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  • DamoD Damo

    @Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.

    Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.

    I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.

    I tend to think that people who assault referees almost always do so because they can't control themselves at that particular moment. Someone in that state is not thinking at all of the consequences of their actions. Even if they were, the difference between a 2 year ban and a 10 year ban is largely immaterial for the offender at that moment. If he gave it a moments thought he wouldn't assault the referee!

    I get the outrage, and I'm outraged about the incident too. I just don't think the feeling of outrage need be our master when deciding upon sentence in cases like this.

    I appreciate my view is in the extreme minority - I've had a similar debate over this incident elsewhere with no supporters to my view.

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    @Damo sure, I can see where you're coming from, but that's the thing right...if it's drilled into them so that it doesn't need to be an "in the moment" consideration, then that is what's needed. Players can now see this and know the outcome if they assault the ref.

    I can't see how that wouldn't be a factor even in heat of the moment (which I'm not sure I buy when the guy is standing there talking to the ref for a while)

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      IMHO he should have got life. Heat of the moment is in the middle of a fight or if someone had said something nasty to trigger him.The ref was just doing his job and was assaulted for it. That can never be tolerated. Shit like that sickens me.

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      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

        IMHO he should have got life. Heat of the moment is in the middle of a fight or if someone had said something nasty to trigger him.The ref was just doing his job and was assaulted for it. That can never be tolerated. Shit like that sickens me.

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        @Rancid-Schnitzel yep - he's standing there, getting told what he did wrong, then takes it up a notch. No excuse.

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          Rugby in Aussie might not be around in 10 years so it could be a moot point....

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            Now there are rumours that Twiggy "Force White Knight" Forrest might help the ARU expand the NRC here to include more than just local teams and Fiji, instead of the breakaway comp proposed.

            Its an interesting idea but you'll be fighting Sydney and Brisbane Premier Club rugby all the way unless they're inside the tent.

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              Stiles gets the arse from The Reds in favour of Brad Thorn.

              Only one year in the Head Coach role seems a bit harsh, but with that playing roster you don't have many places to hide.

              Wessels goes from Perth to The Rebels after McGahan got the boot earlier in the year. That will be great for Melbourne as he appears to have the right stuff.

              I'm going to call them "The Webbels" from here on in.

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                Stiles was hopelessly out of his depth. Wessels to Rebels is a good move for the Mexicans - with their roster and his coaching they'll be much better.

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                  Not to mention he'll probably bring some talent with him e.g. Coleman

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    Stiles gets the arse from The Reds in favour of Brad Thorn.

                    Only one year in the Head Coach role seems a bit harsh, but with that playing roster you don't have many places to hide.

                    Wessels goes from Perth to The Rebels after McGahan got the boot earlier in the year. That will be great for Melbourne as he appears to have the right stuff.

                    I'm going to call them "The Webbels" from here on in.

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                    @nta

                    Couldn't happen to a better fat caarnt.

                    Is Thorn a Super-level coach just yet? As much as I heart the man, he doesn't seem qualified to rebuild this utter train wreck of an organisation.

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                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                      @nta

                      Couldn't happen to a better fat caarnt.

                      Is Thorn a Super-level coach just yet? As much as I heart the man, he doesn't seem qualified to rebuild this utter train wreck of an organisation.

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                      @rancid-schnitzel watching some of his work with Qld Country, I'm thinking he will be at least as good as Stiles. The work in contact from them this year is impressive.

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                        i'm generally anti players becoming coaches without proving themselves, but thorn changed codes and learned a whole new game, in the forwards. that's a pretty different perspective to most players who grew up just knowing what you do.
                        kind of like how 2nd language english speakers have a much better grasp of grammar rules than native nz speakers, and can consequently teach them better.

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                          This kid has got a bit of toe.

                          https://www.facebook.com/foxrugby/videos/1466900793345413/

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                            This kid has got a bit of toe.

                            https://www.facebook.com/foxrugby/videos/1466900793345413/

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                            @nta That big no2 must have wanted to smack him come the end though.

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                              If you pause it at -28 you can see the Crusaders talent scout with the checkbook out. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/how-a-muck-around-in-sevens-turned-into-rising-stardom-for-maurice-longbottom-20171004-gyua1x.html

                                Aboriginal kids from La Perouse often go to loig so they never stray too far from home.

                                He'll be locked up into a fairly solid Sevens contact shortly I believe.

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                                  If you pause it at -28 you can see the Crusaders talent scout with the checkbook out. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  @nepia said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                  If you pause it at -28 you can see the Crusaders talent scout with the checkbook out. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  Sign him up!

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                                    They can *ff off! The Force are gone; I'd rather see a NZ SR franchise pick him up. He's proven himself worthy of a spot IMO.

                                    Ruru on Wallaby watch, real world Mumm

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/97874702/kiwis-included-as-alan-jones-names-partial-barbarians-squad

                                      Barbarians: Anaru Rangi, Andrew Ready, Augustine Pulu, Chance Peni, Eto Nabuli, George Moala, Isi Naisarani, Jacques Potgieter, Kane Koteka, Luke Jones, Matt Hodgson, Matt Phillip, Michael Ruru, Pek Cowan, Quade Cooper, Richard Arnold, Sam Carter, Sam Greene, Sam Ward, Taniela Tupou, Taqele Naiyaravaro, Theo Strang, Tim Nanai-Williams, Tom Banks.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        They can *ff off! The Force are gone; I'd rather see a NZ SR franchise pick him up. He's proven himself worthy of a spot IMO.

                                        Ruru on Wallaby watch, real world Mumm

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                                        @stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                        They can *ff off! The Force are gone; I'd rather see a NZ SR franchise pick him up. He's proven himself worthy of a spot IMO.

                                        Ruru on Wallaby watch, real world Mumm

                                        That remains to be seen, just remember he had only about half a dozen appearances for Hawkes Bay without ever being the number one in his position (presumably behind Chris Eaton and maybe even Isaac Paewai now I come to think of it).

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                                        • HigginsH Higgins

                                          @stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          They can *ff off! The Force are gone; I'd rather see a NZ SR franchise pick him up. He's proven himself worthy of a spot IMO.

                                          Ruru on Wallaby watch, real world Mumm

                                          That remains to be seen, just remember he had only about half a dozen appearances for Hawkes Bay without ever being the number one in his position (presumably behind Chris Eaton and maybe even Isaac Paewai now I come to think of it).

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                                          @higgins said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          @stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          They can *ff off! The Force are gone; I'd rather see a NZ SR franchise pick him up. He's proven himself worthy of a spot IMO.

                                          Ruru on Wallaby watch, real world Mumm

                                          That remains to be seen, just remember he had only about half a dozen appearances for Hawkes Bay without ever being the number one in his position (presumably behind Chris Eaton and maybe even Isaac Paewai now I come to think of it).

                                          The list of halfbacks not selected during the 'Eaton' era is frustrating. He's looked better for the Force this year than Eaton ever has.

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