Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV
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Ha, and this was before the game:
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I watched this game a bit sleepy , so missed a bit of detail ,
But don't remember much from Jules Savea , was half expecting the return of the bus as he tries to make a statement,
Could it be , that game did him more harm than good ?
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I watched this game a bit sleepy , so missed a bit of detail ,
But don't remember much from Jules Savea , was half expecting the return of the bus as he tries to make a statement,
Could it be , that game did him more harm than good ?
@kiwiinmelb said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Could it be , that game did him more harm than good ?
I think it did him no harm because his form this year isn't close to good enough for a return. It might have calmed down some boosters who suggest that his non-selection was a mistake, but I doubt the AB selectors are in that group.
Seta T looked better, and I would suggest he's only in the squad because so many outside backs are out.
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Savea SHOULD stand out in NPC, as should many of those near AB selection (Aumua, Goodhue, Duffie as the newbies all stood out)
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Thought we lacked control and composure at crucial times especially in the first half. Too keen to go wide early without doing the hard yards. The introduction of Cane and TKB improved this area.
Catch and Pass must be on the menu for this weeks learnings surely. The amount of dropped ball was ludicrous.
Naholo was good value, Romano worked hard and Laumape grabbed his chances. We worked better as a unit with Cane and TKB on the field.
We sure as hell better get a succession plan in place for halfback, as when TKB goes, I am not comfortable with the thought that TJ is second in line. Support play was fine but I'm sure he thought he was on a basketball court with those bloody loopy passes he was throwing for Luatua.
Thought Harris, Havili and Jules all comfortably played their way out. Was Kaino playing?
For the Baabaas Kiwis hopefuls, was impressed with Moli, Bridge (who outplayed Havili) and Luatua served up a timely 'don't you forget about me' reminder to Shag of what he still offers. Jury still out on Mounga who looked very good but went missing at times.
Bird and Whitelock did nothing outstanding, but were solid, and didn't do their chances any harm either.
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@kiwimurph thats the thing, he should be, but wasnt for most of the M10 cup, so was odd with some calls for him to be included in the AB EOYT squad.
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@kiwimurph said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Until the playoffs - Julian Savea wasnt standing out in Mitre 10 Cup either.
Did people watch the final? I remember him straight up just missing two bombs. We all know in international rugby strengths like speed, size and power are less relevant while weaknesses like being poor under the high ball or a low work rate are going to be spotlighted. I didn't see any evidence in the Mitre Ten Cup that Julian had sorted out the deficiencies in his game. The try he scored in the final, he would be unlikely to score in a tight test.
Julian Savea needed to take more ball at second receiver last night.
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@kiwimurph said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Until the playoffs - Julian Savea wasnt standing out in Mitre 10 Cup either.
Did people watch the final? I remember him straight up just missing two bombs. We all know in international rugby strengths like speed, size and power are less relevant while weaknesses like being poor under the high ball or a low work rate are going to be spotlighted. I didn't see any evidence in the Mitre Ten Cup that Julian had sorted out the deficiencies in his game. The try he scored in the final, he would be unlikely to score in a tight test.
Julian Savea needed to take more ball at second receiver last night.
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I honestly haven't come across anyone saying Savea should be in the squad for some time now.
@no-quarter I dont recall anyone here, but were some sections of our media that seemed surprised at his omission.
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BTW, I still think Jules is a fine option. Teams have just worked out how to defend against him and exploit his weaknesses. The main thing working against him is just that Naholo and Reiko Ioane are just better players now. Ioane doesn't always go looking for contact and seems to have no weaknesses. Naholo set up two tries which Savea couldn't have set up last night. I would rather have Savea on the wing than Tamanivalu. However, being the third best power winger in the country won't get you many starts, given we rarely need a power winger on the bench.
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I know it was a team made up of second (and in some cases third and forth) stringers but i was hoping for a bit more composure in this game.
It was the Baabaa's that looked like they were the team that had been together all season not us.This game really highlighted a bit of the deadwood that we are carrying at the moment.
Harris just isn't up to it IMO. Hoping Aumua can go past him on this tour.
ALB has been pretty rubbish this year. Not blaming it all on him but he is a contributing factor in the disjointed, stuttering backline. Hopefully Goodhue is an upgrade.
I don't really rate Havili but given we are missing about 50 fullbacks there isn't much we can do there.
Fifita really needs to work on finding his support. He bombed a near certain try by trying to do it all himself.
Pity Duffie didn't get on earlier. Don't think he touched the ball.
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Smith MOTM head and shoulders. Continued his good Super Rugby form
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I know it was a team made up of second (and in some cases third and forth) stringers but i was hoping for a bit more composure in this game.
It was the Baabaa's that looked like they were the team that had been together all season not us.This game really highlighted a bit of the deadwood that we are carrying at the moment.
Harris just isn't up to it IMO. Hoping Aumua can go past him on this tour.
ALB has been pretty rubbish this year. Not blaming it all on him but he is a contributing factor in the disjointed, stuttering backline. Hopefully Goodhue is an upgrade.
I don't really rate Havili but given we are missing about 50 fullbacks there isn't much we can do there.
Fifita really needs to work on finding his support. He bombed a near certain try by trying to do it all himself.
Pity Duffie didn't get on earlier. Don't think he touched the ball.
@pukunui said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
It was the Baabaa's that looked like they were the team that had been together all season not us.
Yup, they looked well coached too, well done Robbie! Although he did have Crusaders experience which seems to fit nicely with the players selected!
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I enjoyed the game. Thought Naholo really stood out. Speed, power and always contesting for the ball. Laumape also looking great. Have concerns over Kaino, mayve this is his last tour. B Barrett also doesn't look quite right but Sopoanga isn't exactly beating the door down either. Thought Tamanivalu was woeful in the first half, would have loved to see the bus in his place. He got a lot better in the 2nd however, just doesn't seem to have that ability to beat a man that Naholo, Ioane and what the Bus used to have, but I guess being able to cover centre puts him firmy ahead of Jules.
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I enjoyed the game. Thought Naholo really stood out. Speed, power and always contesting for the ball. Laumape also looking great. Have concerns over Kaino, mayve this is his last tour. B Barrett also doesn't look quite right but Sopoanga isn't exactly beating the door down either. Thought Tamanivalu was woeful in the first half, would have loved to see the bus in his place. He got a lot better in the 2nd however, just doesn't seem to have that ability to beat a man that Naholo, Ioane and what the Bus used to have, but I guess being able to cover centre puts him firmy ahead of Jules.
@rembrandt it would be nice to have a bit of linebreaking power back in the midfield..I thought that was Laumape's job but perhaps he needs support
