super 8 first placed team (Hastings) v Wellington Premiership runner-up or the challenger team to be played in Hastings

Sat 2/9: Hurricanes Final

NZ Barbarians National 1st XV Championships (Top 4) - Sport & Rugby Institute, Palmerston North
Fri 8/9 semi-finals
Sun 10/9 finals

Stargazer

Gutted. Hastings Boys have lost the Super 8 Final! Final score was 12 -12, but with both teams also scoring the same number of tries, Hamilton BHS have won because they scored the first try. Why is there no extra time in schoolboys rugby?

Stockcar86

@Stargazer said in Schoolboy Rugby:

Gutted. Hastings Boys have lost the Super 8 Final! Final score was 12 -12, but with both teams also scoring the same number of tries, Hamilton BHS have won because they scored the first try. Why is there no extra time in schoolboys rugby?

agreed

Stargazer

Who in the Bay has pissed off the rugby gods? Napier BHS lost its Hurricanes qualification game v Palmerston North 20-21. Again, such a close game. Haven't seen today's rep rugby results yet, but I hope we've now had the worst weekend in Bay rugby and all goes upward from now.

Stargazer

@middleman said in Hasting Boys:

Re: Schoolboy Rugby

Not sure who decided how Super8 was to be determined. Is it only in the last few years that they have played a final when previously winner of the round robin was champion. So this year Hastings were unbeaten after last weekend and are still unbeaten but finish second WTF.

When I saw your post, I decided to look up when they first started playing finals.

The first Super 8 final was played in 2014, when Hamilton Boys finished top of the table after the round robin, then played no. 2 Palmerston North in the Final and beat them convincingly 21-3.

In 2015, Hamilton finished on top after the round robin again, and beat no. 2 Rotorua in the final: 33-14.

Last year, Hastings ended on top and beat no. 2 Hamilton in the final: 30-8.

I agree with you; it's completely insane and unfair. In an article in the Hawke's Bay Today, they write that even the Hamilton coach thought the two schools were going to share the trophy, so he wasn't aware of this crazy tiebreaking rule, either.

They should change it, but I don't know who is responsible for this competition. Don't think NZR is involved. The Super 8 website speaks of a "New Zealand Super Eight group of schools", but that's all. It's probably some kind of association established by the schools themselves, but it's all very vague.

middleman

Thanks for that Stargazer. I have to confess to having a vested interest being involved with Hastings Boys. You are correct that Super 8 group make their own rules but surely they should have seen the possibility of this occurring . Makes it even harder because we rarely have a team of this ability and I have been gloating a bit. BTW how did Napier lose to Palmerston? I'd rather have two Hawkes Bay going further.

Higgins

@Stargazer said in Schoolboy Rugby:

Who in the Bay has pissed off the rugby gods? Napier BHS lost its Hurricanes qualification game v Palmerston North 20-21. Again, such a close game. Haven't seen today's rep rugby results yet, but I hope we've now had the worst weekend in Bay rugby and all goes upward from now.

How can you be upset about that as Hastings killed PNBHS by 100 points earlier this season. If you can 't beat a team that lost by 100 you can't be that good yourself and are never going to go anywhere anyway. Learn the lesson from the school of hard knocks NBHS as I hang my head in abject disappointment.

Stargazer

Hastings Boys will play Wellington College on Saturday for a spot in the Hurricanes final. Kick-off 12.00pm at HBHS.

The other semi-final is between St Pat's Stream and Palmerston-North BHS.

By the way, one of the co-ed semi-finals was supposed to be played between Porirua College and Wairoa College, but apparently Wairoa has defaulted, so Porirua through to the final.

Stargazer

Great result for Hastings Boys: they beat Wellington College 78 to 0 today.

Next week's Hurricanes final is going to be more difficult against St Pat's Silverstream, who defeated Palmerston North BHS 50-22 and is - I think - also unbeaten this season.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=11911736