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    Things are getting interesting.

    Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

    Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

    Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

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      So QB moves so far:
      Smith traded to Redskins
      Garoppolo reups with 49ers
      Bortles reups with Jags
      Taylor traded to Browns
      Keenum to Broncos
      Bradford to Cardinals
      Kizer to Packers
      McCown resigns with Jets
      Cousins to vikings

      So Bridgewater the only remaining free agent of note, probably destined for a competition with McCown at the Jets. Meanwhile Browns, Bills and Jets likely to be the most motivated to draft a qb. The bills especially have been loading up for a move. Lots of other teams holding high picks will be looking closely at the qbs around but I don't think any of them will be keen enough to pay the price to move up, unless someone (Mayfield or Allen most likely) slides into the mid-late first round.

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        The NFL is always good fun off the field.
        https://twitter.com/weddlesbeard/status/973635852109787137

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        • canefanC canefan

          Things are getting interesting.

          Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

          Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

          Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

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          @canefan said in NFL 2017:

          Things are getting interesting.

          Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

          Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

          Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

          Jimmy Graham + Aaron Rogers could be approaching Gronk levels of greatness. The Packers also sign Mo Wilkerson who although coming off a couple of down years has pro-bowl upside so could add some nasty to the Packers defence. The Packers hardly ever make big move in free-agencies, but when they do they look about as good as any team when they do.

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          • CyclopsC Cyclops

            @canefan said in NFL 2017:

            Things are getting interesting.

            Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

            Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

            Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

            Jimmy Graham + Aaron Rogers could be approaching Gronk levels of greatness. The Packers also sign Mo Wilkerson who although coming off a couple of down years has pro-bowl upside so could add some nasty to the Packers defence. The Packers hardly ever make big move in free-agencies, but when they do they look about as good as any team when they do.

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            @cyclops Rodgers must be pinching herself that for once he's got real help

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              Arizona better sign a good backup QB because they'll be playing more than Sam Bradford next season....

              With all the QB moves it's obvious the Bills are all in on trading their way into the top 5 of the draft. The Colts look like they might be willing to listen to an offers and I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants also listen to offers from the Bills, Cards and Jets.

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              • canefanC canefan

                Things are getting interesting.

                Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

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                @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                Things are getting interesting.

                Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

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                • mimicM mimic

                  @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                  Things are getting interesting.

                  Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                  Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                  Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                  Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                  Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                  It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                  Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

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                  @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                  @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                  Things are getting interesting.

                  Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                  Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                  Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                  Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                  Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                  It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                  Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

                  Bridgewater is heading to the Jets and his deal is apparently 5 mill, with a heap of incentives. If true that is an incredible deal given the massive upside Bridgewater has. I know he needs to get on the field (and doing so will see the incentives kick in) but it means that the jets are getting mccown + Bridgwater for the same price as the bears paid for Mike Glennon and a major discount on what the Cardinals are paying for Bradford. Be interesting to see what McCarron ends up getting.

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                  • CyclopsC Cyclops

                    @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                    @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                    Things are getting interesting.

                    Looks like the Pack will release Jordy Nelson and sign Jimmy Graham from Seattle who continue to cut and run

                    Looks like Malcolm Butler will leave NE for the Titans

                    Sources say Danny Amendola will leave NE for MIA

                    Dion Lewis to the Titans as well.
                    Will be interesting to see what will happen to the Patriots.
                    It will be interesting to see if the Pats will pick up Jordy, a white WR will do Brady just fine.

                    Rumours are Teddy Bridgewater is moving to the Jets.

                    Bridgewater is heading to the Jets and his deal is apparently 5 mill, with a heap of incentives. If true that is an incredible deal given the massive upside Bridgewater has. I know he needs to get on the field (and doing so will see the incentives kick in) but it means that the jets are getting mccown + Bridgwater for the same price as the bears paid for Mike Glennon and a major discount on what the Cardinals are paying for Bradford. Be interesting to see what McCarron ends up getting.

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                    @cyclops AJ McCarron signs to be the Bills starting QB for $10 million over two years with $6.5 million available in incentives. Not a bad deal for the Bills and it gives them time to ready the QB they pick in the upcoming draft.

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                      Solder moves to the Giants..
                      Patriots looking like they're going to struggle
                      Is Belichick setting up Brady to get hit more? Lol

                      Pats re-sign Burkhead..

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                        The 49ers sign RB Jerick McKinnon to a big four-year $37 million deal. Last night when looking through the free agent RBs, I began hoping the 49ers would take McKinnon (dual-threat RB with low mileage and proved himself well in Minnesota which favours big bruising RBs). But $37 million is a lot of money, even though the 49ers have the cap space.

                        Former 49ers RB Carlos Hyde has chosen to end his career in Cleveland.

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                          Dolphins release Ndamukong Suh and Julius Thomas.

                          Will be interesting to see who ends up with Suh. Would like to see the Browns pick up Suh.

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                            Ravens fix their massive WR problems (i.e they had none) by signing Michael Crabtree and John Brown. The twist here is the Ravens panicked when they missed out on Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins in the first hours of free agency and signed former Washington WR Ryan Grant to a $29 million deal (along with Brown but Brown is a good WR2).
                            Then Crabtree is released by the Raiders, who signed Jordy Nelson, and what do you know, the Ravens say that Grant has failed his physical (which Grant disputes) and go and sign Crabtree.

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                              Jets and Colts swap first rounders, in return for 2 2018 2nd rounders and a 2019 2nd.

                              A high price, but with less long term implications than than I was expecting. I'm impressed that they didn't have to part with a future first, possibly benefiting from being in quick (a bird in the hand and all that).

                              Bills now look like they'll miss out on the top 3 qbs, depending on what the Giants do. Personally I think the Giants will look to take a QB now, since they're in a great position and Eli can still be a bridge. But the Bills have the collateral for a move up. Having basically gutted their roster for that collateral, I hope they like all of the 'big four' QBs.

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                              • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                Jets and Colts swap first rounders, in return for 2 2018 2nd rounders and a 2019 2nd.

                                A high price, but with less long term implications than than I was expecting. I'm impressed that they didn't have to part with a future first, possibly benefiting from being in quick (a bird in the hand and all that).

                                Bills now look like they'll miss out on the top 3 qbs, depending on what the Giants do. Personally I think the Giants will look to take a QB now, since they're in a great position and Eli can still be a bridge. But the Bills have the collateral for a move up. Having basically gutted their roster for that collateral, I hope they like all of the 'big four' QBs.

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                                @cyclops It also forces the Browns to commit to drafting a QB with their first pick or else they could end up with their third QB choice when the fourth pick rolls around. I think the Giants will begin putting out rumours they are interested in drafting a QB and see if the Bills bite. Otherwise they will be happy with RB Saquon Barkley.

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                                  Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                  Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

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                                    Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                    Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

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                                    @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                    Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                    Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

                                    It's the Browns....

                                    I rate Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Mayfield is getting a lot of love because he played at a famous football college so I don't know if that means he's any good in the NFL. Lamar Jackson could be a sneaky steal in the backend of the first round but mobile QBs tend to be figured out early on in their careers if they don't change their style.

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                                      @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                      Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                      Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

                                      It's the Browns....

                                      I rate Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Mayfield is getting a lot of love because he played at a famous football college so I don't know if that means he's any good in the NFL. Lamar Jackson could be a sneaky steal in the backend of the first round but mobile QBs tend to be figured out early on in their careers if they don't change their style.

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                                      @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

                                      @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                      Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                      Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

                                      It's the Browns....

                                      I rate Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Mayfield is getting a lot of love because he played at a famous football college so I don't know if that means he's any good in the NFL. Lamar Jackson could be a sneaky steal in the backend of the first round but mobile QBs tend to be figured out early on in their careers if they don't change their style.

                                      Mayfield also had the best college career of the big four (including a Heisman trophy this year, for all the relevance that has) but played in a very QB friendly scheme so questions around whether he can transfer that into the NFL, and also questions about mindset/off field conduct (there's been a couple of comparisons to Johnny Manziel). He's also short.

                                      Lots of talk about Lamar Jackson being converted to a WR, although he doesn't want to so I could see him having a similar career path to Terelle Pryor.

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                                        @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

                                        @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                        Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                        Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

                                        It's the Browns....

                                        I rate Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Mayfield is getting a lot of love because he played at a famous football college so I don't know if that means he's any good in the NFL. Lamar Jackson could be a sneaky steal in the backend of the first round but mobile QBs tend to be figured out early on in their careers if they don't change their style.

                                        Mayfield also had the best college career of the big four (including a Heisman trophy this year, for all the relevance that has) but played in a very QB friendly scheme so questions around whether he can transfer that into the NFL, and also questions about mindset/off field conduct (there's been a couple of comparisons to Johnny Manziel). He's also short.

                                        Lots of talk about Lamar Jackson being converted to a WR, although he doesn't want to so I could see him having a similar career path to Terelle Pryor.

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                                        @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

                                        @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

                                        @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                        Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                        Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

                                        It's the Browns....

                                        I rate Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Mayfield is getting a lot of love because he played at a famous football college so I don't know if that means he's any good in the NFL. Lamar Jackson could be a sneaky steal in the backend of the first round but mobile QBs tend to be figured out early on in their careers if they don't change their style.

                                        Mayfield also had the best college career of the big four (including a Heisman trophy this year, for all the relevance that has) but played in a very QB friendly scheme so questions around whether he can transfer that into the NFL, and also questions about mindset/off field conduct (there's been a couple of comparisons to Johnny Manziel). He's also short.

                                        Mayfield has a much better arm, much better accuracy and his playing style is way more translatable to the NFL than Manziel - his off the field stuff isn't as bad either - so he should be a decent starter for whoever drafts him.

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                                          @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                          Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                          Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

                                          Wentz and Goff would've been wasted at the Browns. Both of those guys had the luxury of being paired up with great OCs and QB coaches, as well as having good weapons(mainly in year 2), which the Browns don't have. They've also had offenses that have been tailored to their strengths, which surprisingly is not the most common thing in the NFL and wouldn't of been guaranteed at the Browns.

                                          @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

                                          @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                          Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
                                          Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

                                          It's the Browns....

                                          I rate Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Mayfield is getting a lot of love because he played at a famous football college so I don't know if that means he's any good in the NFL. Lamar Jackson could be a sneaky steal in the backend of the first round but mobile QBs tend to be figured out early on in their careers if they don't change their style.

                                          I like Darnold and Rosen as my top 2, but I think Allen is a massive risk for a team to draft in the 1st round. He has serious accuracy problems and only had half field reads in college, but he's big and has a cannon of an arm, so someone will bite.

                                          His arm is ridiculously strong though. He was clocked throwing 66mph in the senior bowl, which is insane. I've never seen that high a number before in regards to arm strength in the NFL. Still has nothing on Uncle Rico though.

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