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Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    What feels different about this instance is the admission the ‘leadership group’ were all in on it, and the sight of Lehman trying to quietly message the team’s way out of it. My memory of previous ball tampering instances is that you usually had one cheating culprit rather than the immediate appearance of an orchestrated set of cheating.

    I also don’t remember a team being dumb enough to drop themselves in it on that scale since the arrival of HD coverage...

    Would it be different if it was Pakistan? Yep, I’d guess the outrage would be much less but the ultimate (formal) punishments would be stronger.

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    • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

      Yup.... lynch mob

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      @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

      Yup.... lynch mob

      Yep but it’s to be expected given it’s the Australian cricket team
      They have been at the heart of nearly every onfield and off field drama the last few years. They attract zero sympathy from anyone else.
      Trawl through all the articles written about the issues on this tour and a large number are basically about sticking in the boot.
      They have pissed off a lot of cricket fans for a while now. It’s their chance to kick them while they are down.

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      • VirgilV Virgil

        @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

        Yup.... lynch mob

        Yep but it’s to be expected given it’s the Australian cricket team
        They have been at the heart of nearly every onfield and off field drama the last few years. They attract zero sympathy from anyone else.
        Trawl through all the articles written about the issues on this tour and a large number are basically about sticking in the boot.
        They have pissed off a lot of cricket fans for a while now. It’s their chance to kick them while they are down.

        SiamS Offline
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        @virgil

        What the governing body of sport in Australia making a comment when it's flagship admits cheating is a lynch mob?

        Bit melodramatic ain't it?

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        • SiamS Siam

          @virgil

          What the governing body of sport in Australia making a comment when it's flagship admits cheating is a lynch mob?

          Bit melodramatic ain't it?

          VirgilV Offline
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          @siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

          @virgil

          What the governing body of sport in Australia making a comment when it's flagship admits cheating is a lynch mob?

          Bit melodramatic ain't it?

          I didn’t mean it’s a total lynch mob
          My point was more to highlight the fact that no one has any sympathy for the Aussie’s and are more then happy to see them punished heavily
          If this was Pakistan or even India the outrage wouldn’t be the same
          It would be a big deal for sure but it would fade pretty quickly.
          No one else is dispised quite like the Aussie cricket team is ( no offence meant to the likes of @NTA and @barbarian )

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          • PaekakboyzP Offline
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            Crickets their #1 so I guess it's on par with a similar and significant fuck up by the AB's? And I don't mean playing cully at centre. Plus there was a fair bit of how they've been trying to keep the big bash super clean behaviour-wise probably has them going super hard out.

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            • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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              #334

              Yep lynch them all. But suspensions only kick in just before the next Chappell-Hadlee series....

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                Yep lynch them all. But suspensions only kick in just before the next Chappell-Hadlee series....

                VirgilV Offline
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                #335

                @act-crusader said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                Yep lynch them all. But suspensions only kick in just before the next Chappell-Hadlee series....

                Aren’t we due to possibly play a Boxing Day test soon as well 🙂

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                • VirgilV Virgil

                  @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                  Yup.... lynch mob

                  Yep but it’s to be expected given it’s the Australian cricket team
                  They have been at the heart of nearly every onfield and off field drama the last few years. They attract zero sympathy from anyone else.
                  Trawl through all the articles written about the issues on this tour and a large number are basically about sticking in the boot.
                  They have pissed off a lot of cricket fans for a while now. It’s their chance to kick them while they are down.

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                  @virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                  @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                  Yup.... lynch mob

                  Yep but it’s to be expected given it’s the Australian cricket team
                  They have been at the heart of nearly every onfield and off field drama the last few years. They attract zero sympathy from anyone else.
                  Trawl through all the articles written about the issues on this tour and a large number are basically about sticking in the boot.
                  They have pissed off a lot of cricket fans for a while now. It’s their chance to kick them while they are down.

                  A point well made in this article.

                  http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22898362/australia-line-becomes-their-noose

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                  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                    #337

                    some amusing stuff on Social media, some not

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                    • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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                      Baron Silas Greenback
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                      #338

                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                      Awkward. ....

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                      • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                        Awkward. ....

                        VirgilV Offline
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                        @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                        Awkward. ....

                        Never forgot that

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                        • VirgilV Virgil

                          @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                          Awkward. ....

                          Never forgot that

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                          canefan
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                          @virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                          @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                          Awkward. ....

                          Never forgot that

                          It reads like we were playing to the rules as dictated by the home side and administered by the umpires. Doesn't make it right of course....

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                          • No QuarterN Offline
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                            Doull suggested allowing ball tampering as long as the players don't use anything artificial, I.E. fingernails etc only. And also enforcing a new ball every 60 overs.

                            Wasn't quite sure what to make of that. Would be a dramatic change to test cricket, probably too bigger change.

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                            • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                              Awkward. ....

                              DonsteppaD Offline
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                              Donsteppa
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                              #342

                              @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                              Awkward. ....

                              Especially awkward for the teams that haven't moved on since the days of limited coverage and grainy footage. ...

                              Betting on cricket was also relatively less controversial if you rewind back another nine years too...

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                              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                                Awkward. ....

                                Especially awkward for the teams that haven't moved on since the days of limited coverage and grainy footage. ...

                                Betting on cricket was also relatively less controversial if you rewind back another nine years too...

                                Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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                                @donsteppa said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                                Awkward. ....

                                Especially awkward for the teams that haven't moved on since the days of limited coverage and grainy footage. ...

                                Betting on cricket was also relatively less controversial if you rewind back another nine years too...

                                Organized and planned cheating is organized and planned cheating. Regardless of justification.

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                                  http://www.theshovel.com.au/2018/03/25/dutton-offers-asylum-to-white-cricketers-under-attack-in-south-africa/

                                  Made I larf.

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                                    Australia captain Steve Smith and vice-captain David Warner have stood down from their respective leadership roles for the remainder of the third Test in Cape Town.

                                    Wicketkeeper Tim Paine will act as captain at Newlands, with both Smith and Warner set to take the field on Sunday

                                    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/steve-smith-david-warner-stand-down-cape-town-test-ball-tampering-investigation-tim-paine-captain/2018-03-25

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                                    • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                                      @donsteppa said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                      @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                                      Awkward. ....

                                      Especially awkward for the teams that haven't moved on since the days of limited coverage and grainy footage. ...

                                      Betting on cricket was also relatively less controversial if you rewind back another nine years too...

                                      Organized and planned cheating is organized and planned cheating. Regardless of justification.

                                      DonsteppaD Offline
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                                      Donsteppa
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                                      #346

                                      @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                      @donsteppa said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                      @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                                      Awkward. ....

                                      Especially awkward for the teams that haven't moved on since the days of limited coverage and grainy footage. ...

                                      Betting on cricket was also relatively less controversial if you rewind back another nine years too...

                                      Organized and planned cheating is organized and planned cheating. Regardless of justification.

                                      Context always plays a part. “Everyone was doing it/if you can’t beat them join them” isn’t much of a defence, but it was of the time and place. 2018, arguably much less so.

                                      People wanting to “ban them for life” need to think again, but I don’t think Mike Atherton or Chris Pringle back in the day should necessarily stop the rest of us having a laugh and a wry smile at the latest dramas from the team that always plays hard but fair, and knows where the line is...

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Australia captain Steve Smith and vice-captain David Warner have stood down from their respective leadership roles for the remainder of the third Test in Cape Town.

                                        Wicketkeeper Tim Paine will act as captain at Newlands, with both Smith and Warner set to take the field on Sunday

                                        https://www.cricket.com.au/news/steve-smith-david-warner-stand-down-cape-town-test-ball-tampering-investigation-tim-paine-captain/2018-03-25

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                                        @kiwimurph said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                        Australia captain Steve Smith and vice-captain David Warner have stood down from their respective leadership roles for the remainder of the third Test in Cape Town.

                                        Wicketkeeper Tim Paine will act as captain at Newlands, with both Smith and Warner set to take the field on Sunday

                                        https://www.cricket.com.au/news/steve-smith-david-warner-stand-down-cape-town-test-ball-tampering-investigation-tim-paine-captain/2018-03-25

                                        In a vain attempt to restore some integrity to proceedings an Australian wicketkeeper is trusted with not cheating.

                                        That's beautiful.

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                                        • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                                          Awkward. ....

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                                          @baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/102573254/when-new-zealand-ball-tampered-got-away-with-it-and-nearly-won-a-test-in-pakistan

                                          Awkward. ....

                                          How long go was that? Yeah really awkward ...

                                          Was flatting with a bloke at Uni who went to school with Parore. This bloke was pretty good age grade cricketer. AGS 1st XI. Played first grade club stuff in Akl. Hawke Cup level for Counties so knew people.

                                          That Pringle story was well known. The story went that this was pretty much the only time it worked. NZ's bowlers just weren't as quick as Waqar and Wasim who did the same shit ALL the time, but got late swing due to their extra pace .... alledgedly ... err ... hypothetically ...

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