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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    From sportsroom oped from steve deane

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@sportsroom/2018/02/05/81150/t20-cricket-sports-greasy-two-piece-pack

    T20 cricket: sport’s greasy two-piece pack

    The Tuesday Morning Quarterback falls in and out of love with T20 cricket in the space of a mis-timed slog to cow corner.

    It’s not cricket – and we’re not supposed to care. Every ‘true’ cricket lover implicitly knows that about Twenty-20 or T20 or IT20 or the Big Bash, Smash, Crash Super Duper Premier League or whatever the hell the latest iteration is called.

    It’s nonsense. Patience and boredom are two of the central planks of the great game of cricket. Without them, it’s just men in pyjamas having a lark in the park on a summer’s day.

    There’s nothing wrong with that. We all have days where we can’t be bothered dressing properly – ie in full length creams. But we shouldn’t care. And we don’t care. Because T20 is a nonsense.

    Except. Shheeeet.

    “Why the hell would Martin Guptil play a crazy slog sweep against a leg spinner he can’t pick when the dude has one ball left in his spell?

    “And why I am not laughing at the usually brilliant opener’s brain fart? Why am I angry with him?”

    “Shit!”

    Thirteen years after it first infiltrated the sport in a blaze of brown and beige and teased hair, T20 has finally cut through to the point where we (hard-line cricket purists) do actually give a toss.

    The sneaking suspicion on this column’s part after it leaped out of its laziboy to scream abuse at the unfortunate Guptil that people are starting to care about the meaningless was shockingly confirmed by the ravings of a fellow sporting misanthrope.

    Say it ain’t so, Marty?

    “I know. Hush my mouth. I know. It goes against every honourable principle I did once so vehemently rage... But tonight. I actually care about this T20. Care about winning I mean. Is it bcos it’s Oz? Or worse, bcos I’ve actually grown to care?” tweeted sports talk jock Martin Devlin ahead of Saturday night’s showdown with Australia.

    It is so. And it was always going to be so.

    T20 is the unwanted mega-mall that sprung up in your once semi-rural, gentrified back yard. Once the fight at the environment court is lost and the darn thing is built, you’re going to shop there, like it or not.

    You can’t fight progress. Or kids.

    And T20 is custom-made for an ADHD generation being raised by time-poor parents. T20 is the family game, not least because you can take the young whippersnappers along and, no matter how annoyingly they behave, it is always going to be over in three hours.

    So even we hardliners pack the stands, gritting our teeth as another thick edge flies over the tiny third man boundary for six. We resist the urge to tell our beaming kids that, “Son, that right there is god-damn terrible shot and you should avert your eyes”.

    First, they came for the leave outside off stump – and we said nothing. Then they came for the forward defensive shot – and still we said nothing. Then Glenn bloody Maxwell reverse-hooked a fast bowler for six – and it was too bloody late.

    The curtain had gone up. The Big Show was in town. And he wasn’t going anywhere. And now we care.

    But what do we care about? For all its razzle dazzle, T20 seldom lives up to its billing. Matches are rarely close, even less often genuinely enthralling.

    The Black Caps have played seven IT20s this summer and not one of them has been remotely thrilling.

    On Saturday night the Black Caps got to play a coveted, long-awaited match against Australia. It was over as contest inside four overs. That’s so often the harsh reality of T20. The game is simply too abbreviated to accommodate gritty, meritorious comebacks.

    On Tuesday night the Black Caps play another much-anticipated date, with England. Win or lose, it’s unlikely to be a thriller.

    England will smash the Blacks Caps. Or the Black Caps will smash England. They might even smash each other in something resembling a decent contest. But even that best-case scenario will reveal precisely nothing about the two nations’ respective cricketing prowess.

    The match won’t tell us which nation possesses more players of true substance. There will be no bragging rights, because there isn’t really anything on the line.

    Sure, there will be a result. And we might now even care what it is. But we don’t seriously expect to be fulfilled in any meaningful way

    T20 cricket might now have a place at the table, but it is still fast food. Like most fast foods, when the initial surge of guilty pleasure fades, the consumer is left feeling hollow, unsated and wondering why they pulled up to the drive-through in the first place.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    What the fuck is with the ridiculous scheduling of this "tournament"?

    We play, then wait 2 weeks before we play again. Aus play us, wait 4 days, play England, then play England again 3 days later. The final is on a fucking Wednesday. In Auckland.

    It's 20-over cricket, the could have this whole thing knocked over in 10 days easy.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @mariner4life what a travelling cockup it is. Some of these cricket administrators need to be shot into the sun.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Tri Series Cricket:

    What the fuck is with the ridiculous scheduling of this "tournament"?

    We play, then wait 2 weeks before we play again. Aus play us, wait 4 days, play England, then play England again 3 days later. The final is on a fucking Wednesday. In Auckland.

    It's 20-over cricket, the could have this whole thing knocked over in 10 days easy.

    And no Waitangi Day cricket

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    @booboo said in Tri Series Cricket:

    @mariner4life said in Tri Series Cricket:

    What the fuck is with the ridiculous scheduling of this "tournament"?

    We play, then wait 2 weeks before we play again. Aus play us, wait 4 days, play England, then play England again 3 days later. The final is on a fucking Wednesday. In Auckland.

    It's 20-over cricket, the could have this whole thing knocked over in 10 days easy.

    And no Waitangi Day cricket

    Someone would have been offended

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @gunner said in Tri Series Cricket:

    @booboo said in Tri Series Cricket:

    @mariner4life said in Tri Series Cricket:

    What the fuck is with the ridiculous scheduling of this "tournament"?

    We play, then wait 2 weeks before we play again. Aus play us, wait 4 days, play England, then play England again 3 days later. The final is on a fucking Wednesday. In Auckland.

    It's 20-over cricket, the could have this whole thing knocked over in 10 days easy.

    And no Waitangi Day cricket

    Someone would have been offended

    I'm offended. I'm more than offended. I'm triggered!

    Always been cricket on Waitangi Day.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #129

    England storming along and then fall apart - I reckon they're 20 runs short of par.

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    #130

    Chapman and Seifert into the squad for Bruce and Blundell.

    Obviously Hesson has finally read the fern

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @gunner Haven't seen much of these guys, but the little bit I've seen of Chapman has been quite impressive.

    Their stats look good and Bruce hasn't been getting the job done with the bat, while Blundell doesn't look like the right sort of batsman for the job he was given. So, good changes I think, though I'd probably have retained Bruce in the squad instead of Kitchen - who they're saying is surviving as spin cover.... not convinced about that.

    Maxwell puts England to the sword to give the Aussies two wins from two. Despite that England didn't really make enough runs, they could readily have won if firstly Hales had hung onto the catch Maxwell hit him or, secondly, they'd given Maxwell out caught by Roy. I've certainly seen those given.

    So - Oz with one foot in the final - I think already they can only miss out on run rate (i.e. all three teams end up with two wins apiece).

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Chapman will be good. Good 360 degree scoring options, from ball one. Mix of deftness and some decent power.

    Seiffert probably won't be. Seiffert will probably have a good long career for nz in at least a few of the formats. But he won't be an instant success in this T20s batting spot, I think, transferring from a top order role with his province to a lower order role with nz. All the better keeping options in nz at the moment don't quite fit the T20 batting role nz need (Cleaver maybe the best current positional fit). So better just to choose 1 and stick with him. There will be growing pains whoever they stick with.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    Have to say I'd have preferred Chapman to play against the Windies if they were planning on using him this year, but good to see him in the squad.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    Also agree with @mariner4life on the scheduling, it's a fucking mess and leading to a lack of interest with such a long break between games. I like the idea of a T20 Tri-Series but they need to smash it out as quickly as possible because right now, in the midst of the cricket season, we're getting drip fed the odd T20 and that's it. I'm starving!

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    The Aussie selectors were absolutely right to leave Glenn Maxwell out of their ODI side in that series they got flogged in.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @mariner4life Let's remember he got in and fucked up a few times, too.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    @nta said in Tri Series Cricket:

    @mariner4life Let's remember he got in and fucked up a few times, too.

    Yeah, but he oozed talent. I liked him, couldn't understand why they ddin't pick him.

    As for Chapman, it's a good pick. Looking forward to seeing what he can at the top level. Like Lou Vincent debuting against Aus at the Waca, and Flem batting first. Good times... (well, at the start anyway)

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @nzzp said in Tri Series Cricket:

    @nta said in Tri Series Cricket:

    @mariner4life Let's remember he got in and fucked up a few times, too.

    Yeah, but he oozed talent. I liked him, couldn't understand why they ddin't pick him.

    As for Chapman, it's a good pick. Looking forward to seeing what he can at the top level. Like Lou Vincent debuting against Aus at the Waca, and Flem batting first. Good times... (well, at the start anyway)

    LV got a hundy on debut didn't he? Him and those Marshall twins were fucken whippets between the wickets....

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #139

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/101361200/questions-continue-over-wellington-stadium-pitch-as-england-return-to-field-of-nightmares

    Photo of tonight's pitch in the attached, apparently.

    I'd imagine there will be some discussion about it if it does anything other than play like a dream!

    We're risking ridicule rolling out something that looks like this - I'd be going WTF if I saw this in club cricket.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #140

    Go back to the Basin.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    What's the weather doing down in Wellybops? Are we gunna see a game?

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Beaut of a day - heating up although I think we are due some stronger wind later in the day.

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