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  • TimT Away
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101363508/star-hurricanes-playmaker-beauden-barrett-set-to-skip-thursdays-blues-game

    Beyond he and Coles and Milner-Skudder, No.8 Blade Thomson and lock Michael Fatialofa are the other first-string players still under injury clouds.

    A dislocated shoulder has curtailed Thomson's last two campaigns, with the 2017 one barely lasting 40 minutes, while Fatialofa dislocated his knee against the Blues last year, then suffered a bad post-op infection.

    The Hurricanes hope to take both players to Pretoria, but there's still uncertainty about whether either will even be fit to play on Thursday.

    "When boys have been a long time away, if there's any worries you don't want to rush them back. They're both nearly ready to go," Holland said.

    The most recent additions to the team's rehab group are halfback Finlay Christie (knee) and utility back Peter Umaga-Jensen (shoulder), who both suffered injuries at the Brisbane Global Tens and face at least six to eight weeks on the sideline.

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      So the Canes have suffered some injuries from the Tens in Brisbane, but not season-ending like the Chiefs did last year.

      I wonder if the other KIwi teams also have some casualties?

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        It's only the Blues....

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          It's only the Blues....

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          @act-crusader said in Super Rugby News:

          It's only the Blues....

          Very smart by the Canes. Can't risk Beaudie losing confidence this early in the season.

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            Are the Umaga-Jensens ever not injured? The poor buggers never seem to be able string games together.

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            • TimT Away
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              Sunwolves sign Jason Emery

              http://www.planetrugby.com/news/sunwolves-sign-jason-emery/

              Meanwhile, the Sunwolves also confirmed the signing of Ryuchi Noguchi from Tokai University and Atsushi Sakate from the Panasonic Wild Knights, both of whom made their Japan bows in April 2016 against Korea in Kanagawa.

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                http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11993372

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                  That is shit for Goodes. He was improving big time before the concussion.

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                  • ToddyT Toddy

                    That is shit for Goodes. He was improving big time before the concussion.

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                    @toddy and for rugby in general, we've had Clarke, Broadhurst, Afeaki and now Goodes off the top of my head forced out due to concussion.

                    Others who have had issues many thought might end thier careers were McCaw, Ngatai, MacDonald, Smith, assume are plenty more.

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                      Devine before them.

                      Sadly, I think this will be a more common occurrence as greater knowledge and education about the long-term effects of concussion leaves the player with no alternative.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @toddy and for rugby in general, we've had Clarke, Broadhurst, Afeaki and now Goodes off the top of my head forced out due to concussion.

                        Others who have had issues many thought might end thier careers were McCaw, Ngatai, MacDonald, Smith, assume are plenty more.

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                        @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                        for rugby in general, we've had Clarke, Broadhurst, Afeaki and now Goodes off the top of my head forced out due to concussion.

                        Kane Barrett was another recent one

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Devine before them.

                          Sadly, I think this will be a more common occurrence as greater knowledge and education about the long-term effects of concussion leaves the player with no alternative.

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                          @bovidae While anecdotally is easy to say it will be worse now than 20+ years ago, and probably will get worse, the measures and testing available now will increase the numbers without taking into account the physicality compared with 20+ years ago as well.

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                            @bovidae While anecdotally is easy to say it will be worse now than 20+ years ago, and probably will get worse, the measures and testing available now will increase the numbers without taking into account the physicality compared with 20+ years ago as well.

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                            @taniwharugby

                            Players from the amateur era retired due to concussion. Jock Hobbs is an example. But more would have just shaken off any symptoms and got on with it.

                            I agree that the increased physicality and force of collisions is greater now, which definitely plays a part.

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                              From the bottom of the Goodes article

                              A sample of other players to retire due to concussion

                              • James Broadhurst - Hurricanes
                              • Leon MacDonald - Crusaders
                              • Steve Devine - Blues
                              • Ben Afeaki - Chiefs
                              • Craig Clarke - Chiefs
                              • David Briggs - Chiefs
                              • Shane Cleaver - Chiefs
                              • Kane Barrett - Blues

                              Really sad to see Goodes have to pull the pin. A really solid player who hadn't yet reached his full potential. Didn't he score a primo try (for a prop!) in our winning season... will have to have a hunt around for it.

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                                They can't play dumb on this as the situation was the same in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016.
                                
                                The exceptions were 2015 because there was a significant preparation period between the end of Super Rugby and the first scheduled test and last year, again because the squad assembled two weeks before taking on the British & Irish Lions.
                                
                                ............................................................................
                                
                                The truth is that the training camps are not much of a big deal at all, but Super Rugby coaches had their respective noses put out of joint by the way the All Blacks' intentions were communicated. The process was poor apparently: a touch dictatorial while the initial demands were also thought to be excessive.
                                
                                But here we are now with an agreement that seems reasonable and bang in line with previous seasons which means it is time to get over it.
                                

                                http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11993623

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                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/101400955/crusaders-name-12-all-blacks-in-side-to-play-highlanders-in-waimumu

                                  Crusaders: David Havili, Seta Tamanivalu, Jack Goodhue, Ryan Crotty, Braydon Ennor, Richie Mo'unga, Bryn Hall, Jordan Taufua, Matt Todd, Pete Samu, Sam Whitelock (captain), Scott Barrett, Michael Alaalatoa, Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett. Reserves: Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Chris King, Ben Funnell, Oli Jager, Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Billy Harmon, Mitchell Drummond, Mitch Hunt, Jone Macilai, Tim Bateman, Manasa Mataele, George Bridge.

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                                    Moody, Franks and Perry all out leaves us pretty shorthanded in the propping stocks. Crockett and Alaalatoa are serviceable, but then the untried Lindenmuth, the last legs of Chris King and the somewhat underwhelming Jager.

                                    Having both Drummond and Taufua fit and ready to go is a plus.

                                    I presume that - as well as the various ABs listed in the article as out injured - so too are Mitchell Dunshea (again!) and Will Jordan.

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                                      12 ABs plus FABBE.....

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                                        12 ABs plus FABBE.....

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                                        @act-crusader said in Super Rugby News:

                                        12 ABs plus FABBE.....

                                        I was expecting him to carve up the 10s but he was more Caleb Ralph than Caleb Clarke.

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                                          Chiefs add All Blacks Damian McKenzie and Brodie Retallick for Brumbies pre-season clash

                                          Chiefs: Shaun Stevenson, Tim Nanai-Williams, Anton Lienert-Brown, Alex Nankivell, Solomon Alaimalo, Damian McKenzie, Brad Weber, Taleni Seu, Sam Cane (co-capt), Mitchell Brown, Dominic Bird, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Liam Polwart, Atu Moli.

                                          Reserves: Kane Hames, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross, Michael Allardice, Lachlan Boshier, Liam Messam, Mitchell Karpik, Luke Jacobson, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Marty McKenzie, Tiaan Falcon, Johnny Fa'auli, Charlie Ngatai (co-capt)

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