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Exodus 2018

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  • raznomoreR Offline
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    Big Shields fan, even though he's a Taita boy. This is a business decision made with the rest of his life in mind. Good for him.

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      Plenty of stuff in the media about Brad Shields heading to England.

      Stokes Valley contact of mine tells me his parents have moved back to England and it is all pretty much a done deal.

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        Oh, hey wait, this all comes from an article in the Daily Telegraph.
        The NZ media just added a few "details".

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        @stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

        Oh, hey wait, this all comes from an article in the Daily Telegraph.
        The NZ media just added a few "details".

        An unsubstantiated piece from two halfwit journalists. One of whom penned about how Ben May is faster than Usain Bolt. I shit you not.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          Damn, that's brave to turn down an AB jersey. I reckon even after 50 caps with England he'd still regret not being an AB. But I guess it's good to know you were in line for one.

          @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2017:

          @stargazer said in Exodus 2017:

          Just to be clear, if true, he'd be leaving after the 2018 SR season.

          @tim said in Exodus 2017:

          At best he's been the seventh [1] highest rated 6 or 8 in NZ, so the AB's can't complain too much if he decides he'll have a better career overseas.

          [1] Currently he's behind Read, Kaino, Squire, Fifita, Ioane, and Whitelock.

          According to some of the media, he was asked to join the AB squad and Whitelock was only called in after Shields refused.

          Makes it more bizarre really...so Whitelock was that far down the list yet still made captain?

          Tour match captain isn't really relevant to where a player sits in the pecking order really. From how Hansen says it he was just the best option for captain at the time.

          Damn, Shields may have missed out on being AB captain as well.

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          @nepia still a small number of players that get to captain The All Blacks.

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            Plenty of stuff in the media about Brad Shields heading to England.

            Stokes Valley contact of mine tells me his parents have moved back to England and it is all pretty much a done deal.

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            #30

            @rugger-quizzes Interesting. The articles posted contain so much clickbait material that you wouldn't know what's true or not true. Considering that Brad Shields and his partner have just become parents themselves, it wouldn't be strange if they'd be looking to settle close the Brad's folks either if he is looking to play overseas. He'll never be an AB regular anyway, so good on him if he wants to move, whether it's to be close to his parents, for the $$ or a chance in the England jersey.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @nepia still a small number of players that get to captain The All Blacks.

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              @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2017:

              @nepia still a small number of players that get to captain The All Blacks.

              One of them is named John Mitchell - it aint that exclusive a club for the midweek teams. 😉

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2017:

                @nepia still a small number of players that get to captain The All Blacks.

                One of them is named John Mitchell - it aint that exclusive a club for the midweek teams. 😉

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                @nepia how many games you Captain? 😉

                Still pretty exclusive in my book!

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                  By my reading Shields hasn't actually signed a NH contract yet? Savvy call by him, if he plays a game for the ABs as an injury fill in then never gets another shot he's no chance to play test rugby for anyone else. He appears to be far down the pecking order and this is a real possibility. Shame all the same

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                  • chimoausC Offline
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                    #34

                    Probably the first time Shag has been turned down in awhile, excluding the missus of course.

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                      My issue is Super Rugby players who are not available for NZ. There will always be some but ...

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                        #36

                        The article keeps saying how "furious" the ABs are about it but never provides any evidence or quotes to back that up. Such clickbait bullshit.

                        Shields is a loss at TRC/Super level but is not really AB standard, far too inconsistent and has a pair of tits where his hands are meant to be. Good luck to him in England.

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                          Very similar to Thomas Waldrom going. A good player at lower levels but no great loss to AB depth

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            The article keeps saying how "furious" the ABs are about it but never provides any evidence or quotes to back that up. Such clickbait bullshit.

                            Shields is a loss at TRC/Super level but is not really AB standard, far too inconsistent and has a pair of tits where his hands are meant to be. Good luck to him in England.

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                            @no-quarter I think his best year was 2016, at times he was outstanding, especially on defence in the last few games.

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                              #39

                              I can’t argue with his decision, but if that’s what it is (it’s not actually confirmed) then I’d ask him to negotiate his overseas contract now and piss off before super rugby. We don’t need another player taking up a development opportunity and I don’t see why NZ should be paying to develop an England player.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @no-quarter I think his best year was 2016, at times he was outstanding, especially on defence in the last few games.

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                                @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2018:

                                @no-quarter I think his best year was 2016, at times he was outstanding, especially on defence in the last few games.

                                If he didnt have tits for hands, he wouldve been ahead of guys like fifita and squire..

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                                  It looks like Stephen Donald has already played his first game for Toshiba today! Familiar looking team mates 😉

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    It looks like Stephen Donald has already played his first game for Toshiba today! Familiar looking team mates 😉

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                                    Kahui is still playing?

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      It looks like Stephen Donald has already played his first game for Toshiba today! Familiar looking team mates 😉

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                                      @stargazer said in Exodus 2018:

                                      It looks like Stephen Donald has already played his first game for Toshiba today! Familiar looking team mates 😉

                                      Surprised Toshiba team still in existence given the troubles of their parent company. No surprises though Beaver went there though given his mates in the team.

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                                        Official for Brad Shields to Wasps : http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/article/2017/11/19/brad-shields-to-join-wasps-in-2018-19-season

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                                          #45

                                          its guys like Shields that erode our rugby more than AB regulars.

                                          Very good Super rugby players that will likely only play limited role in the ABs are always able to contribute so much to their franchise and province.

                                          edit - according to Veitch, there was no approach by NZR for him to play in France last week.

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