6N 2018
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Fair to say Ireland are the real deal , but most knowledgeable kiwis knew that anyway , so it shouldnt be that much of a surprise .
I think England are probably the bigger story right now ....... more bark than bite ?
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Fair to say Ireland are the real deal , but most knowledgeable kiwis knew that anyway , so it shouldnt be that much of a surprise .
I think England are probably the bigger story right now ....... more bark than bite ?
@kiwiinmelb when they beat us in November it'd be nice going into a RWC with someone else as fave!
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Worrying thing for England is Ireland could have played much better. Opposition teams have figured out Jones' game plan and he seems to have only ever had one plan.
Even more worrying is that if Sth Africa turn them over in June and NZ do the same in November, England are left with a lame-duck coach with no plan B, 6-9 months before a Rugby World Cup.
It all sounds horrifying familiar...
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Worrying thing for England is Ireland could have played much better. Opposition teams have figured out Jones' game plan and he seems to have only ever had one plan.
Even more worrying is that if Sth Africa turn them over in June and NZ do the same in November, England are left with a lame-duck coach with no plan B, 6-9 months before a Rugby World Cup.
It all sounds horrifying familiar...
@victor-meldrew said in 6N 2018:
Worrying thing for England is Ireland could have played much better. Opposition teams have figured out Jones' game plan and he seems to have only ever had one plan.
Even more worrying is that if Sth Africa turn them over in June and NZ do the same in November, England are left with a lame-duck coach with no plan B, 6-9 months before a Rugby World Cup.
It all sounds horrifying familiar...
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The wheels well and truly falling off the chariot, again.
Very impressive what effect New Zealanders are having for Irish rugby. Might be time to consider dragging a few home.
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The wheels well and truly falling off the chariot, again.
Very impressive what effect New Zealanders are having for Irish rugby. Might be time to consider dragging a few home.
@antipodean said in 6N 2018:
The wheels well and truly falling off the chariot, again.
Very impressive what effect New Zealanders are having for Irish rugby. Might be time to consider dragging a few home.
I'm just trying to get my head around the fact that this England team which the press have told us needs to be respected and feared managed a 2-3 record in the tourney.
Also, childish I know, but I'm really glad BOD isn't around to bask in this latest Irish glory....
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@rocky-rockbottom Yous got your way!
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I know I go on about the standard of refereeing, but the Eng v Ire was dreadful at key points. The TMO missed a clear knock on by Kearney for Ireland's first try. Angus gave a YC for a Irish player swimming up the side of the maul and collapsing it just short of the line. If that doesn't merit a penalty try, what does?
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Well done Ireland, we were lucky to come second.
The thing I don't quite get is that for all his faults Eddie has seemingly always had his teams playing intelligent rugby. That aspect has been absent from the AIs onwards. The last two seasons we came out trying to play rugby from the get go, this season we wait until the game is lost before we give it a go. Now why is that?
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It wasn’t a clear knock on.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 6N 2018:
Excellent news re: England. Anyone who's spent time in the UK will be aware that now we all get to revel in what the UK media, and brits in general, do best. That being, having a massive, MASSIVE, morose & moribund whinge. They love it and they are brilliant at it. Undisputed world champs. They wallow in their own shittiness with an almost joyous preternaturalness. When something goes right, whether it's with the soccer team, the rugby team, whatever, its always tainted with that grey pall of, well, it's going to fucking rain tomorrow and, frankly, we'll only really be in our element then.
The shit weather coupled with the natural cynicism forms a beautiful elixir which bottlenecks, the valve for which is the papers and blogs and twatsphere, a crucial national pressure point release valve that will light up as the UK en masse tears into whatever latest poor fluffybunnies have gone and stuffed it all up, just like we all knew they eventually fucking would. I am convinced the brits have a pleasure section of their brains that actually lights up then things go tits up.
Put this in the British Politycs section and I may lose my shit ....
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@antipodean said in 6N 2018:
The wheels well and truly falling off the chariot, again.
Very impressive what effect New Zealanders are having for Irish rugby. Might be time to consider dragging a few home.
I'm just trying to get my head around the fact that this England team which the press have told us needs to be respected and feared managed a 2-3 record in the tourney.
Also, childish I know, but I'm really glad BOD isn't around to bask in this latest Irish glory....
@antipodean said in 6N 2018:
The wheels well and truly falling off the chariot, again.
Very impressive what effect New Zealanders are having for Irish rugby. Might be time to consider dragging a few home.
I'm just trying to get my head around the fact that this England team which the press have told us needs to be respected and feared managed a 2-3 record in the tourney.
Also, childish I know, but I'm really glad BOD isn't around to bask in this latest Irish glory....
I’m stoked that whinging twat isn’t involved, when he was part of the team they’d be talked up beyond any discernible talent they had, play us and it would end in a leprechaust . Now they actually deliver on their promise which is great because France seem to have no fucks to give about test rugby and South Africa has all sorts of problems. Another genuine rival coming along is great for our game.
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I just think that coaching in 2018 has moved on and left Eddie Jones behind...
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It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?
Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.
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It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?
Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.
It's understandably being heaped on Jones, but boy that laboured passing by England was devastating to them and cringe worthy to watch. Who are the skills or attack coaches?
Passes 2 feet overhead, a metre behind, at the feet. It was very rare to see any "bread baskets". They were worse than the ABs last season.
They were tired because they had to play the ABs apparently.
Funny how that is never admitted as a factor when the shoe is on the other foot in the November tests.
