Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@barbarian they don't. you are the one trying to find a "winner" with your sook allegation.
@mariner4life Because it's painted as one-sided, and I think that over-eggs it.
Go and have a look at Neil Manthorp's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/NeilManthorp
The narrative goes that what De Kock did was fine, because Warner 'mentioned his family'. What's the source for that? We don't know. But his actions were entirely justifiable.
But then Warner's similar allegation is essentially dismissed. It's made up. It's a cover for general ugliness.
I just don't buy it. I'd be far more amenable to that viewpoint if there was an admission (like Faf's) that the incident was two-sided, but brought on by previous Warner behaviour. You could easily point to Warner's aggression in the field, and say that poor old de Kock just snapped as anyone would.
But no, it has to be one step further. The Aussies are the only aggressors here, and the poor noble Saffers did absolutely nothing wrong.
I'm not arguing that Warner isn't a fluffybunny who deserved everything he got. I'm arguing that some of the views aired by Manthorp and co. over-egg the pudding.
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I thought it interesting that immediately after the visual incident, the first spin was put on it about the content of de Kocks words.
Not who to blame interesting but interestimg in the immediate modern pr exercise of shifting the issue when it's clear that Warner acted like a fluffybunny despite the provocation.
Same thing channel 4 did by claiming a security issue when Jordan Petersen exposed that Cathy idiot in their interview.
The tactic of deflect the real ugliness.
Warner, in the raw footage, was way out of line regardless of the provocation. The pr spin suggests he was incapable of not retaliating.
All because someone said something horrible ( and baseless) about his wife.
Big fucken deal wee davey victim
"I thought Joe Roots fake beard was insulting Usman, so I had to punch him"
Always Warner but never his fault or a glaring lack of self control - from a celebrated leader.
Fick off
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@mariner4life Because it's painted as one-sided, and I think that over-eggs it.
Go and have a look at Neil Manthorp's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/NeilManthorp
The narrative goes that what De Kock did was fine, because Warner 'mentioned his family'. What's the source for that? We don't know. But his actions were entirely justifiable.
But then Warner's similar allegation is essentially dismissed. It's made up. It's a cover for general ugliness.
I just don't buy it. I'd be far more amenable to that viewpoint if there was an admission (like Faf's) that the incident was two-sided, but brought on by previous Warner behaviour. You could easily point to Warner's aggression in the field, and say that poor old de Kock just snapped as anyone would.
But no, it has to be one step further. The Aussies are the only aggressors here, and the poor noble Saffers did absolutely nothing wrong.
I'm not arguing that Warner isn't a fluffybunny who deserved everything he got. I'm arguing that some of the views aired by Manthorp and co. over-egg the pudding.
@barbarian is that irony? are you being ironic? because somewhere there is a South African making the exact same statement about the Aussie media. Or indeed the Aussie players, who pretty much think the only thing "Davey" did wrong was try and get physical. Up to that point everything he did and said was all good. That's just how they play. And will continue to play.
There. Is. No. Moral. High. Ground. Here. For anyone.
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@barbarian is that irony? are you being ironic? because somewhere there is a South African making the exact same statement about the Aussie media. Or indeed the Aussie players, who pretty much think the only thing "Davey" did wrong was try and get physical. Up to that point everything he did and said was all good. That's just how they play. And will continue to play.
There. Is. No. Moral. High. Ground. Here. For anyone.
@mariner4life Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I don't like the attempts by the Saffers to claim the moral high ground.
Because I will readily acknowledge we don't have it, and never will. But fuck knows they aren't near it either.
At least Warner copped the charge.
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@mariner4life Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I don't like the attempts by the Saffers to claim the moral high ground.
Because I will readily acknowledge we don't have it, and never will. But fuck knows they aren't near it either.
At least Warner copped the charge.
@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I don't like the attempts by the Saffers to claim the moral high ground.
Because I will readily acknowledge we don't have it, and never will. But fuck knows they aren't near it either.
At least Warner copped the charge.
have you read his statement? He's absolutely trying to claim the moral high ground! It was all in defense of a lady!
Copping his whack is only part of it.
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@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I don't like the attempts by the Saffers to claim the moral high ground.
Because I will readily acknowledge we don't have it, and never will. But fuck knows they aren't near it either.
At least Warner copped the charge.
have you read his statement? He's absolutely trying to claim the moral high ground! It was all in defense of a lady!
Copping his whack is only part of it.
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
It was all in defense of a lady!
That is his wife you are referring to right?
The lady bit?
She married David fucking Warner. I did get your point but "lady" might be the wrong term.I could go on a rant about personal responsibility here but I will save you all by not doing it.
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@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
It was all in defense of a lady!
That is his wife you are referring to right?
The lady bit?
She married David fucking Warner. I did get your point but "lady" might be the wrong term.I could go on a rant about personal responsibility here but I will save you all by not doing it.
@snowy said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
It was all in defense of a lady!
That is his wife you are referring to right?
The lady bit?
She married David fucking Warner. I did get your point but "lady" might be the wrong term.I could go on a rant about personal responsibility here but I will save you all by not doing it.
that's crossing the line.
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@snowy said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
It was all in defense of a lady!
That is his wife you are referring to right?
The lady bit?
She married David fucking Warner. I did get your point but "lady" might be the wrong term.I could go on a rant about personal responsibility here but I will save you all by not doing it.
that's crossing the line.
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@snowy said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
It was all in defense of a lady!
That is his wife you are referring to right?
The lady bit?
She married David fucking Warner. I did get your point but "lady" might be the wrong term.I could go on a rant about personal responsibility here but I will save you all by not doing it.
that's crossing the line.
Nice work.
The NZ v England series is just making it more obvious what de Kocks some of the other players are. It really doesn't have to be "war". The on field contest is what counts, not the biggest dickhead. Unfortunately the Aussie cricket team win most of the time on both counts.
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@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I don't like the attempts by the Saffers to claim the moral high ground.
Because I will readily acknowledge we don't have it, and never will. But fuck knows they aren't near it either.
At least Warner copped the charge.
have you read his statement? He's absolutely trying to claim the moral high ground! It was all in defense of a lady!
Copping his whack is only part of it.
@mariner4life It's a pretty big part, though. At least he said he went too far. He did add the 'but he called my wife a slag', and once again I grant you he's a dickhead. And we end up right back where we started.
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Indeed. Everyone is acting like a tool. Everyone is having a sook. Why don't you all shut the fuck up and play some cricket?
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Indeed. Everyone is acting like a tool. Everyone is having a sook. Why don't you all shut the fuck up and play some cricket?
I don't really give a damn but let's not pretend that we don't know which cricket team is always involved in series where teams are behaving badly on the field
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Many Aussie cricketers on the whole ( I say Many, not all obviously as they've provided some absolute dead set legends on and off the field ) seem like the kind of dickhead workmate/mate of a mate/family member or whoever that we all have in our lives who love dishing out shit/banter but absolutely CANNOT take it when it's thrown back at them.
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I only know about this test cos of this bit of 'banter'
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I only know about this test cos of this bit of 'banter'
@taniwharugby said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I only know about this test cos of this bit of 'banter'
Well yeah if anything it's actually pretty good for the longest form of the game and it's survival....
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Many Aussie cricketers on the whole ( I say Many, not all obviously as they've provided some absolute dead set legends on and off the field ) seem like the kind of dickhead workmate/mate of a mate/family member or whoever that we all have in our lives who love dishing out shit/banter but absolutely CANNOT take it when it's thrown back at them.
@mn5 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Many Aussie cricketers on the whole ( I say Many, not all obviously as they've provided some absolute dead set legends on and off the field ) seem like the kind of dickhead workmate/mate of a mate/family member or whoever that we all have in our lives who love dishing out shit/banter but absolutely CANNOT take it when it's thrown back at them.
I don't remember what guys like Lillee, Boon, Hughes, the Chappells, even Healy used to sledge about. They were pretty damn scary as it was. Maybe I'm paying more attention now but it seems like Haddin, Watson and Dumb dumb are next level scum. I'll never forget Haddin spraying Guptill and Elliott in the CWC final and him saying that our politeness made him nervous/pissed off. Grade A fluffybunnies.
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@mn5 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Many Aussie cricketers on the whole ( I say Many, not all obviously as they've provided some absolute dead set legends on and off the field ) seem like the kind of dickhead workmate/mate of a mate/family member or whoever that we all have in our lives who love dishing out shit/banter but absolutely CANNOT take it when it's thrown back at them.
I don't remember what guys like Lillee, Boon, Hughes, the Chappells, even Healy used to sledge about. They were pretty damn scary as it was. Maybe I'm paying more attention now but it seems like Haddin, Watson and Dumb dumb are next level scum. I'll never forget Haddin spraying Guptill and Elliott in the CWC final and him saying that our politeness made him nervous/pissed off. Grade A fluffybunnies.
@canefan said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mn5 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Many Aussie cricketers on the whole ( I say Many, not all obviously as they've provided some absolute dead set legends on and off the field ) seem like the kind of dickhead workmate/mate of a mate/family member or whoever that we all have in our lives who love dishing out shit/banter but absolutely CANNOT take it when it's thrown back at them.
I don't remember what guys like Lillee, Boon, Hughes, the Chappells, even Healy used to sledge about. They were pretty damn scary as it was. Maybe I'm paying more attention now but it seems like Haddin, Watson and Dumb dumb are next level scum. I'll never forget Haddin spraying Guptill and Elliott in the CWC final and him saying that our politeness made him nervous/pissed off. Grade A fluffybunnies.
No argument there but it's very easy for kiwis to have a go at Aussies just for being Aussies ( it's that pathetic little brother shit I hate ). Personally I reserve any scorn for Haddin obviously but not a hell of a lot of others. I've got nothing but respect and admiration for Border, the Waughs, Hussey, Langer, Hayden, Gilly and many others.
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We won. All the bitching is just bitching.
Entirely appropriate for Intentional Women's Day.
Well you all be back to normal tomorrow, when your ovaries stop hurting?
@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
We won. All the bitching is just bitching.
Entirely appropriate for Intentional Women's Day.
Well you all be back to normal tomorrow, when your ovaries stop hurting?
Good from you @NTA. I'm pretty certain @Virgil 's senses just went off and he'll be here shortly to tell you how shit your Rugby team is.
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We won. All the bitching is just bitching.
Entirely appropriate for Intentional Women's Day.
Well you all be back to normal tomorrow, when your ovaries stop hurting?
@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
We won. All the bitching is just bitching.
Entirely appropriate for Intentional Women's Day.
Well you all be back to normal tomorrow, when your ovaries stop hurting?
look, as far as i am concerned, what happens on the board stays on the board. and i am going to do, and type anything i can to point out your blatant aussie hypocrisy, and generally make you feel uncomfortable. to do my best posting when I'm being abusive. but i think that bringing up someone's anatomy is crossing the line, and i should stand up to that. especially lady parts, those most of all. but it should be left on the board, and not taken public. or something
you fucking sook
