Tennis
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It's true. I don't know where it comes from but an article I read (sorry can't specify source because I've forgotten) that part of the contention is the fact that the gurls are paid the same. Could be wrong
If the argument was about pay equality (which I believe it originally was) then I'd be irritated too given they don't do the same amount of work (men play up to five sets). But in a professional arena, the organisers may feel that the women's tournament provides the same value.
@antipodean said in Tennis:
It's true. I don't know where it comes from but an article I read (sorry can't specify source because I've forgotten) that part of the contention is the fact that the gurls are paid the same. Could be wrong
If the argument was about pay equality (which I believe it originally was) then I'd be irritated too given they don't do the same amount of work (men play up to five sets). But in a professional arena, the organisers may feel that the women's tournament provides the same value.
Yeah, it's a tricky one because the amount of sets played is not the only metric. I don't know whether women's tennis is on a marketability par with men's tennis, but it is certainly less clear than say golf or other major sports
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It's true. I don't know where it comes from but an article I read (sorry can't specify source because I've forgotten) that part of the contention is the fact that the gurls are paid the same. Could be wrong
If the argument was about pay equality (which I believe it originally was) then I'd be irritated too given they don't do the same amount of work (men play up to five sets). But in a professional arena, the organisers may feel that the women's tournament provides the same value.
@antipodean said in Tennis:
If the argument was about pay equality (which I believe it originally was) then I'd be irritated too given they don't do the same amount of work (men play up to five sets). But in a professional arena, the organisers may feel that the women's tournament provides the same value.
I think they'd get laughed out of "court" on the first one. That article says Federer has collected nearly a billion dollars - which has virtually zero to do with the "amount of work" he's put in. On the basis of "work done" male tennis players are vastly overpaid compared to almost every segment of society except female tennis players, golfers and footballers of several varieties.
On the second one, aside from the big match-ups, I'd generally rather watch women's tennis.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Tennis:
come to think of it why is it so stupidly quiet at the tennis? another posh holdover from the empire nonsense. fuck it, bark your nuts off during points, have a soccer sing-a-long, some chanting, turn it into a roaring atmospheric cauldron, might even exhort the players on to greater deeds. It's not snooker. The players are just running around outside smashing a ball as hard as they can, not parsing cock valves to aortas in open heart surgery.
although this brilliant idea might fall apart in quietish lulls between the noise when someone abruptly screams "CUUUNT!" during the service action and the poor bastard goes to pieces. Maybe nick the rugby tenet, respect the kicker, respect the server. Once the ball's in play it's all on
I was listening to Australian Open Radio the other day, even the commentators were saying how archaic it was to be so quiet.
They noted that there was an unsanctioned tournament in the US, where you can actually make as much noise as you want. I thought it was a Billie Jean King one, but I can't find any reference to it online. Apparently the players get used to it quickly. Much like that 'respect the kicker' bollocks in the Northern Hemisphere.
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@chris-b I reckon if he turns his behaviour around it won't take long for him to win the public over. Despite all his faults there seems to be a charismatic side to him.
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@chris-b I reckon if he turns his behaviour around it won't take long for him to win the public over. Despite all his faults there seems to be a charismatic side to him.
@crazy-horse The more forgiving members of the public. Will take him a long time to win me over.
Let's see how he goes on sustaining this "new leaf".
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@rocky-rockbottom Can serve like a Mofo, though.
I guess there's a bit of Goran Ivanisovic about him - huge serve that others struggle to break, but against the best players he struggles to break them. So - plenty of tiebreakers - I think three vs Tsonga and three vs Dimitrov.
p.s. I hear he wasn't thrilled about his racquet strings!
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Hve you guys never seen tennis from the Foro Italico. Its a bear pit. The Rome crowd go ape shit - even during the serves.
It may have changed since I used to watch it as currently there's really no home contenders but back in the day despite complaints every top player used to compete - noise and crowd behaviour notwithstanding
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Tennis:
In summary, he is still total mental retardation. He held it together until 5-5- in the 1st set then abruptly starts barking at the fucking moon. Or, in this case, his players box. They exchange petrified glances. WFT did we do? Oh shit, it dawns on them, our meal ticket is about to go off the reservation. Again.
I watched every game of his and almost every set had one of these 'oh god he's going to lose it' moments. And yet... he never did.
He's definitely matured, though obviously still a mental case. The way he hung tough against Dimitrov and won a tight one against Tsonga gives me hope for the future. Those were two games that would have turned out very differently just a year ago.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Tennis:
In summary, he is still total mental retardation. He held it together until 5-5- in the 1st set then abruptly starts barking at the fucking moon. Or, in this case, his players box. They exchange petrified glances. WFT did we do? Oh shit, it dawns on them, our meal ticket is about to go off the reservation. Again.
I watched every game of his and almost every set had one of these 'oh god he's going to lose it' moments. And yet... he never did.
He's definitely matured, though obviously still a mental case. The way he hung tough against Dimitrov and won a tight one against Tsonga gives me hope for the future. Those were two games that would have turned out very differently just a year ago.
@barbarian said in Tennis:
@rocky-rockbottom said in Tennis:
In summary, he is still total mental retardation. He held it together until 5-5- in the 1st set then abruptly starts barking at the fucking moon. Or, in this case, his players box. They exchange petrified glances. WFT did we do? Oh shit, it dawns on them, our meal ticket is about to go off the reservation. Again.
I watched every game of his and almost every set had one of these 'oh god he's going to lose it' moments. And yet... he never did.
He's definitely matured, though obviously still a mental case. The way he hung tough against Dimitrov and won a tight one against Tsonga gives me hope for the future. Those were two games that would have turned out very differently just a year ago.
Andy Murray was criticized for his attitude for years, then he got it. The kid is a bit slow but he has time
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Tennis:
Djokovic looking all kinds of wrong here. 0-4 down. Anaemic. Creaky. Possibly drunk on goat milk. He's about to lose to the guy you played squash against last week
He's in a 2 set hole now, the Korean has played with robotic precision and Novak looks short of gametime
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Tennis:
Djokovic looking all kinds of wrong here. 0-4 down. Anaemic. Creaky. Possibly drunk on goat milk. He's about to lose to the guy you played squash against last week
He's in a 2 set hole now, the Korean has played with robotic precision and Novak looks short of gametime
Fark this Chung is like a Korean version of Djokovic. Awesome defensive player.
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Fark this Chung is like a Korean version of Djokovic. Awesome defensive player.
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Fark this Chung is like a Korean version of Djokovic. Awesome defensive player.
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Watched the final set of the Halep v Kerber SF. Great power hitting from the women. Cilic is battling Ryan Reynolds clone Brit Edmund who looks a good young talent. Meanwhile Rocky's squash buddy Cheong makes it to the SF vs Federer. If he can keep his composure and keep Roger hitting lots of backhands who knows? This is a golden opportunity for Federer to snatch another GS title
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Watched the final set of the Halep v Kerber SF. Great power hitting from the women. Cilic is battling Ryan Reynolds clone Brit Edmund who looks a good young talent. Meanwhile Rocky's squash buddy Cheong makes it to the SF vs Federer. If he can keep his composure and keep Roger hitting lots of backhands who knows? This is a golden opportunity for Federer to snatch another GS title
@canefan Should really be a walk in the park for Roger - he couldn't hope for an easier line-up than Berdych, Chung, Cilic (or Edmunds).
I was flicking between the cricket and tennis watching Halep v Kerber. Just sheer grit got Halep through.
Hard to pick a winner between her and Wozniacki - neither has won a Slam tournament before and both have been losing finalists twice. Both a bit susceptible to a choke.
Wosniacki ahead in the head to head 4-2 and won the most recent meetings, but I'm slightly inclined to think Halep might just edge this.
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Federer is a fucking marvel. 15 years after his first GS his body is still good enought to outlast the other "greats" and his game is still good enough to beat everyone else.
Finding it a bit churlish to find him being called lucky in this tournament because his contemporaries aren't in good enough shape to get through.
GOATiest of GOATs
