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  • TimT Away
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    I'm really surprised that he rotated well performed tight forwards from the last game. Just seems like changes for the sake of them.

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    @tim he took Scrafton off and left PT on didnt he?

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    @taniwharugby Yep.

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    @taniwharugby No idea why he started Manu and Tuipulotu after last week.

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    Another question - if Perofeta is fit enough to play today for the Blues A team why the hell wasnt he on the bench last night?

    Are you trying to tell me he wouldnt be an upgrade on Kirkpatrick? Blues needed attacking spark at the end - Perofeta would have been more than useful.

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    @kiwimurph I think coaches generally first want to give players some game time after an injury, before naming them in the main squad. Canes did the same with Jordie Barrett.

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    @stargazer I understand that but Perofeta played preseason games - Jordie hadnt played rugby since what the Lions series? Kirkpatrick didnt see 1 minute of gametime in either of the first two games so was clearly only there as an emergency.

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    @kiwimurph said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

    @stargazer I understand that but Perofeta played preseason games - Jordie hadnt played rugby since what the Lions series? Kirkpatrick didnt see 1 minute of gametime in either of the first two games so was clearly only there as an emergency.

    Perofeta is clearly playing for the Blues A team to work on his combination with Ruru for a full 80 minutes. One can only hope.

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    @mimic won't matter unless Pulu is injured

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    @taniwharugby said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

    @mimic won't matter unless Pulu is injured

    Yep Pulu is a big part of the problem. Shockingly slow and ponderous.

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    @taniwharugby said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

    @mimic won't matter unless Pulu is injured

    Or gets a red card. Not unthinkable, considering the idiotic behaviour that got him red for Counties.

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    Pulu might be injured - he looked pretty ginger coming off last night.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

    Actually one thing I think that would have made a difference at the Blues since Evans pissed off is a proper world class flyhalf. It wouldn't have won them a title but they probably would have won a shit load more matches.

    You know. I've never seen thst suggested about the Blues ever.

    (Or perhaps I just got trolled mightily and proved that I don't get irony ... )

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    So I assume the eight posters who voted yes all support other franchises?

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    @dogmeat said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

    So I assume the eight posters who voted yes all support other franchises?

    my standing bet on chiefs finishing above blues with my mate has (almost.. not really ) bought me a second home so yes...

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    @dogmeat you do realize you can check who voted Yes (or No if you have more time)

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    @taniwharugby yes I do - and did before I posted my aphorism

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    @dogmeat I don't like it when people post a word I have to google.

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    @dogmeat said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

    So I assume the eight posters who voted yes all support other franchises?

    I'd say it's more complicated than that.
    Is Umaga doing a good job? No.

    Is Umaga doing an obviously bad job? No.

    Is the team improving (slowly)? Sort of - there seems to be a lot of cultural stuff to unwind before restarting

    Is there a better coaching option out there? God knows, but not sure there is an obviously better choice.

    Changing coaches regularly has not had a significant effect on team performance. Pat Lam copped a load of shit for his losing season, but ultiamtely I don't think he was any worse than the others we have had. Coaches by themselves will not fix the organisation - it will come down to a good front office, healthy team environment, and good recruitment. If we can somehow find a good 8-9-10 combo, that's great, but it's bloody hard to win without world class players around that spine.

    Thankfully, we don't have any more Benji Marshall type selections. I like that.

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    @nzzp said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

    Pat Lam copped a load of shit

    The organisation changed a lot in Kirwans first year. They loosened their wallet and hired full time support coaches. The max two players outside the region limit was removed. Also they moved from the old training facilities that the players hated and thought was a dump etc etc

    I would've liked to have seen Lam have the same advantages that Kirwan and Umaga have had.. but the changes happened too late for him.

    Now I would like to see a non-celebrity coach have an opportunity after those improvements

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