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Exodus 2018

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  • WurzelW Wurzel

    Not many move in the season leading into the WC, so a player willing to jump ship can command more. And given that Dom is in a shootout with Paddy T for the fourth AB locking spot for the RWC then you can see his rationale. Add in that Fifita might be picked as a fourth lock in Hansen's RWC squad and the decision becomes even easier.

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    @wurzel said in Exodus 2018:

    Not many move in the season leading into the WC, so a player willing to jump ship can command more. And given that Dom is in a shootout with Paddy T for the fourth AB locking spot for the RWC then you can see his rationale. Add in that Fifita might be picked as a fourth lock in Hansen's RWC squad and the decision becomes even easier.

    You mean fifth? Or have you omitted Retallick due to his absence? Both are behind him and Whitelock, Barrett and Romano.

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      Apologies. Fifth.

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      • J jauzy019

        Should be a quiet market one year before the RWC.

        Lock Dominic Bird (Chiefs) will join french club Racing 92 for the 2018-2019 season.

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        @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2018:

        Should be a quiet market one year before the RWC.

        Lock Dominic Bird (Chiefs) will join french club Racing 92 for the 2018-2019 season.

        Has this been confirmed yet?

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2018:

          Should be a quiet market one year before the RWC.

          Lock Dominic Bird (Chiefs) will join french club Racing 92 for the 2018-2019 season.

          Has this been confirmed yet?

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          @crazy-horse said in Exodus 2018:

          @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2018:

          Should be a quiet market one year before the RWC.

          Lock Dominic Bird (Chiefs) will join french club Racing 92 for the 2018-2019 season.

          Has this been confirmed yet?

          Nothing on their website or social media accounts, yet.

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            It's in the rumour stages

            http://www.lerugbynistere.fr/news/transferts-top-14-un-nouvel-all-black-sur-le-point-de-rejoindre-le-racing-92-1411171051.php

            In French "Selon le Midol, il aurait décidé de rejoindre la France à l’issue de la saison en cours pour un contrat de deux ans", indicates supposition and not fact - ie Midol claims he has decided to join Racing, but we can't confirm this.

            A lot of what Jauzy says is true, but not all. I remember the David Havili to French club rumour last season - David has subsequently signed a prolonged contract with the NZRFU for example.

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              It's in the rumour stages

              http://www.lerugbynistere.fr/news/transferts-top-14-un-nouvel-all-black-sur-le-point-de-rejoindre-le-racing-92-1411171051.php

              In French "Selon le Midol, il aurait décidé de rejoindre la France à l’issue de la saison en cours pour un contrat de deux ans", indicates supposition and not fact - ie Midol claims he has decided to join Racing, but we can't confirm this.

              A lot of what Jauzy says is true, but not all. I remember the David Havili to French club rumour last season - David has subsequently signed a prolonged contract with the NZRFU for example.

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              @billy-tell If I were the NZRFU I'd be making serious efforts to convince him to stay.

              IMO if Sam W were to be badly crocked Bird would be close to the best alternative. Romero and Pat T are power locks, and Scott Barrett is still raw, and probably a tad small to step into Sam's shoes.

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              • P pakman

                @billy-tell If I were the NZRFU I'd be making serious efforts to convince him to stay.

                IMO if Sam W were to be badly crocked Bird would be close to the best alternative. Romero and Pat T are power locks, and Scott Barrett is still raw, and probably a tad small to step into Sam's shoes.

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                @pakman said in Exodus 2018:

                @billy-tell If I were the NZRFU I'd be making serious efforts to convince him to stay.

                IMO if Sam W were to be badly crocked Bird would be close to the best alternative. Romero and Pat T are power locks, and Scott Barrett is still raw, and probably a tad small to step into Sam's shoes.

                That said, I suppose BBBR would then be very much a picked as a 5.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  @jauzy019 said in Exodus 2018:

                  Should be a quiet market one year before the RWC.

                  Lock Dominic Bird (Chiefs) will join french club Racing 92 for the 2018-2019 season.

                  Has this been confirmed yet?

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                  @crazy-horse
                  Never known @jauzy019 to be wrong.

                  He is the fern harbinger of doom, albeit a very likeable one

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                    Exodus 2017:

                    Confirmed: Stephen Donald has signed with Toshiba Brave Lupus in Japan. Unsure whether it's just for the 2017-2018 season or for longer.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Exodus 2017:

                      Confirmed: Stephen Donald has signed with Toshiba Brave Lupus in Japan. Unsure whether it's just for the 2017-2018 season or for longer.

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                      @stargazer

                      Excellent. They’re kind of my team (I’ve recently also been supporting Kubota a bit too). During the season, I’ll try to head along to a game and give a report - although I should mention that the last game had free flow Champagne and a bento box from a Michelin started restaurant and as a result I can't even tell you what team Kubota was playing 🙂

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                        Shields buzzing off to Wasps: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11945394

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                          At best he's been the seventh [1] highest rated 6 or 8 in NZ, so the AB's can't complain too much if he decides he'll have a better career overseas.

                          [1] Currently he's behind Read, Kaino, Squire, Fifita, Ioane, and Whitelock.

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                            @rocky-rockbottom Agreed. He joins a list of players in a similar boat - Bundee Aki, Steven Luatua, Hadleigh Parkes.....

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                              Seems an odd article really. ABS had Whitelock and Akira over yet they supposedly called up Shields and unsurprisingly he knocked them back with one eye on an England jersey

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                                Just to be clear, if true, he'd be leaving after the 2018 SR season.

                                @tim said in Exodus 2017:

                                At best he's been the seventh [1] highest rated 6 or 8 in NZ, so the AB's can't complain too much if he decides he'll have a better career overseas.

                                [1] Currently he's behind Read, Kaino, Squire, Fifita, Ioane, and Whitelock.

                                According to some of the media, he was asked to join the AB squad and Whitelock was only called in after Shields refused.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @rocky-rockbottom Agreed. He joins a list of players in a similar boat - Bundee Aki, Steven Luatua, Hadleigh Parkes.....

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                                  @kiwimurph said in Exodus 2017:

                                  @rocky-rockbottom Agreed. He joins a list of players in a similar boat - Bundee Aki, Steven Luatua, Hadleigh Parkes.....

                                  Not in same boat as Luatua, who has been capped.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Just to be clear, if true, he'd be leaving after the 2018 SR season.

                                    @tim said in Exodus 2017:

                                    At best he's been the seventh [1] highest rated 6 or 8 in NZ, so the AB's can't complain too much if he decides he'll have a better career overseas.

                                    [1] Currently he's behind Read, Kaino, Squire, Fifita, Ioane, and Whitelock.

                                    According to some of the media, he was asked to join the AB squad and Whitelock was only called in after Shields refused.

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                                    @stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                                    Just to be clear, if true, he'd be leaving after the 2018 SR season.

                                    @tim said in Exodus 2017:

                                    At best he's been the seventh [1] highest rated 6 or 8 in NZ, so the AB's can't complain too much if he decides he'll have a better career overseas.

                                    [1] Currently he's behind Read, Kaino, Squire, Fifita, Ioane, and Whitelock.

                                    According to some of the media, he was asked to join the AB squad and Whitelock was only called in after Shields refused.

                                    Makes it more bizarre really...so Whitelock was that far down the list yet still made captain?

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                                      Just to be clear, if true, he'd be leaving after the 2018 SR season.

                                      @tim said in Exodus 2017:

                                      At best he's been the seventh [1] highest rated 6 or 8 in NZ, so the AB's can't complain too much if he decides he'll have a better career overseas.

                                      [1] Currently he's behind Read, Kaino, Squire, Fifita, Ioane, and Whitelock.

                                      According to some of the media, he was asked to join the AB squad and Whitelock was only called in after Shields refused.

                                      Makes it more bizarre really...so Whitelock was that far down the list yet still made captain?

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                                      @taniwharugby Yeah, it's all a bit weird. You have take what the media says with a lot more than a pinch of salt these days. Maybe they didn't get enough clicks this week.

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                                        Oh, hey wait, this all comes from an article in the Daily Telegraph.
                                        The NZ media just added a few "details".

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                                          Damn, that's brave to turn down an AB jersey. I reckon even after 50 caps with England he'd still regret not being an AB. But I guess it's good to know you were in line for one.

                                          @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2017:

                                          @stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

                                          Just to be clear, if true, he'd be leaving after the 2018 SR season.

                                          @tim said in Exodus 2017:

                                          At best he's been the seventh [1] highest rated 6 or 8 in NZ, so the AB's can't complain too much if he decides he'll have a better career overseas.

                                          [1] Currently he's behind Read, Kaino, Squire, Fifita, Ioane, and Whitelock.

                                          According to some of the media, he was asked to join the AB squad and Whitelock was only called in after Shields refused.

                                          Makes it more bizarre really...so Whitelock was that far down the list yet still made captain?

                                          Tour match captain isn't really relevant to where a player sits in the pecking order really. From how Hansen says it he was just the best option for captain at the time.

                                          Damn, Shields may have missed out on being AB captain as well.

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