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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    Question - where on Cricinfo do you click to find the summary of career records of everyone playing in the match? In the old format it used to be linked to the match card under "statistics".

    Supplementary question - why do web designers feel the need to update perfectly functional formats and, particularly, why do they then fuck them up?

    It's like Cricinfo decided to hire the team who brought you Windows 8!

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    @chris-b Because what else would designers do if they didn't keep changing things?

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      Question - where on Cricinfo do you click to find the summary of career records of everyone playing in the match? In the old format it used to be linked to the match card under "statistics".

      Supplementary question - why do web designers feel the need to update perfectly functional formats and, particularly, why do they then fuck them up?

      It's like Cricinfo decided to hire the team who brought you Windows 8!

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      @chris-b and just put the fucking scorecard on one page without an upside down fucking v for each innings!

      Ficking nerds

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @chris-b Because what else would designers do if they didn't keep changing things?

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        @antipodean That's the sort of question that tripped up Harvey Weinstein! 🙂

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          Crushing 10 wicket win in the end, but England weren't that far off. They certainly had the upper hand at various stages of the match. If Root went big in their second innings, as we know he can, then England are in the box seat and the pressure is all on Aus.

          Both teams have a heavy reliance on 2 - 3 players, and as @Virgil says in this test Aussies big guns fired. Bancroft getting 80 not out and some confidence at this level is a pretty big negative for England though - they really needed to take at least a couple of wickets in the final innings.

          Also, Anderson will go from being very classy to world beater with the pink ball - he will be nigh on unplayable with it hooping around. That will give England a decent shout in that test at least.

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            Lyon is a big difference. The others sort of cacel each other out but with NATHAN you can rest a quick and rotate them around him. The poms will have to get after him

            However, the angry lesbian is on another planet. What an innings that was!

            These may be called the Smith ashes

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            • SiamS Siam

              Lyon is a big difference. The others sort of cacel each other out but with NATHAN you can rest a quick and rotate them around him. The poms will have to get after him

              However, the angry lesbian is on another planet. What an innings that was!

              These may be called the Smith ashes

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              @siam said in The Ashes:

              Lyon is a big difference. The others sort of cacel each other out but with NATHAN you can rest a quick and rotate them around him. The poms will have to get after him

              However, the angry lesbian is on another planet. What an innings that was!

              These may be called the Smith ashes

              Hahahaha. 'Angry Lesbian'.

              So fitting.

              But fuck he's a good player

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                A pommie mate of mine who is a cricket tragic has already wheeled out the excuse "it's not proper cricket with a Kookaburra ball". Usually that comes out after 2-3 tests in Oz...

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @siam said in The Ashes:

                  Lyon is a big difference. The others sort of cacel each other out but with NATHAN you can rest a quick and rotate them around him. The poms will have to get after him

                  However, the angry lesbian is on another planet. What an innings that was!

                  These may be called the Smith ashes

                  Hahahaha. 'Angry Lesbian'.

                  So fitting.

                  But fuck he's a good player

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                  @mn5 said in The Ashes:

                  But fuck he's a good player

                  Isn't he just? Terrific batter with the spine of Steve Waugh. If he had more talented players, Australia would enjoy another golden period.

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                    Smith is rewriting test batting. Why play in the v when you can bat like it's the back yard and average 60? Guck he's fun to watch. And unflappable as well. The poms bowled out of his areas for ages so he just waited. What a career turnaround

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      Smith is rewriting test batting. Why play in the v when you can bat like it's the back yard and average 60? Guck he's fun to watch. And unflappable as well. The poms bowled out of his areas for ages so he just waited. What a career turnaround

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                      @mariner4life said in The Ashes:

                      Smith is rewriting test batting. Why play in the v when you can bat like it's the back yard and average 60? Guck he's fun to watch. And unflappable as well. The poms bowled out of his areas for ages so he just waited. What a career turnaround

                      Best batsman in the world. No doubt.

                      Still looks like a dick with the headband though.

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                        Of the batsmen who have played most of their team's tests in the calendar years 2016 and 2017

                        Kohli 21 tests, average 70.75, 8x100s
                        Smith 19 tests, average 68.60, 8x100s
                        Pujara 21 tests, average 63.46, 7x100s
                        Taylor 12 tests, average 61.38, 3x100s
                        Williamson 15 tests, average 55.50, 4x100s
                        {then Faf, Azhar Ali, Rahul)
                        Root 25 tests, average 51.63, 5x100s

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @mariner4life said in The Ashes:

                          Smith is rewriting test batting. Why play in the v when you can bat like it's the back yard and average 60? Guck he's fun to watch. And unflappable as well. The poms bowled out of his areas for ages so he just waited. What a career turnaround

                          Best batsman in the world. No doubt.

                          Still looks like a dick with the headband though.

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                          @mn5 said in The Ashes:

                          Still looks like a dick with the headband though.

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                            On the other hand:

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                              And finally:

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                                #79

                                For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                
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                                  For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                  https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                  They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                  But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                  Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                  
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                                  @nta did they talk about how all of the Indians were able to inflate their batting averages by playing at home on roads and generally didn't do nearly so well abroad surprise surprise?

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @nta did they talk about how all of the Indians were able to inflate their batting averages by playing at home on roads and generally didn't do nearly so well abroad surprise surprise?

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                                    @canefan No, funnily enough Anil Kumble is not remembered as the guy with an average ~40 away from home and ~20 at home; he is, instead, the premier Match Winner for Indian cricket.

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                      https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                      They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                      But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                      Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                      
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                                      @nta said in The Ashes:

                                      For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                      https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                      They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                      But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                      Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                      

                                      Absolute horseshit. Bradman is THE most dominant individual in any sport. The only player who could touch him would be a bowler averaging 10 per wicket or an All rounder averaging 20 and 50 respectively. To have a go at his average and claiming it was down to the era he played is insulting to a genuine great like Walter Hammond who averaged 'only' 58 during the same period.

                                      Fuck Indians are stupidly myopic. I remember an article claiming Tendulkar was better than him. I'd argue he wasn't even the best batsman of his generation let alone being close to the Don.

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @nta said in The Ashes:

                                        For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                        https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                        They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                        But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                        Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                        

                                        Absolute horseshit. Bradman is THE most dominant individual in any sport. The only player who could touch him would be a bowler averaging 10 per wicket or an All rounder averaging 20 and 50 respectively. To have a go at his average and claiming it was down to the era he played is insulting to a genuine great like Walter Hammond who averaged 'only' 58 during the same period.

                                        Fuck Indians are stupidly myopic. I remember an article claiming Tendulkar was better than him. I'd argue he wasn't even the best batsman of his generation let alone being close to the Don.

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                                        @mn5 said in The Ashes:

                                        @nta said in The Ashes:

                                        For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                        https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                        They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                        But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                        Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                        

                                        Absolute horseshit. Bradman is THE most dominant individual in any sport. The only player who could touch him would be a bowler averaging 10 per wicket or an All rounder averaging 20 and 50 respectively. To have a go at his average and claiming it was down to the era he played is insulting to a genuine great like Walter Hammond who averaged 'only' 58 during the same period.

                                        Fuck Indians are stupidly myopic. I remember an article claiming Tendulkar was better than him. I'd argue he wasn't even the best batsman of his generation let alone being close to the Don.

                                        You know if you discard Crowe’s first 7 tests and his last 5 his average...

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                                        • V Virgil

                                          @mn5 said in The Ashes:

                                          @nta said in The Ashes:

                                          For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                          https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                          They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                          But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                          Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                          

                                          Absolute horseshit. Bradman is THE most dominant individual in any sport. The only player who could touch him would be a bowler averaging 10 per wicket or an All rounder averaging 20 and 50 respectively. To have a go at his average and claiming it was down to the era he played is insulting to a genuine great like Walter Hammond who averaged 'only' 58 during the same period.

                                          Fuck Indians are stupidly myopic. I remember an article claiming Tendulkar was better than him. I'd argue he wasn't even the best batsman of his generation let alone being close to the Don.

                                          You know if you discard Crowe’s first 7 tests and his last 5 his average...

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                                          @virgil said in The Ashes:

                                          @mn5 said in The Ashes:

                                          @nta said in The Ashes:

                                          For @MN5 's interest - that pic of Crowe was from an article discussing over/under rated cricketers:

                                          https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-most-overrated-underrated-cricketer-of-all-time-Underrated-meaning-to-underestimate-the-extent-of-importance-or-value-of-something-or-somebody#!n=36

                                          They get to a section on how Crowe, Fleming, and Paddles were all generally underrated because they were New Zealanders.

                                          But I highlight that article because its a screaming subcontinental orgy of hometown worship, kicking off with this gem:

                                          Overrated : Donald Bradman - By far the most overrated cricketer because although his average was impressive, he played most of his matches against the same team in an era when international cricket was still in its infancy. It is not possible to replicate his average nowadays because the game has become much more professional and harder, there have been numerous players who have in many ways surpassed his records yet some still claim he is better.
                                          

                                          Absolute horseshit. Bradman is THE most dominant individual in any sport. The only player who could touch him would be a bowler averaging 10 per wicket or an All rounder averaging 20 and 50 respectively. To have a go at his average and claiming it was down to the era he played is insulting to a genuine great like Walter Hammond who averaged 'only' 58 during the same period.

                                          Fuck Indians are stupidly myopic. I remember an article claiming Tendulkar was better than him. I'd argue he wasn't even the best batsman of his generation let alone being close to the Don.

                                          You know if you discard Crowe’s first 7 tests and his last 5 his average...

                                          Does the fern still have a broken record award?

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