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All Blacks vs Boks

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:

    What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.

    I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging 😉
    What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Boks:

    @Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:

    What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.

    I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging 😉
    What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.

    Sounds about right.

    Scrum dogs like NTA will know better, but to me Hames at 5' 11" with short legs (but able to squat 250kg) is always going to be underneath top level THs, who are usually 6' 1" or more. Their standard response is subtly to push downwards. So inherently unstable. Often leads to collapse or TH being popped. Not clear to me that either side is innocent, but often LH pinged for not holding scrum up or something similar.

    Expect similar tactics from Dreyer. In Super final shut the gate on Moody several times when he was starting to angle in.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:

      What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.

      I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging 😉
      What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.

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      @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Boks:

      @Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:

      What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.

      I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging 😉
      What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.

      Greenandgold would agree: http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/analysis-wallabies-scrum-issues-against-lions/

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        @Rocky-Rockbottom said in All Blacks vs Boks:

        Jesus. Look at this guy . Gets pwnd and THIS is his comeback? That is an embarrassingly lame retort for a purported professional journalist. Doesn’t take a PROFESSIONAL WRITER to deduce that it’s pretty much accepted, colloquially, that “not renowned” is synonymous with “shit”.

        Too right. The technical name for it is Litotes. It is a huge part of Kiwi speech, and sometimes a thing that can trap foreigners (especially Yanks) who talk more literally. I have no idea what Hinton's excuse is.

        Other standard rugby examples include:
        "Pretty average" = shit
        "Ordinary" = very poor
        "Not bad" = very good

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          OK. I'm in Paris for the weekend. Anyone know a place I can watch the rugby that may be open at 0930?

          Edit: a suggestion or two in the next eight hours would be good.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            OK. I'm in Paris for the weekend. Anyone know a place I can watch the rugby that may be open at 0930?

            Edit: a suggestion or two in the next eight hours would be good.

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            @Crucial Finding a place open at 9:30 am is generally pretty tough.

            L'Equipe lists these bars though:

            http://ebar.lequipe.fr/matches/Paris/rugby-championship-new-zealand-south-africa-16-09-2017

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              OK. I'm in Paris for the weekend. Anyone know a place I can watch the rugby that may be open at 0930?

              Edit: a suggestion or two in the next eight hours would be good.

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              @Crucial I used to work near this Saffa bar, and it says it's open.

              http://www.lapommedeve.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=88

              Never actually went for a drink there, but it looked tolerable.

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                Café Six might be more civilised.

                19 rue Canettes
                75006 Paris

                http://www.allomatch.com/bar-sportif/paris/cafe-six.html

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                • TimT Tim

                  Café Six might be more civilised.

                  19 rue Canettes
                  75006 Paris

                  http://www.allomatch.com/bar-sportif/paris/cafe-six.html

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                  @Tim Cheers. I'm going to give that a go.

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                        In memory of Harry Dean Stanton, his 1960's lookalike is singing the Saffa anthem

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                          DMac with another drop..

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                            First of 100 up and unders coming dmacs way tonight

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                              Worst possible start for DMac.

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                                Dmac continues where he left off...

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                                  Going up high for a chest mark with his elbows really wide apart

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                                    Nothing is Dmacs fault according to the coaches - cant have been his error

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                                      Did not touch it with his hands. That bad. Should not have been a knock on.

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                                      • mimicM mimic

                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Boks:

                                        I always thought scrummaging was Hames' strength!

                                        Just because it's his strength doesn't mean that he is renowned for it.

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                                        @mimic not renown for anything else. Just scrummaging. So if he isn't known at all, Hinton should have just said that. Gotta agree with others on here, I thought Hinton is either not very well versed in English language usage, a sarcastic bugger, or a prick. Or perhaps a winning combo. Anyway, back to the game..

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                                          Boks have clearly targetting up the middle/one pass off the ruck as the place to make yards against AB defence.

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