Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens
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@stargazer said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b And we all know how that tournament ended. The only good XVs players in that squad were the Ioane's. SBW was very average in the World Series tournaments he played, and so were Ardie and Messam.
I guess that's a matter for Titch's decisions.
The obvious point is that the best rugby players in NZ choose to play XVs. The Sevens get the leftovers. Yes - in the short run those guys become the best Sevens players, but I am amazed if anyone is thinking this is the best team we could possibly develop.
And if they're not arguing that, why are they wasting my time.
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@steven-harris said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Awesome..!,if you have asked me at the beginning of the day on our chances of both teams,I would have said our ladies were about a 95% chance and our men with this squad,maybe 65% or 70%..great double..!
Gee you're an optimist.
I'd gave said 50/50 and about 20%
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@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@steven-harris said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Awesome..!,if you have asked me at the beginning of the day on our chances of both teams,I would have said our ladies were about a 95% chance and our men with this squad,maybe 65% or 70%..great double..!
Really?
You're certainly a glass half full person SH. The Blues must be a constant disappointment to you.
I would have said Women 40%. Men 20%.
Ha. Pessimist
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dont care if this has been posted....
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
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@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@tim said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Even if you included XVs players then Damien McKenzie and Rieko Ioane would probably be the only certainties.
What?
There's no-one in that sevens squad who is in the top 150 rugby players in NZ.
Trael Joass isn't a first choice starter for the Mako$ and Knewstubb doesn't even make last season's squad.
What you've just said makes no sense at all... Unless you're talking about the Mako$ Sevens squad.
Seriously - you think Knewstubb is making the NZ Sevens team if Beauden Barrett decides to focus on sevens?
Joass is pushing out SBW?
But he is not
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@taniwharugby said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
dont care if this has been posted....
I'm MORE than happy to watch it again... and again.. and again....
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@taniwharugby That is a great sporting moment, IMO, particularly with the drama involved, and will see a lot of replays.
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@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@stargazer said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b And we all know how that tournament ended. The only good XVs players in that squad were the Ioane's. SBW was very average in the World Series tournaments he played, and so were Ardie and Messam.
I guess that's a matter for Titch's decisions.
The obvious point is that the best rugby players in NZ choose to play XVs. The Sevens get the leftovers. Yes - in the short run those guys become the best Sevens players, but I am amazed if anyone is thinking this is the best team we could possibly develop.
And if they're not arguing that, why are they wasting my time.
XVs and 7s are not fishing in entirely the same pool. There are plenty of professional XVs players, who would never be good enough for higher level sevens.
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@booboo said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@chris-b said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@tim said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Even if you included XVs players then Damien McKenzie and Rieko Ioane would probably be the only certainties.
What?
There's no-one in that sevens squad who is in the top 150 rugby players in NZ.
Trael Joass isn't a first choice starter for the Mako$ and Knewstubb doesn't even make last season's squad.
What you've just said makes no sense at all... Unless you're talking about the Mako$ Sevens squad.
Seriously - you think Knewstubb is making the NZ Sevens team if Beauden Barrett decides to focus on sevens?
Joass is pushing out SBW?
But he is not
Neither are Rieko or Dmac, which was Tim's initial point!
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
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who cares who was or wasnt available...check this out, awesome way to finish a game
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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No they're not. Are you saying these guys are better rugby players than all their 15s counterparts now?
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@taniwharugby said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
who cares who was or wasnt available...check this out, awesome way to finish a game
By far the most relevant and excellent point!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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No they're not. Are you saying these guys are better rugby players than all their 15s counterparts now?
Definitely. Their 15s counterparts aren't even playing Sevens. Is it a shame for you when you watch the 100m final and the best runners are missing because they don't run the 100m?
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@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@bones said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Commonwealth Games - Rugby Sevens:
Gee Fiji were utter shit. Good for us for them to bring that in the gold medal game.
Not a big fan of 7s, particularly without the top players, but I enjoyed that.
What top players were missing?
You're kidding right?
What? I can't think of the top players missing, that's not far off our strongest squad.
Ahem. How about the Super roster? The major European club comps. That's what I meant by top players. I totally recognise they are different games that require different skill sets, but unfortunately the best rugby players on the planet are not there.
There's a super roster of Sevens players? Major European club comp for Sevens? Gee I had no idea they were hogging all those players. That's a shame for the commonwealth games.
You know what I'm talking about. Don't be an idiot.
Oh so you're talking about good XVs players when discussing Sevens players. Makes perfect sense. Yes must be me being an idiot huh...
Cmon Bones, don't be a tool. I was merely saying that it's unfortunate that the best rugby players on the planet aren't there. I acknowledge this isn't possible these days and that the games are very different. You think all the same players would be there if the 15s players had the same training and build up?
How about you quit with the usual name calling just because you can't understand something simple? Seems to be a very common occurrence.
The best Sevens players ARE there. Tell me the better Sevens players that are missing.
When did I say the best available Sevens players aren't there? I didn't and you know it. I've been quite clear about what I've meant but you've insisted on completely avoiding that. Seems a very common occurrence...
You said the best rugby players aren't there. They are.
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No they're not. Are you saying these guys are better rugby players than all their 15s counterparts now?
Definitely. Their 15s counterparts aren't even playing Sevens. Is it a shame for you when you watch the 100m final and the best runners are missing because they don't run the 100m?
Or the guys who win the US softball champs, because the best guys are playing baseball.
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