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2017-18 World Sevens Series

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @chchfanatic said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

    a contract is a contract though. He’s obviously tried to slip out the back door. If he’d followed the proper rules then I’m sure the warriors would’ve released him. He’s the one who signed for 5 years as a 15 yr old. Can’t blame the warriors for any of this. He trained with them all off season last year. Someone’s from nzrfu obviously been in his ear. Not a good look to start your career though.

    You don't think the fact he was 15 is an issue? You don't think the Warriors might be better off not trying to sign guys in the 4th/5th form for 5 years?

    Also, when did Nanai become hyphened?

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    @nepia obviously saw something in him. Personally I think 15 is far too young. But the fact is , he did sign as a 15 yr old for 5 seasons. If he wanted to get out of it , go through the proper procedure.

    Is going on a scholarship to st Kent’s just the same as signing a contract at 13.

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      @nepia obviously saw something in him. Personally I think 15 is far too young. But the fact is , he did sign as a 15 yr old for 5 seasons. If he wanted to get out of it , go through the proper procedure.

      Is going on a scholarship to st Kent’s just the same as signing a contract at 13.

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      @chchfanatic said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

      @nepia obviously saw something in him. Personally I think 15 is far too young. But the fact is , he did sign as a 15 yr old for 5 seasons. If he wanted to get out of it , go through the proper procedure.

      Is going on a scholarship to st Kent’s just the same as signing a contract at 13.

      It's irrelevant what they saw in him, 15 years old is too young for a 5 year contract - the Warriors are supposed to be the adults, the professional organisation, they should know that a 15 year old is liable to change his mind in 4 years.

      No, a school scholarship is not the same as signing a contract.

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        The Black Ferns 7s are through to the semis after a 36 - 0 win against Ireland.
        Except maybe Blyde's first try, the Ferns looked to play with the brakes on. Ireland simply not strong enough to get the best out of the Kiwi women.

        The Semi-Final will be at 3.59pm against the winner of the next QF (Canada v France).

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @chchfanatic said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

          @nepia obviously saw something in him. Personally I think 15 is far too young. But the fact is , he did sign as a 15 yr old for 5 seasons. If he wanted to get out of it , go through the proper procedure.

          Is going on a scholarship to st Kent’s just the same as signing a contract at 13.

          It's irrelevant what they saw in him, 15 years old is too young for a 5 year contract - the Warriors are supposed to be the adults, the professional organisation, they should know that a 15 year old is liable to change his mind in 4 years.

          No, a school scholarship is not the same as signing a contract.

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          @nepia but he signed a contract. Yes I agree 5yrs for a 15 yr old is far too long. He had his parents(adults) there. All I’m saying is they signed a contract. If you want out then do it properly. I’m sure the warriors don’t want a player who doesn’t want to play for them.
          The scholarship comment was tongue firmly in cheek.

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            It seems bloody ridiculous to me. You can't have children signing contracts - even if the parents are there. At what age do you draw the line? A 10 year old signing a 10 year contract? That is why we have the law.

            Besides the kid probably has a bright future - if he doesn't join the Warriors.

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              It's probably more common than you think, in both codes. Parents see the $$$ put in front of them.

              Football is even worse as kids much younger than 15 are on the books of big clubs. I'm not saying it's right.

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                It's probably more common than you think, in both codes. Parents see the $$$ put in front of them.

                Football is even worse as kids much younger than 15 are on the books of big clubs. I'm not saying it's right.

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                @bovidae Yeah. I'm not saying it doesn't happen either. Just that I think it is wrong, hence the law being in place.

                Parents also have no say over a young adult once they are 18, so to me the contact is null and void after that age anyway as effectively the parents signed it.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  It's probably more common than you think, in both codes. Parents see the $$$ put in front of them.

                  Football is even worse as kids much younger than 15 are on the books of big clubs. I'm not saying it's right.

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                  @bovidae yeah I remember reading that Man-U had signed a kid to thier JUnior program when he was about 9...but then I expect it takes into account he is 9...?

                  Signing your kid at that age is possibly a little off as well, while I am sure ultimately the goal is for them to have a career, are the parents getting anything from the signing?

                  Maybe it is more a contract of convenience to allow him to train, but maybe leaves him (and warriors) options to explore other options in the meantime?

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                    Worth noting that last summer when he was training with the Warriors he was also training with the Chiefs

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                      Crowd looks pretty disappointing. This is only the third event in Sydney, so it's a bit early for attendance to drop off so markedly. Maybe it will pick up tonight.

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                        Crowd looks pretty disappointing. This is only the third event in Sydney, so it's a bit early for attendance to drop off so markedly. Maybe it will pick up tonight.

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                        @damo said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

                        Crowd looks pretty disappointing. This is only the third event in Sydney, so it's a bit early for attendance to drop off so markedly. Maybe it will pick up tonight.

                        I live in Sydney and had no idea it was on until reading this thread today.

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                          BFs touch up Canada and play Straya in the GF

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                            The Black Ferns 7s have beaten Canada 26 - 0. That semi was a great game to watch. These girls are relentless, both on attack and defence.

                            The BFs will play Australia in the Cup Final tomorrow at 4.37pm.

                            Watching Stacey Waaka playing so well, I was wondering what happened to her brother, who apparently can't make the AB7s squad anymore? Can't remember, did he play at the National 7s?

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                              The Black Ferns 7s have beaten Canada 26 - 0. That semi was a great game to watch. These girls are relentless, both on attack and defence.

                              The BFs will play Australia in the Cup Final tomorrow at 4.37pm.

                              Watching Stacey Waaka playing so well, I was wondering what happened to her brother, who apparently can't make the AB7s squad anymore? Can't remember, did he play at the National 7s?

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                              @stargazer

                              Beaudein plays his club rugby in Hamilton but represents Taranaki. Perhaps he is now concentrating on XVs as I remember him playing in the M10 Cup.

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                                The Black Ferns 7s have beaten Canada 26 - 0. That semi was a great game to watch. These girls are relentless, both on attack and defence.

                                The BFs will play Australia in the Cup Final tomorrow at 4.37pm.

                                Watching Stacey Waaka playing so well, I was wondering what happened to her brother, who apparently can't make the AB7s squad anymore? Can't remember, did he play at the National 7s?

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                                @stargazer said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

                                The Black Ferns 7s have beaten Canada 26 - 0. That semi was a great game to watch. These girls are relentless, both on attack and defence.

                                They are great to watch. If someone had told me 10 years ago that 2 of my favourite rugby players would be women I probably would have laughed. Portia Woodman is awesome and Michaela Blyde pretty close behind.

                                Women's rugby has come a long way and the skills are getting better all the time (from the top teams anyway).

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                                  Looking forward to seeing Ravouvou in the NPC this year. Has some serious potential.

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                                    I think we're looking pretty good against Samoa. Really physical + with some more flair out wide than in previous years.

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                                      2nd game in a row Nanai has made a quality cameo. Very accurate.

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                                        Knewstubb has been a great find. He's getting better and better. Ravouvou also had a great game.

                                        Sad to see Curry getting injured again. I hope it's not too bad. If he's out, I guess Clarke will come in.

                                        Nanai-Seturo didn't get the ball much; his try was a nice present from Molia.

                                        Good performance from the team; Koroi needs to work on his discipline.

                                        Edited to add for who didn't see the game: the AB7s beat Samoa 31 - 0.

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                                          Knewstubb has been a great find. He's getting better and better. Ravouvou also had a great game.

                                          Sad to see Curry getting injured again. I hope it's not too bad. If he's out, I guess Clarke will come in.

                                          Nanai-Seturo didn't get the ball much; his try was a nice present from Molia.

                                          Good performance from the team; Koroi needs to work on his discipline.

                                          Edited to add for who didn't see the game: the AB7s beat Samoa 31 - 0.

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                                          @stargazer said in 2017-18 World Sevens Series:

                                          Knewstubb has been a great find. He's getting better and better. Ravouvou also had a great game.

                                          Sad to see Curry getting injured again. I hope it's not too bad. If he's out, I guess Clarke will come in.

                                          Nanai-Seturo didn't get the ball much; his try was a nice present from Molia.

                                          Good performance from the team; Koroi needs to work on his discipline.

                                          Edited to add for who didn't see the game: the AB7s beat Samoa 31 - 0.

                                          Was Koroi the one who got the YC? That was idiotic.

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