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  • chimoausC chimoaus

    Any ideas for a solution? Do they allow x number of young players on top of the squad numbers? Do they have some sort of transfer window? A draft system like the AFL?

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    #2254

    @chimoaus said in Super Rugby News:

    some sort of transfer window?

    That might help.. but the downside is it would make players more vulnerable to overseas offers waiting for the window

    I think it might sort it self out over time. The lack of spots seems a lot worse this year.
    When franchises miss out on high quality SR players because they didn't leave spots open for NPC breakouts, behaviour will change

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      Players can still emerge through the NPC though. How many had heard of Mitchell Brown before he was selected to make his debut for the Chiefs against Wales last year? He wasn't named in the original squad but was part of the WTG.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        Clarke and Papali'i are pretty obvious signings. I don't see any problem with young guys working their way through the age group teams and earning a contract.

        I don't have sympathy for a 23-25 year old who can't squeeze his way into the top ~200 players in the country. That means not being rated by 5 different sets of selectors. It's not a charity.

        The problem is the lack of open spots 1 week into the NPC season. Some franchises have already claimed their roster is almost sorted.. thats a real issue

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        @Duluth I wasn't meaning anyone in particular and tbf there probably aren't big numbers of truly unlucky players but are still a few who do get shut out because so few spots exist due to signing these young guys who might not play in thier first year of a 3 year contract.

        Also don't think there is an easy fix...is just guys getting contracted out of school is becoming more normal I guess.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @JayCee said in Super Rugby News:

          radio sport are reporting that Bryn Hall has re-signed with the Crusaders

          Confirmed by the Crusaders. Hall has re-signed for one season.

          http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1142-bryn-hall-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

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          #2257

          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

          @JayCee said in Super Rugby News:

          radio sport are reporting that Bryn Hall has re-signed with the Crusaders

          Confirmed by the Crusaders. Hall has re-signed for one season.

          http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1142-bryn-hall-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

          So by my count:

          Not yet signed from last year's squad:
          Jed Brown
          Quentin Strange
          Andrew Makalio
          Heiden Bedwell Curtis
          Mitchell Dunshea
          Tim Bateman
          Manasa Makaele
          Marty McKenzie
          Sione Fifita
          Sean Wainui

          New signings:
          Tom Sanders

          So, still nine vacant slots assuming Richard Knowler is on the ball regarding unsigned players from last year.

          Question for Crusaders fans. Do you cut Marty McKenzie and sign a young first five like Cameron or McKay - or stick with him as your third choice for another season given that if you need to actually use someone he'll probably be the best in the short term.

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            Does anyone know if Delany has signed with any one?

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            • JayCeeJ JayCee

              Does anyone know if Delany has signed with any one?

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              @JayCee He's not on my list. While that is no 100% guarantee he hasn't signed with anyone, I'm reasonably confident he's still a free man.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                @JayCee said in Super Rugby News:

                radio sport are reporting that Bryn Hall has re-signed with the Crusaders

                Confirmed by the Crusaders. Hall has re-signed for one season.

                http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1142-bryn-hall-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

                So by my count:

                Not yet signed from last year's squad:
                Jed Brown
                Quentin Strange
                Andrew Makalio
                Heiden Bedwell Curtis
                Mitchell Dunshea
                Tim Bateman
                Manasa Makaele
                Marty McKenzie
                Sione Fifita
                Sean Wainui

                New signings:
                Tom Sanders

                So, still nine vacant slots assuming Richard Knowler is on the ball regarding unsigned players from last year.

                Question for Crusaders fans. Do you cut Marty McKenzie and sign a young first five like Cameron or McKay - or stick with him as your third choice for another season given that if you need to actually use someone he'll probably be the best in the short term.

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                @Chris-B.

                Question for Crusaders fans. Do you cut Marty McKenzie and sign a young first five like Cameron or McKay - or stick with him as your third choice for another season given that if you need to actually use someone he'll probably be the best in the short term.

                I would cut Marty McKenzie. He's a palagi Volavola. Our '3rd first five' position would be much better filled by someone like Josh McKay.

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                  #2261

                  Worth remembering Tim Bateman could fill that role of experienced, serviceable first five if we ever got in a hole where Mo'unga and Hunt fall over in the same week we play a NZ team where it's too important to start a McKay or Cameron.

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                  • TimT Away
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                    #2262

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96264455/andrew-flexman-stepping-down-as-chief-executive-of-chiefs-super-rugby-club

                    Starting a fashion company - specialising in shirts.

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                      Savea not going anywhere...

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96294277/julian-savea-to-stay-with-hurricanes

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                        #2264

                        WESTERN FORCE APPEAL: ARU WIN CASE TO AXE CLUB

                        THE Western Force have lost their case in the NSW Supreme Court to overturn the ARUโ€™s axing of the Super Rugby club.

                        Justice David Hammerschlag handed down his decision this morning at the NSW Supreme Court.

                        http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/rugby/western-force/western-force-appeal-aru-win-case-to-axe-club/news-story/f7bb046e97e3a86713778befbad58dfc

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                          Tryel Lomax to play for Highlanders in 2019/2020

                          http://thehighlanders.co.nz/news/849-promising-young-prop-returns-to-new-zealand

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                            #2266

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96751239/champion-crusaders-sign-speedy-canterbury-rookie-braydon-ennor

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96751239/champion-crusaders-sign-speedy-canterbury-rookie-braydon-ennor

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                              Ennor, a St Kentigern's old boy, is originally from Auckland but moved to Christchurch last year and is almost two years through a commerce degree at Canterbury University.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Ennor, a St Kentigern's old boy, is originally from Auckland but moved to Christchurch last year and is almost two years through a commerce degree at Canterbury University.

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                                @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                                Ennor, a St Kentigern's old boy, is originally from Auckland but moved to Christchurch last year and is almost two years through a commerce degree at Canterbury University.

                                Smart move ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                • SammyCS SammyC

                                  @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                                  Ennor, a St Kentigern's old boy, is originally from Auckland but moved to Christchurch last year and is almost two years through a commerce degree at Canterbury University.

                                  Smart move ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                  #2269

                                  @SammyC shakes fist ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96751239/champion-crusaders-sign-speedy-canterbury-rookie-braydon-ennor

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                                    @Duluth There's some good info at the bottom of that post:

                                    Contracted Crusaders:
                                    Codie Taylor (until 2021), Sam Whitelock, Oli Jager, Mitchell Drummond (2020); Kieran Read, Owen Franks, Israel Dagg, Joe Moody, Ben Funnell, Tim Perry, Mitchell Hunt, George Bridge, Jack Goodhue, David Havili, Richie Mo'unga, Tom Sanders, Braydon Ennor (2019); Matt Todd, Ryan Crotty, Seta Tamanivalu, Wyatt Crockett, Jordan Taufua, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Mike Alaalatoa, Jone Macilai, Leon Fukofuka, Pete Samu, Digby Ioane, Bryn Hall (2018).

                                    No Ere Enari in that list.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @SammyC shakes fist ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                      @Tim Looks like you have to blame his dad!

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                                        Anyway, with Ennor signed, it looks more and more likely that either Sione Fifita and/or Sean Wainui will be dropped.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @Duluth There's some good info at the bottom of that post:

                                          Contracted Crusaders:
                                          Codie Taylor (until 2021), Sam Whitelock, Oli Jager, Mitchell Drummond (2020); Kieran Read, Owen Franks, Israel Dagg, Joe Moody, Ben Funnell, Tim Perry, Mitchell Hunt, George Bridge, Jack Goodhue, David Havili, Richie Mo'unga, Tom Sanders, Braydon Ennor (2019); Matt Todd, Ryan Crotty, Seta Tamanivalu, Wyatt Crockett, Jordan Taufua, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Mike Alaalatoa, Jone Macilai, Leon Fukofuka, Pete Samu, Digby Ioane, Bryn Hall (2018).

                                          No Ere Enari in that list.

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                                          #2273

                                          @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @Duluth There's some good info at the bottom of that post:

                                          No Ere Enari in that list.

                                          He's sitting there waiting to be poached ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          Curse Blackadder and his idiotic decision to sign Fukafuka for 2 years!

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