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  • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

    Crying Eli. Giants start their long rebuild by ending the Eli Manning era.

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    Denver and Jacksonville will be calling, texting, facebooking, tweeting, instagraming, morse-coding the NY Giants front office hard.

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    @sneakdefreak he should be glad to leave that dumpster fire

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      meh.. no sympathy from me.. always thought he was a bit of a dick in the draft..

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        meh.. no sympathy from me.. always thought he was a bit of a dick in the draft..

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        @mimic said in NFL 2017:

        meh.. no sympathy from me.. always thought he was a bit of a dick in the draft..

        Who did he turn down again? Not even the first guy to do that. Jim Kelly went to the USFL rather than go to the Bills (He went there eventually I know) and John Elway threatened to go to MLB

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          Chargers.. ended up doing a swap for Rivers and some other picks i think..
          Yeah, not a fan of Elway either.. quietly happy that the broncos are shit at the moment

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            Chargers.. ended up doing a swap for Rivers and some other picks i think..
            Yeah, not a fan of Elway either.. quietly happy that the broncos are shit at the moment

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            @mimic He was right to say no to the Chargers, they were a mess back then. I wouldn't have a problem if the number one QB in this year's draft says no to the Browns.

            That 2004 NFL draft is pretty impressive when you the players from that draft. Big Ben went number 11.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NFL_Draft

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              and the big news in 49er land - Jimmy Garoppolo named starting QB for this week v the Bears.

              Will be fascinating to watch.

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                and the big news in 49er land - Jimmy Garoppolo named starting QB for this week v the Bears.

                Will be fascinating to watch.

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                @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                and the big news in 49er land - Jimmy Garoppolo named starting QB for this week v the Bears.

                Will be fascinating to watch.

                His O line will offer him maginot level protection so we should see how he handles getting flushed out of the pocket and how he takes sacks

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                  @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                  and the big news in 49er land - Jimmy Garoppolo named starting QB for this week v the Bears.

                  Will be fascinating to watch.

                  His O line will offer him maginot level protection so we should see how he handles getting flushed out of the pocket and how he takes sacks

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                  @canefan Garoppolo's super quick release and better pocket presence will help.

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                    Garoppolo certainly delivered - driving the 49ers all the way down the field for the game winning field goal.

                    He was very impressive - 49ers fans have something to be excited about with this guy.

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                      Denver are fucking trash. Which is hardly surprising, given our Quarterback last year was substandard, and we signed an absolute bust as his backup. What's Shane Falco doing?

                      Even the defense is cooked now, after approx 6 years of carrying the team. It's rebuild time.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                        and the big news in 49er land - Jimmy Garoppolo named starting QB for this week v the Bears.

                        Will be fascinating to watch.

                        His O line will offer him maginot level protection so we should see how he handles getting flushed out of the pocket and how he takes sacks

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                        @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                        His O line will offer him maginot level protection so we should see how he handles getting flushed out of the pocket and how he takes sacks

                        Watched a bit of the Eagles Bears game. Bears were terrible, but the protection for Wentz was insanely good. Armchair ride. Haven't seen them against tough opposition, but they are playing really well at the moment.

                        Things I hate to hear in commentary: he's north dakota tough.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Denver are fucking trash. Which is hardly surprising, given our Quarterback last year was substandard, and we signed an absolute bust as his backup. What's Shane Falco doing?

                          Even the defense is cooked now, after approx 6 years of carrying the team. It's rebuild time.

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                          @mariner4life said in NFL 2017:

                          Denver are fucking trash. Which is hardly surprising, given our Quarterback last year was substandard, and we signed an absolute bust as his backup. What's Shane Falco doing?

                          Even the defense is cooked now, after approx 6 years of carrying the team. It's rebuild time.

                          At least you have a Vince Lombardi trophy to show for it

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                            @mariner4life said in NFL 2017:

                            Denver are fucking trash. Which is hardly surprising, given our Quarterback last year was substandard, and we signed an absolute bust as his backup. What's Shane Falco doing?

                            Even the defense is cooked now, after approx 6 years of carrying the team. It's rebuild time.

                            At least you have a Vince Lombardi trophy to show for it

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                            @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                            @mariner4life said in NFL 2017:

                            Denver are fucking trash. Which is hardly surprising, given our Quarterback last year was substandard, and we signed an absolute bust as his backup. What's Shane Falco doing?

                            Even the defense is cooked now, after approx 6 years of carrying the team. It's rebuild time.

                            At least you have a Vince Lombardi trophy to show for it

                            it was a nice little run, couple of Superbowls, one championship, but the front office keeps making decisions like we are a contender. It's clear we are not. Some parts have been rebuilt already, but now the rest needs an overhaul. No shame in that at all, but it's the natural cycle. Well, for everyone except those fluffybunnies in New England. In simpler times Brady would be burnt for witchcraft

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                              I think Denver can put something together again but they need a starting QB. Once teams clicked the Broncos didn't have a QB they just focused on stopping the running game (Denver's true offensive weapon).

                              Lynch, Osweiler and Siemien would all be third-stringers on any other team. Osweiler couldn't even start with the Cleveland Browns! 😆

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                              • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                                I think Denver can put something together again but they need a starting QB. Once teams clicked the Broncos didn't have a QB they just focused on stopping the running game (Denver's true offensive weapon).

                                Lynch, Osweiler and Siemien would all be third-stringers on any other team. Osweiler couldn't even start with the Cleveland Browns! 😆

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                                @sneakdefreak maybe they'll be able to snaffle Cousins from Washington, who seem intent on chasing him away

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                                  Predictably the coach and GM are fired at the Giants, Eli Manning is rumoured to be starting again. McAdoo was an idiot and got what was coming to him, the last straw was his handling of the Manning benching

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                                    Russel Wilson should be the current favourite for MVP after that win against the Eagles. He's got no oline, no run game, not much in terms of receiver talent outside of Baldwin and Graham, but is still putting up some big numbers.

                                    The Vikings were my dark horse team to make the Superbowl, and they're now sitting at the top of the NFC. Not sure they can get past teams like Seattle or the Saints in the playoffs, who both have elite QBs, but they've done well to get to where they are with Keenum at the helm.

                                    It's crazy how bad the Chiefs have gotten. They've now lost 6 of their last 7 games.

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                                      Just a bit from an article by The Ringer about Wilson.

                                      *He is on pace to shatter the NFL record for percentage of yards accrued by a single player in an offense, currently at a staggering 85.7 percent. For every 10 Seattle yards, Wilson is responsible for 8.5. Wilson has 432 rushing yards on the season, more than double anyone else on the roster. (The only other Seahawk to crack 200 yards is Chris Carson, who has been on IR since Week 4.) Seattle’s offensive line is among the worst run-blocking groups in the league, rated 28th by Football Outsiders entering the week, and the Seahawks have to rely on Wilson doing everything himself.

                                      And it’s not like Seattle’s pass-blocking is much better. The team is tied for 26th in pass-blocking efficiency, according to Pro Football Focus, and they’ve allowed 122 hurries this season, second-most in the league. Meanwhile, Philadelphia protects Wentz with the sixth-most efficient group in football, and the 67 hurries they’ve allowed are the second-fewest in the league.*

                                      https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/12/4/16732728/russell-wilson-mvp-seattle-seahawks-philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz

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                                        How bout the AFC West, we all knew it was going to be tough to find a winner, but I don't think people expected them to have 3 teams on 6 wins and 6 losses.

                                        I think someone mentioned that the Eagles have only beaten 1 team with a winning record.

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                                          Aaron Rodgers is on track to come back for Green Bay but you have to think it's a lost season now. Minnesota will win the NFC North while the losers of Saints/Panthers and Rams/Seahawks will claim the NFC wildcard spots.

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