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Bledisloe I

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  • Salacious CrumbS Salacious Crumb

    @akan004 said in Bledisloe I:

    Interesting tweet...

    "NZ outscored 2nd half in only 5 of 68 games from 2012-2016.
    Now lost 2nd half in 3 consecutive matches. Last time that happened was 1996."

    1996 was a vintage year.

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    @Salacious-Crumb This test reminds me of the Bledisloe game in 97 in Dunedin. I think we were up by close to 40 at halftime and only won the game by about 10.

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      Since we are talking about history according to someone on pr Facebook didn't exist last time the wallabies held the bledisloe cup .

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      • jeggaJ jegga

        Since we are talking about history according to someone on pr Facebook didn't exist last time the wallabies held the bledisloe cup .

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        @jegga said in Bledisloe I:

        Since we are talking about history according to someone on pr Facebook didn't exist last time the wallabies held the bledisloe cup .

        Neither did iphones. Or anyone who is under the age of 15.

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        • jeggaJ jegga

          Damien MacKenzie gets a 9

          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/95954417/how-the-all-blacks-rated-in-dominant-win-over-wallabies

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          @jegga said in Bledisloe I:

          Damien MacKenzie gets a 9

          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/95954417/how-the-all-blacks-rated-in-dominant-win-over-wallabies

          On what planet is that effort a nine? Was it his awful clearing bomb? Running away from support and retreating miles behind the advantage line to get caught or his excellent pass to Beale?

          None of them deserved the scores they received. The Wallabies defense was dreadful and flattered us. Once Kuridrani was on for Kerevi they looked much better.

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            Pretty stunned after watching that - when did Wayne Barnes become a chilled referee? He was calm, trying to speed up play....when did that happen?

            Scoreline was expected, ABs belt Aussie and spend the second half doing the equivalent of a training run. Whoever was starting centre for the Wallabies probably shouldn't be starting centre ever again.

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              Just got back from the game and watching the recording.

              WTF, Reading this place you'd think that DMac had the worst AB performance since So'oialo at Rustenburg where at the ground he appeared to be involved in pretty much most of the good stuff in the first half.

              Annoyingly you could tell the ABs had slacked off after the second of their second half tries. They fucked around in their own half for ages when they should have just kicked it downfield. Then after that they stopped building plays and just attacked individually.

              Haven't got to the, ahem, interesting reffing decisions as yet on the recording, but seemed a bit suss at the ground.

              Squire, Retallick, Rieko all had good games. DMac had a good game at the park, Crotty had a good game but not best on park, Smith was really good in that first half. Actually everyone had a good game in the first half ... less so in the second.

              @Higgins I thought that was one of the worst anthem performances ever, I was wondering why they just used an Aussie and didn't get a Kiwi and then realised it was a Kiwi when watching the recording.

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                That was like watching the Waratah. They ship a stupid number of points and only start playing when the game is well and truly over.

                I'll focus on the first 50 which was as close to perfection as you'd ever want to see. Yes the come down sucked but since when was it disappointing winning by 20 in Sydney.

                I'm happy.

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                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                  That was like watching the Waratah. They ship a stupid number of points and only start playing when the game is well and truly over.

                  I'll focus on the first 50 which was as close to perfection as you'd ever want to see. Yes the come down sucked but since when was it disappointing winning by 20 in Sydney.

                  I'm happy.

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                  @Rancid-Schnitzel It was disppointing winning by 20 in Sydney cos they should have won by 40.

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                    As expected, Hooper really talked up the 2nd half performance. Reckons they will trouble any team if they play like that.

                    You have to give it to them, they really do know how to talk themselves up no matter how crap they are.

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                      @Rancid-Schnitzel It was disppointing winning by 20 in Sydney cos they should have won by 40.

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                      @Samurai-Jack said in Bledisloe I:

                      @Rancid-Schnitzel It was disppointing winning by 20 in Sydney cos they should have won by 40.

                      Yeah I know, it would have been nice to see 70 odd but the RC is long and tough. The point is that when switched on they massacred them.

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                      • G Gunner

                        @jegga said in Bledisloe I:

                        Damien MacKenzie gets a 9

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/95954417/how-the-all-blacks-rated-in-dominant-win-over-wallabies

                        For the first half, and what did he rate him in the second 40?

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                        @Gunner

                        Dmac a 9 and A. Smith a 7 was a complete joke. I thought DMac had some good moments but also a lot of shockers. I think they brought him off to try and preserve his confidence. He has to get another chance but we really need to see a low error performance akin to his Super Rugby play. I also fear TJ has regressed in his bench role, really defeats the whole purpose of being an impact player if you come on and immediately make more errors than A. Smith the whole game. i think there seems to be a gulf between Crotty and ALB imho, if only we could see him go for 80mins, Bench just added nothing good today and I am still strugglingto know why Tuingafasi is an AB.

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                          I thought DMac had a good game over but a great first 40.

                          Barnes was pretty good too. Good communicator. TJP is a bit hopeless and the game disintegrated when he came on

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                            Too many people doing an Irish impression - ref was fine. The pass floated forward wasn't passed forward and folau wasn't clearly ahead. Law 22.15 was correctly applied by Barnes too.

                            The ABs just went totally off the boil but i suppose when you are leading by a cricket score hard to stay focussed.

                            Kerevi is awful on defence.

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              Too many people doing an Irish impression - ref was fine. The pass floated forward wasn't passed forward and folau wasn't clearly ahead. Law 22.15 was correctly applied by Barnes too.

                              The ABs just went totally off the boil but i suppose when you are leading by a cricket score hard to stay focussed.

                              Kerevi is awful on defence.

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                              @Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe I:

                              Too many people doing an Irish impression - ref was fine. The pass floated forward

                              Fuck me Foley must have perfected the banana pass if he threw that backwards straight into the ABs defensive line.

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                              • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

                                @canefan said in Bledisloe I:

                                Wtf is with Liam Squire's hair?

                                Its a gentlemans mullet

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                                @Stockcar86 said in Bledisloe I:

                                @canefan said in Bledisloe I:

                                Wtf is with Liam Squire's hair?

                                Its a gentlemans mullet

                                Oxymoron

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                                • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                  Make the All Blacks bench spend another 40 minutes out there after full time doing Hennie Muller after Hennie Muller...

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                                  @Donsteppa said in Bledisloe I:

                                  Make the All Blacks bench spend another 40 minutes out there after full time doing Hennie Muller after Hennie Muller...

                                  One for each point conceded

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                                  • G Gunner

                                    @booboo said in Bledisloe I:

                                    Fair call

                                    This time

                                    Bull shit!

                                    The Folau try was a try because it wasn't clear and obvious that it wasn't, so where is the same logic here?

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                                    @Gunner said in Bledisloe I:

                                    Not clear and obvious - must be a try for consistency's sake.

                                    But it is Barnes....

                                    @Gunner said in Bledisloe I:

                                    @booboo said in Bledisloe I:

                                    Fair call

                                    This time

                                    Bull shit!

                                    The Folau try was a try because it wasn't clear and obvious that it wasn't, so where is the same logic here?

                                    Gunner it was 100% correct call. It WAS simultaneous.

                                    The Folau try was patently wrong as they made the wrong call on what we all could see. Strictly speaking they got the ruling correct based on an incorrect call (or calls).

                                    But they really had no other option on Barrett and got it right.

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                                    • HigginsH Higgins

                                      Something like 10000 referees that are available to referee matches and we get this clown (along with those two frog ones)

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                                      @Higgins said in Bledisloe I:

                                      Something like 10000 referees that are available to referee matches and we get this clown (along with those two frog ones)

                                      Actually though Barnesy was pretty good generally (Apart from Foley's pass for Folau's try). Massive upgrade from Poite and Garces.

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                                        We have seen the ABs do that plenty of times against lesser teams, get out to a lead and seem to take the foot off the throttle, although we dont always leak that many

                                        Thought Barnes was pretty good, and I'm in the camp that he has become one of the better refs about even if he is still prone to the odd howler or moment of arrogance.

                                        LIked what we saw of Squire out there, certainly gonna be hard road back for Kaino after his alleged indiscretion

                                        Crotty IS the new Conrad, just makes good decisions on both sides of the ball and is invariably in the right place, a good example in that 2nd try to Ioane after the pass from Dmac, he had a bit of room outside, coulda run 10-15 before being chopped down probably with minimal support but instead cut back to the support for quick ball and nek minut Ioane in.

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                                        • pukunuiP pukunui

                                          For fucks sake.
                                          Im pretty fucking over rugby at the moment to be honest. To put 54 on the Wallabies in sydney and get the win but be pissed off afterward is just a weird feeling.
                                          The reffing of the game at the moment is absolutely killing the game. That Wallabies try was one of the most obvious non tries i have seen in ages. The pass was 1m forward and then a clear offside the angle they made the call on was totally wrong.
                                          Then the non try for BB. The front angle clearly showed BBs hand on the ball first yet they look at some far off angle from behind and the consistency of clear and obvious being required to disallow the try is out the window.

                                          Fuck Barnes.

                                          ABs bench sucked arse.
                                          We need to find a new 3rd hooker and a replacement for Ofa.
                                          TJP was shit again. Has reverted to the old TJ. WTF was that quick lineout? Stupid.

                                          DMac mixed really good with the shit. That is the problem with him.

                                          Ioane, ASmith, Squire and Rettalick really good.
                                          BB's goal kicking very good.

                                          Oh and a big fuck you to the Clown. What sort of professional sits in the coaches box swearing his head off at every ref call, even when it goes his way.
                                          When is he going to get called on his pathetic record as wallabies coach?

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                                          @pukunui said in Bledisloe I:

                                          For fucks sake.
                                          Im pretty fucking over rugby at the moment to be honest. To put 54 on the Wallabies in sydney and get the win but be pissed off afterward is just a weird feeling.
                                          The reffing of the game at the moment is absolutely killing the game. That Wallabies try was one of the most obvious non tries i have seen in ages. The pass was 1m forward and then a clear offside the angle they made the call on was totally wrong.
                                          Then the non try for BB. The front angle clearly showed BBs hand on the ball first yet they look at some far off angle from behind and the consistency of clear and obvious being required to disallow the try is out the window.

                                          Fuck Barnes.

                                          ABs bench sucked arse.
                                          We need to find a new 3rd hooker and a replacement for Ofa.
                                          TJP was shit again. Has reverted to the old TJ. WTF was that quick lineout? Stupid.

                                          DMac mixed really good with the shit. That is the problem with him.

                                          Ioane, ASmith, Squire and Rettalick really good.
                                          BB's goal kicking very good.

                                          Oh and a big fuck you to the Clown. What sort of professional sits in the coaches box swearing his head off at every ref call, even when it goes his way.
                                          When is he going to get called on his pathetic record as wallabies coach?

                                          The Clown: 19 wins 16 losses 54%
                                          McKenzie: 11, 10, 1 draw 52.3%
                                          Dingo: 43, 29, 2, 59.2%
                                          Knuckles: 16, 8, 1, 66%
                                          Steady: 33, 23, 1, 58.8%
                                          McQueen: 34, 8, 1, 80.2%
                                          Smith: 12, 7, 0, 63.2%

                                          What they wouldn't give for Smith's record. And he was vilified as useless ...

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