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Blues 2018

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    Awesome try to Japan. Tuitama earns a yellow card for taking someone out in the air. I'd have to see a replay of that, but my initial thought was that he was going to have red.

    It's 27 all.

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      Japan makes good use of the one-man-more and score after the hooter.

      Full time: Blues 'A' 27 - 34 Japan 'A'

      Japan 'A' wins its second game in NZ and will play Hurricanes Development next week.

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        Fun fact: the Chairman of the Blues board is also a director of Fletcher Building.

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          Fun fact: the Chairman of the Blues board is also a director of Fletcher Building.

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          @tim said in Blues 2018:

          Fun fact: the Chairman of the Blues board is also a director of Fletcher Building.

          ha ha, clearly expert in not knowing what the hell is going on in the organisations 🙂

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            Another board member, Kate Daly, was their HR person until recently.

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              http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/6947b340/the-best-and-the-worst-managers.html

              Murray Bolton

              This audacious former management buyout dealmaker has been off the corporate scene for years, but his management style came under the spotlight this month when he and three other directors of Skellerup subsidiary DML Resources paid $7 million to settle a reckless trading case. Maine Investments-linked companies DML, Levene's and Palmers Garden Centres collapsed under the weight of debt after the Bolton-led MBO.

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                You couldn't accuse the Blues of overspending!

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  You couldn't accuse the Blues of overspending!

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                  @bovidae What's your view on Redman?

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                    Redman was well thought of as mayor but his time as the CEO is certainly tainted by the V8 debacle. He did have a background in sports, including being one of the founders of the Breakers.

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                      Interesting article

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fix-blues-teams-blues-arent

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                        I can't say I'm convinced by Tana, but I agree that the problems run far deeper.
                        A competitive Blues team naturally follows from Auckland being in the top two or three in the Mitre 10.
                        With all the resources this in fact the MINIMUM which ought to be acceptable to the Auckland union.
                        Reminds me of what happened to Transvaal, traditionally the strongest Bok province, but for many years reduced to whipping boys.
                        Don't know how they changed things, but as long suffering Blues supporter 'I want what they had'!

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                          Interesting article

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fix-blues-teams-blues-arent

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                          @machpants I found this bit illuminating:
                          Currently, every player that grew up outside of the Blues region that is on the Blues roster did not go through a Blues academy. Meaning, they went through someone else’s academy and that franchise let them go.

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                            @machpants I found this bit illuminating:
                            Currently, every player that grew up outside of the Blues region that is on the Blues roster did not go through a Blues academy. Meaning, they went through someone else’s academy and that franchise let them go.

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                            @antipodean

                            That line from the article is an exaggeration. Saying other franchises ‘let them go’ is more dramatic but isn’t always accurate. Some players were offered contracts by their local franchise and the Blues.. then they opted for the Blues (more money or more opportunities in a particular position)

                            The article also misses an important point about Blues academy players being poached by other teams. This happens because Kirwan/Umaga have been poor at promoting the good players that were under their own noses. Also, players will opt to play for a well coached full side if they have multiple options.

                            A chicken and the egg situation.. Yup the wider organisation has problems but I see this as another article absolving the celebrity coach of responsibility.
                            There is no accountability at the Blues. No media pressure on the board or coaches, no expectation on the players.

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                            • P pakman

                              I can't say I'm convinced by Tana, but I agree that the problems run far deeper.
                              A competitive Blues team naturally follows from Auckland being in the top two or three in the Mitre 10.
                              With all the resources this in fact the MINIMUM which ought to be acceptable to the Auckland union.
                              Reminds me of what happened to Transvaal, traditionally the strongest Bok province, but for many years reduced to whipping boys.
                              Don't know how they changed things, but as long suffering Blues supporter 'I want what they had'!

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                              @pakman said in Blues 2018:

                              Transvaal

                              Digressing.

                              But Transvaal are not traditionally the strongest Bok province. Northern Transvaal and Western Province far and away the top two (equivalent of Auckland and Canterbury).

                              Transvaal more like Wellington. The traditional big under achiever.

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                                @antipodean

                                That line from the article is an exaggeration. Saying other franchises ‘let them go’ is more dramatic but isn’t always accurate. Some players were offered contracts by their local franchise and the Blues.. then they opted for the Blues (more money or more opportunities in a particular position)

                                The article also misses an important point about Blues academy players being poached by other teams. This happens because Kirwan/Umaga have been poor at promoting the good players that were under their own noses. Also, players will opt to play for a well coached full side if they have multiple options.

                                A chicken and the egg situation.. Yup the wider organisation has problems but I see this as another article absolving the celebrity coach of responsibility.
                                There is no accountability at the Blues. No media pressure on the board or coaches, no expectation on the players.

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                                @duluth that article, along with others mentions the likes of Jack Goodhue, who was never going to stay due to education, so he (and others in similar circumstances) was never really 'lost' to the Blues.

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                                  According to the Blues' instagram, Blake Gibson is back training with the team now.

                                  https://www.instagram.com/stories/bluesrugbyteam/

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                                    According to the Blues' instagram, Blake Gibson is back training with the team now.

                                    https://www.instagram.com/stories/bluesrugbyteam/

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                                    @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                    According to the Blues' instagram, Blake Gibson is back training with the team now.

                                    https://www.instagram.com/stories/bluesrugbyteam/

                                    alt text

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                      According to the Blues' instagram, Blake Gibson is back training with the team now.

                                      https://www.instagram.com/stories/bluesrugbyteam/

                                      alt text

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                                      @nepia said in Blues 2018:

                                      @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                      According to the Blues' instagram, Blake Gibson is back training with the team now.

                                      https://www.instagram.com/stories/bluesrugbyteam/

                                      alt text

                                      Is Charlie Ngatai ok with you using his image for someone else?

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @nepia said in Blues 2018:

                                        @tim said in Blues 2018:

                                        According to the Blues' instagram, Blake Gibson is back training with the team now.

                                        https://www.instagram.com/stories/bluesrugbyteam/

                                        alt text

                                        Is Charlie Ngatai ok with you using his image for someone else?

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                                        @mn5 I think he's ok as long as you don't use the words Maori Jesus.

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                                          Blake Gibson has been consistently good for years, not sure what Nepia has been watching.

                                          He’s been a huge loss for us this year. Pryor is fine, but more a bench player and prone to silly penalties.

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