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Chiefs 2018

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    Bovidae
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    Out of the 38-man squad only 6 weren't involved this year. So the player turnover isn't as great as in previous years. That said, the loss of experience/class with Elliot, TKB, Cruden and Lowe cannot be underestimated.

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      Out of the 38-man squad only 6 weren't involved this year. So the player turnover isn't as great as in previous years. That said, the loss of experience/class with Elliot, TKB, Cruden and Lowe cannot be underestimated.

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      @bovidae

      That's really the point, isn't it - a lot of class has gone, and we are banking on young players coming through and showing class, because we haven't really signed any. Sadly, I don't see us making the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

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        @tim said in Chiefs 2018:

        Who's in your XXIII, Chiefs fans?

        1. Hames

        2. Harris

        3. Laulala

        4. Retallick

        5. Bird

        6. Brown

        7. Cane

        8. Messam

        9. Weber (to start with)

        10. DMac

        11. Alaimalo

        12. Ngatai

        13. ALB

        14. Pulu

        15. Stevenson

        16. Taukei'aho

        17. Graham

        18. Moli

        19. Seu

        20. Boshier

        21. TTT

        22. Falcon

        23. TNW

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        @bovidae said in Chiefs 2018:

        @tim said in Chiefs 2018:

        Who's in your XXIII, Chiefs fans?

        1. Hames

        2. Harris

        3. Laulala

        4. Retallick

        5. Bird

        6. Brown

        7. Cane

        8. Messam

        9. Weber (to start with)

        10. DMac

        11. Alaimalo

        12. Ngatai

        13. ALB

        14. Pulu

        15. Stevenson

        16. Taukei'aho

        17. Graham

        18. Moli

        19. Seu

        20. Boshier

        21. TTT

        22. Falcon

        23. TNW

        1. McNicol
        2. Alaimalo
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          @bovidae said in Chiefs 2018:

          @tim said in Chiefs 2018:

          Who's in your XXIII, Chiefs fans?

          1. Hames

          2. Harris

          3. Laulala

          4. Retallick

          5. Bird

          6. Brown

          7. Cane

          8. Messam

          9. Weber (to start with)

          10. DMac

          11. Alaimalo

          12. Ngatai

          13. ALB

          14. Pulu

          15. Stevenson

          16. Taukei'aho

          17. Graham

          18. Moli

          19. Seu

          20. Boshier

          21. TTT

          22. Falcon

          23. TNW

          1. McNicol
          2. Alaimalo
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          #59

          @cgrant
          11.McNicol
          14.Alaimalo

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            Crucial
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            I just realised the big hole this squad could fall into.
            They are banking bigtime on DMac continuing his rather incredible durability and gametime.
            An injury to him weakens the 10 position a lot and that's even with him not being proven himself.
            I do wonder if Beaver wasn't contracted because Cooper was always going to bring through one new guy (Falcon) and offer a spot to MMac.
            I would feel far more comfortable with Beaver still in the background.

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              #61

              On Donald:

              Cooper revealed the veteran playmaker is heading for another season in Japan, but that he could come into consideration on his return. "He's a good man, I've coached him with the Junior All Blacks, I've got a good relationship with Stephen," Cooper said. "We're going to talk when he returns and we'll see how we are with injuries and he could be a good injury cover for us."

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              I think Beaver would have been a useful option in the squad to cover 10/12 but he might have decided he could earn better money in Japan. If the Chiefs wanted another experienced 1st 5 then Cooper should have went after Delany. I would assume MMac was amongst the last handful of players offered contracts, and he is more of a fullback now.

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                On Donald:

                Cooper revealed the veteran playmaker is heading for another season in Japan, but that he could come into consideration on his return. "He's a good man, I've coached him with the Junior All Blacks, I've got a good relationship with Stephen," Cooper said. "We're going to talk when he returns and we'll see how we are with injuries and he could be a good injury cover for us."

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                I think Beaver would have been a useful option in the squad to cover 10/12 but he might have decided he could earn better money in Japan. If the Chiefs wanted another experienced 1st 5 then Cooper should have went after Delany. I would assume MMac was amongst the last handful of players offered contracts, and he is more of a fullback now.

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                ARHS
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                #62

                @bovidae

                Spot on there. All 3 first-fives have been playing fullback primarily. Don't understand why Delany and Donald both overlooked - especially as midfield seems overstaffed. Hard to see much game time for Verney. I would want Marty McKenzie on the bench ahead of Falcon as you need a reliable kicker at all times - witness Waikato this year.

                I would certainly want McNicol and Alaimalo on the wings, with Nanai Williams on the bench. I expect big things from Seu this year, so Brown is a reserve for me.

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                  #63

                  Hasn't it been established that Donald isn't overlooked? He's going to Japan.

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                    Hasn't it been established that Donald isn't overlooked? He's going to Japan.

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                    Crucial
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                    #64

                    @bones said in Chiefs 2018:

                    Hasn't it been established that Donald isn't overlooked? He's going to Japan.

                    He only took a Japan contract because he had no other offers.
                    It may be that he was approached after signing, but there was a period where he was waiting on contact for work.

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                      footy01
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                      Would of been good to have Donald in the squad especially as a mentor to DMac and Falcon. Falcon was kicking 85%+ for the 20s so goalkicking shouldn't be an issue but do worry that all 3 10s played fullback in mitre 10 cup. At least with the massive forward pack the team should be going forward which will make it easier for the 10s and get this slick backline going

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                        @bovidae

                        Spot on there. All 3 first-fives have been playing fullback primarily. Don't understand why Delany and Donald both overlooked - especially as midfield seems overstaffed. Hard to see much game time for Verney. I would want Marty McKenzie on the bench ahead of Falcon as you need a reliable kicker at all times - witness Waikato this year.

                        I would certainly want McNicol and Alaimalo on the wings, with Nanai Williams on the bench. I expect big things from Seu this year, so Brown is a reserve for me.

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                        Bovidae
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                        #66

                        @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                        I would certainly want McNicol and Alaimalo on the wings, with Nanai Williams on the bench.

                        Alaimalo will be one of the wingers but the other spot is open. Pulu was chosen a lot this year when fit and took his chances.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                          I would certainly want McNicol and Alaimalo on the wings, with Nanai Williams on the bench.

                          Alaimalo will be one of the wingers but the other spot is open. Pulu was chosen a lot this year when fit and took his chances.

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                          taniwharugby
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                          #67

                          @bovidae I think Alaimalo's best spot is 15, but as we see nowadays 2 of the back 3 are often used as 2nd FB roles anyway and add in his height too, he'll be sweet, his rise has been rapid, hopefully with more starts next year he'll progress even more.

                          Seems durable too, played every single minute for Northland this year.

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                            @bovidae I think Alaimalo's best spot is 15, but as we see nowadays 2 of the back 3 are often used as 2nd FB roles anyway and add in his height too, he'll be sweet, his rise has been rapid, hopefully with more starts next year he'll progress even more.

                            Seems durable too, played every single minute for Northland this year.

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                            Bovidae
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                            #68

                            @taniwharugby

                            There will be some versatility in the Chiefs back three. Alaimalo and Stevenson could be interchangeable at fullback/wing and throw in one of Pulu and McNicol, the latter having played fullback too.

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                              Crucial
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                              #69

                              Pulu is a fullback as well. Played a whole season for CM in the 15 jersey. Is also a very good goal kicker.

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                Pulu is a fullback as well. Played a whole season for CM in the 15 jersey. Is also a very good goal kicker.

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                                taniwharugby
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                                #70

                                @crucial Alaimalos kicking game is something that was massively underused by us, more so when both our 10s don't have a long enough kicking game, and he showed he has a good long kicking game when needed.

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                                  #71

                                  Absolutely nothing wrong with a Chiefs back three of Stevenson, Alaimalo and McNicol.

                                  Gawd, I hate the Chiefs.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    Pulu is a fullback as well. Played a whole season for CM in the 15 jersey. Is also a very good goal kicker.

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    #72

                                    @crucial

                                    I thought Pulu had played fullback too but I wasn't 100% sure.

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                                      Stargazer
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                                      #73

                                      All game venues for the Chiefs' 2018 SR season have now been confirmed (from Chiefs' FB):

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                                        KiwiPie
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                                        #74

                                        7 in the Tron, 1 in Rotorua and zero for the Naki and C-M? Seems a bit narrow ....

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                                          7 in the Tron, 1 in Rotorua and zero for the Naki and C-M? Seems a bit narrow ....

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                                          #75

                                          @kiwipie Probably nowhere in Taranaki they can play at the moment (earthquake concerns).

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