Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@booboo said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback And for the record I have spoken to someone who has played with and against Warner about the very topic of sledging and abuse. And he is indeed pretty feral. Off the field he is apparently a bloody nice guy and less arrogant than most of his teamates. But nothing more than a number of other players. He just gets pumped on the field and crosses the line more often than others.
The reaction to him over this is disgusting and more feral than Warner.Oh good. He's a nice bloke away from cricket. That makes his on field behaviour ok then...
I'm sure we all have aspects of our lives where we act differently in different situations.
I'm sure some people can be really really nice when they're not posting on internet forums.
Where has anyone said that it his on field behaviour is ok?? Dont make stuff up and then argue agsint it. I said his on field behaviour is feral, and think comments about his off field personal life are low.
I agree about posting on forums . Just look at some of the ugly comments about his wife I highlighted.... keyboard warriors indeed.I find it difficult, in fact nearly impossible, to believe Warner is a nice guy off the field. Nice guys simply do not do what he does.
They don't spout anger relentlessly and the go all cry-baby when the retaliation is equally brutal. They don't cheat as soon as they look like losing. They don't spout cant about how they'd never do something and then do it. They don't use their kids as shields.
I'm sure he's a decent seeming fellow in the pub when everything is going well and everyone's having a laugh. I'm sure he loves his wife and family. I can even believe he's remorseful, for the moment.
But he'll be just like he always was after a season or two.
So, while I have not particularly laid into him in this thread, I don't think he's been hard done by.
People have been asking him to behave better for years and not only has he ignored them, but he has laughed at the requests. He himself showed little compassion for others caught ball tampering.
I'll show him exactly the same regard as he shows others.
If reports are even half to be believed, I will be joined by his team mates.
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Arguably the best headline of the series so far.
It’s a game to be enjoyed as well as a tough contest.
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Looks like a decent guy too
Strange not to be looking at the face of an Australian cricket player and think that’s punchable! -
@booboo said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback And for the record I have spoken to someone who has played with and against Warner about the very topic of sledging and abuse. And he is indeed pretty feral. Off the field he is apparently a bloody nice guy and less arrogant than most of his teamates. But nothing more than a number of other players. He just gets pumped on the field and crosses the line more often than others.
The reaction to him over this is disgusting and more feral than Warner.Oh good. He's a nice bloke away from cricket. That makes his on field behaviour ok then...
I'm sure we all have aspects of our lives where we act differently in different situations.
I'm sure some people can be really really nice when they're not posting on internet forums.
Where has anyone said that it his on field behaviour is ok?? Dont make stuff up and then argue agsint it. I said his on field behaviour is feral, and think comments about his off field personal life are low.
I agree about posting on forums . Just look at some of the ugly comments about his wife I highlighted.... keyboard warriors indeed.@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@booboo said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback And for the record I have spoken to someone who has played with and against Warner about the very topic of sledging and abuse. And he is indeed pretty feral. Off the field he is apparently a bloody nice guy and less arrogant than most of his teamates. But nothing more than a number of other players. He just gets pumped on the field and crosses the line more often than others.
The reaction to him over this is disgusting and more feral than Warner.Oh good. He's a nice bloke away from cricket. That makes his on field behaviour ok then...
I'm sure we all have aspects of our lives where we act differently in different situations.
I'm sure some people can be really really nice when they're not posting on internet forums.
Where has anyone said that it his on field behaviour is ok?? Dont make stuff up and then argue agsint it. I said his on field behaviour is feral, and think comments about his off field personal life are low.
I agree about posting on forums . Just look at some of the ugly comments about his wife I highlighted.... keyboard warriors indeed.Fair enough.
I was curious as to why you'd bring up his off field personality. Didn't seem relevant to his ban.
Separate to the above I found this tweet telling:
https://twitter.com/Trotty/status/978970105534189575?s=19 -
I find it difficult, in fact nearly impossible, to believe Warner is a nice guy off the field. Nice guys simply do not do what he does.
They don't spout anger relentlessly and the go all cry-baby when the retaliation is equally brutal. They don't cheat as soon as they look like losing. They don't spout cant about how they'd never do something and then do it. They don't use their kids as shields.
I'm sure he's a decent seeming fellow in the pub when everything is going well and everyone's having a laugh. I'm sure he loves his wife and family. I can even believe he's remorseful, for the moment.
But he'll be just like he always was after a season or two.
So, while I have not particularly laid into him in this thread, I don't think he's been hard done by.
People have been asking him to behave better for years and not only has he ignored them, but he has laughed at the requests. He himself showed little compassion for others caught ball tampering.
I'll show him exactly the same regard as he shows others.
If reports are even half to be believed, I will be joined by his team mates.
@chester-draws There was also the incident where he punched Joe Root.
On 12 June 2013, Warner was dropped for Australia's second match in 2013 ICC Champions Trophy match against New Zealand following an attack on an England cricketer.[56] It later emerged that this player was Joe Root. The event happened hours after Saturday's loss to England at Edgbaston. According to the sports journalist Pat Murphy, the incident took place at 2 am at the Walkabout bar in the centre of Birmingham, UK. On 13 June 2013, Cricket Australia announced that Warner was to be fined £7,000 (AU $11,500) and would not play for his country until the first Ashes Test on 10 July 2013. Warner subsequently missed the rest of the 2013 ICC Champions Trophy and the tour matches against Somerset and Worcestershire.[57]
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I can understand where the Warner is a good bloke chat comes from.
Most of us would have a mate who is a top bloke but turns into a total knob playing Monopoly or don’t ask him about topic X after he has had a few drinks in him.
Even in lower grade cricket in Aus and I imagine in NZ also, every team has a couple of over-competitive dickheads on the field who the others tolerate. The difference is off the field they are accountants or brickies and relatively normal blokes, Warner is a dickhead professionally.
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Did people listen to Warner's press conference? It sounds like a lawyer told him exactly what to say and what not to say.
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Did people listen to Warner's press conference? It sounds like a lawyer told him exactly what to say and what not to say.
Yup all the cliches were accounted for..
Cry
Mentioned love of wife and kids
Remorse
Let team mates down
Will change my ways (lol)
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"In the coming weeks I will look at who I am as a man."
Ill save you the time, your a fluffybunny. Bye
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Poor bugger, wrenched his way through a painful apology and then had to field questions from lying vultures intent on more muck raking.
Humanity would be someone telling him to go home to his family and end the press conference
Warners done his crime and he'll do the time. Archetypal lessons learnt and examples set, end of story now...I wish
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Did people listen to Warner's press conference? It sounds like a lawyer told him exactly what to say and what not to say.
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@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Did people listen to Warner's press conference? It sounds like a lawyer told him exactly what to say and what not to say.
No different from Smith. He cuts a more sympathetic figure
@canefan said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Did people listen to Warner's press conference? It sounds like a lawyer told him exactly what to say and what not to say.
No different from Smith. He cuts a more sympathetic figure
Didn't listen to his press conference but it didn't sound like it was as formulaic as Warner's.
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@canefan said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Did people listen to Warner's press conference? It sounds like a lawyer told him exactly what to say and what not to say.
No different from Smith. He cuts a more sympathetic figure
Didn't listen to his press conference but it didn't sound like it was as formulaic as Warner's.
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@canefan said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Did people listen to Warner's press conference? It sounds like a lawyer told him exactly what to say and what not to say.
No different from Smith. He cuts a more sympathetic figure
Didn't listen to his press conference but it didn't sound like it was as formulaic as Warner's.
His delivery was better. Bancroft seemed quite believable until you saw him putting all that sugar in his pocket a while back. Now you wonder how long they've been actually cheating for
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Poor bugger, wrenched his way through a painful apology and then had to field questions from lying vultures intent on more muck raking.
Humanity would be someone telling him to go home to his family and end the press conference
Warners done his crime and he'll do the time. Archetypal lessons learnt and examples set, end of story now...I wish
@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Poor bugger, wrenched his way through a painful apology and then had to field questions from lying vultures intent on more muck raking.
Humanity would be someone telling him to go home to his family and end the press conference
His decision to hold a press conference. If he (and Smith) wanted to simply to read a prepared speech, he could have had someone record it on their phone. Or have the transcript provided to the press. But if you want to use the fourth estate to resurrect your playing career or earning capacity in the future, don't forget it's a two way street...
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@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Poor bugger, wrenched his way through a painful apology and then had to field questions from lying vultures intent on more muck raking.
Humanity would be someone telling him to go home to his family and end the press conference
His decision to hold a press conference. If he (and Smith) wanted to simply to read a prepared speech, he could have had someone record it on their phone. Or have the transcript provided to the press. But if you want to use the fourth estate to resurrect your playing career or earning capacity in the future, don't forget it's a two way street...
@antipodean oh ok I didn't realise he'd set the format.
I think the world's got the message across to David now, be nice to let him serve his punishment in peace
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I only caught a couple of minutes... All I saw was him saying he was sorry about the consequences of his actions. So basically saying he's sorry he got caught? Pretty honest.
@bones said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I only caught a couple of minutes... All I saw was him saying he was sorry about the consequences of his actions. So basically saying he's sorry he got caught? Pretty honest.
Yup is he sorry...
For doing the wrong thing?
Doing the wrong thing and getting caught ?
Or doing the wrong thing, getting caught and losing millions of dollars ?
