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NFL 2017

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  • DiceD Offline
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    @mimic said in NFL 2017:

    Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
    Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

    Wentz and Goff would've been wasted at the Browns. Both of those guys had the luxury of being paired up with great OCs and QB coaches, as well as having good weapons(mainly in year 2), which the Browns don't have. They've also had offenses that have been tailored to their strengths, which surprisingly is not the most common thing in the NFL and wouldn't of been guaranteed at the Browns.

    @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

    @mimic said in NFL 2017:

    Still can't believe the Browns didn't take Wentz or Goff when they had the chance in the draft.
    Are these QBs any better than Wentz and Goff when entering the draft?

    It's the Browns....

    I rate Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Mayfield is getting a lot of love because he played at a famous football college so I don't know if that means he's any good in the NFL. Lamar Jackson could be a sneaky steal in the backend of the first round but mobile QBs tend to be figured out early on in their careers if they don't change their style.

    I like Darnold and Rosen as my top 2, but I think Allen is a massive risk for a team to draft in the 1st round. He has serious accuracy problems and only had half field reads in college, but he's big and has a cannon of an arm, so someone will bite.

    His arm is ridiculously strong though. He was clocked throwing 66mph in the senior bowl, which is insane. I've never seen that high a number before in regards to arm strength in the NFL. Still has nothing on Uncle Rico though.

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      Jags have released WR Allen Hurns. Another major free agent on the market who should sign with the 49ers 😉

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        Sam Darnold had a great outing at his pro day overnight - despite it raining throughout. He didn't throw at the Combine so all eyes were on him and he delivered.

        He would have to be the favourite to be drafted #1 overall. With Cleveland though you never know.

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          Jags have released WR Allen Hurns. Another major free agent on the market who should sign with the 49ers 😉

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          @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

          Jags have released WR Allen Hurns. Another major free agent on the market who should sign with the 49ers 😉

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          Doesn't seem like the 49ers are interested.

          https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/976802342061342720

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          • DiceD Dice

            @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

            Jags have released WR Allen Hurns. Another major free agent on the market who should sign with the 49ers 😉

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            Doesn't seem like the 49ers are interested.

            https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/976802342061342720

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Sam Darnold had a great outing at his pro day overnight - despite it raining throughout. He didn't throw at the Combine so all eyes were on him and he delivered.

              He would have to be the favourite to be drafted #1 overall. With Cleveland though you never know.

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              @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

              Sam Darnold had a great outing at his pro day overnight - despite it raining throughout. He didn't throw at the Combine so all eyes were on him and he delivered.

              He would have to be the favourite to be drafted #1 overall. With Cleveland though you never know.

              The Browns owner was talking with Darnold's family while he worked out - seems to be a lock to be the number 1 pick. If he isn't the Giants will probably take him but right now it looks like they will be drafting DE Chubb with their pick after trading one-handed Jason Pierre-Paul.

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                Terrelle Pryor signing with the Jets means that they now have the top QB, RB and WR... from the 2016 1-15 Brown's. Even more remarkable, none of those signings look that bad! (although not great either, and depends on the money for Pryor).

                Giants shipping out JPP is an interesting one. Drafting Chubb is one possibility. Equally they could be switching to rebuild and stockpiling draft picks with the opportunity to draft a top 2 qb. Feels like everyone in the league is falling in love with qb class. Will this be 1983 or 1998?

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                  Terrelle Pryor signing with the Jets means that they now have the top QB, RB and WR... from the 2016 1-15 Brown's. Even more remarkable, none of those signings look that bad! (although not great either, and depends on the money for Pryor).

                  Giants shipping out JPP is an interesting one. Drafting Chubb is one possibility. Equally they could be switching to rebuild and stockpiling draft picks with the opportunity to draft a top 2 qb. Feels like everyone in the league is falling in love with qb class. Will this be 1983 or 1998?

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                  @cyclops Apparently the 2019 QB class isn't that great so a lot of teams are trying to get a QB this year instead of having to wait until 2020 or 2021.

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                    Not good news for Michael Bennett, although I'm a bit suspicious about this.
                    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/977253379507355648

                    Funny response by the Blake Bortles Facts' account though.
                    https://twitter.com/BortlesFacts/status/977256511834673153

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                      Apparently Suh is headed to the Rams.
                      And rumours are that the Rams are chasing OBJ..

                      Heck that's a stacked team

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                        Not good for the QBs in the NFC West who all have bad Olines. #prayforsambradford

                        The Rams are going all in and they don't care if they potentially have the worst locker room in the league.

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                          He was bad in Miami. Was that about him losing it or the Dolphins?

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                            He was bad in Miami. Was that about him losing it or the Dolphins?

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                            @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                            He was bad in Miami. Was that about him losing it or the Dolphins?

                            For some reason, that's the perception, but he was still really good in Miami.

                            In the last 3 years, these were his rankings in key stats amongst all defensive tackles.

                            Sacks: 5th
                            QB Hits: 4th
                            QB Hurries: 2nd
                            Total Pressures: 4th

                            He's also close to the best amongst DTs as a run defender.

                            Alongside Aaron Donald, QBs will struggle to have much of a pocket against the Rams.

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                              @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                              He was bad in Miami. Was that about him losing it or the Dolphins?

                              For some reason, that's the perception, but he was still really good in Miami.

                              In the last 3 years, these were his rankings in key stats amongst all defensive tackles.

                              Sacks: 5th
                              QB Hits: 4th
                              QB Hurries: 2nd
                              Total Pressures: 4th

                              He's also close to the best amongst DTs as a run defender.

                              Alongside Aaron Donald, QBs will struggle to have much of a pocket against the Rams.

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                              @dice said in NFL 2017:

                              @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                              He was bad in Miami. Was that about him losing it or the Dolphins?

                              For some reason, that's the perception, but he was still really good in Miami.

                              In the last 3 years, these were his rankings in key stats amongst all defensive tackles.

                              Sacks: 5th
                              QB Hits: 4th
                              QB Hurries: 2nd
                              Total Pressures: 4th

                              He's also close to the best amongst DTs as a run defender.

                              Alongside Aaron Donald, QBs will struggle to have much of a pocket against the Rams.

                              Suh was bad for Miami relative to his contract/expectations. I think he was the highest paid defensive tackle in the league, but his production didn't match the pay cheque.

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                                @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

                                @dice said in NFL 2017:

                                @canefan said in NFL 2017:

                                He was bad in Miami. Was that about him losing it or the Dolphins?

                                For some reason, that's the perception, but he was still really good in Miami.

                                In the last 3 years, these were his rankings in key stats amongst all defensive tackles.

                                Sacks: 5th
                                QB Hits: 4th
                                QB Hurries: 2nd
                                Total Pressures: 4th

                                He's also close to the best amongst DTs as a run defender.

                                Alongside Aaron Donald, QBs will struggle to have much of a pocket against the Rams.

                                Suh was bad for Miami relative to his contract/expectations. I think he was the highest paid defensive tackle in the league, but his production didn't match the pay cheque.

                                This was a case of the contract being bad, but not the player. He was still a top DT, but the contract was just so big, it was always a tough one to live up to. The only DT who could probably play up to that contract is Aaron Donald.

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                                  #500

                                  The Rams are turning it around very quickly but here's hoping it implodes with too many alpha-males in the locker room.

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                                    A bit of an update on league boy, Jordan Mailata, who is trying to get drafted. Apparently he did well at his pro day.

                                    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000923837/article/massive-rugby-player-jordan-mailata-impresses-scouts-at-pro-day

                                    I can see him being an undrafted free agent and just being a camp body, but hard to see him being anything more. His athleticism for his size will be intriguing for some teams to want to at least take a look at him.

                                    I'm wondering what position they'd try him out in. You'd normally associate someone with his size with either an offensive tackle or defensive tackle.

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