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  • MilkM Milk

    The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

    I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

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    @milk said in Chiefs 2018:

    The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

    I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

    It is a surprise of sorts. That said, I think Harris is a good scrummager and Tu’inukuafe was also said to be when he joined. When Ta’avao joined Waratahs the press release said that he'd been recommended by Benn Robinson, the Wallaby LH. It may be his problems at the Blues were down to those around him. In that regard Patty T seems to be hopeless at channeling his undoubted power at scrum time. In contrast, teams with BBBR at 4 seldom take a backward step!

    Read somewhere that Hames has been 'coaching, and he certainly knows one end of a scrum from the other.

    Unless Nick White is the man!

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      @milk said in Chiefs 2018:

      The Chiefs scrum... are we seeing the birth of the next great scrum coach in Nick White?

      I just don't understand the dominance we're seeing from our scrum with the cattle available.

      It is a surprise of sorts. That said, I think Harris is a good scrummager and Tu’inukuafe was also said to be when he joined. When Ta’avao joined Waratahs the press release said that he'd been recommended by Benn Robinson, the Wallaby LH. It may be his problems at the Blues were down to those around him. In that regard Patty T seems to be hopeless at channeling his undoubted power at scrum time. In contrast, teams with BBBR at 4 seldom take a backward step!

      Read somewhere that Hames has been 'coaching, and he certainly knows one end of a scrum from the other.

      Unless Nick White is the man!

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      @pakman said in Chiefs 2018:

      Read somewhere that Hames has been 'coaching, and he certainly knows one end of a scrum from the other.

      Interesting point. He comes across as a real student of the scrum. Good point about Ta’avao too, maybe he's got a bad rap.

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        Ta’avao would have to be near the top of the list if an AB TH prop fell over.

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          Ta'avao was starting way too early in his career. I think he would have better earlier if he was eased into SR and his confidence hadn't taken a beating.
          He got exposed and that set his reputation.

          By the end of his time at the Blues his scrum work was just inconsistent. Mostly ok, then one shocker of a scrum.
          The other frustrating thing about him was the errors around the field. His hands were awful and that added to his negative reputation.

          I remember his error rate really costing him in his two years a the Tahs too. Didn't start much, was exclusively a bench player in his second year and ultimately not wanted

          He left the Blues at 25 and is now 28. He's not the first prop to get better later in his 20's. Still relatively young.. hopefully he goes well into his 30's

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              The poor kid is having a shocking run this year with injuries, would be better than Marty warming the bench

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                Sorry, what is the RTP crew? Ready to Party????? Retired to pasture? Surely not retiring?

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                  Return to play i think

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                    June break friendly:

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                      Tyler Ardron ruled out for Canada with concussion. Brodie out 6 weeks. Seu and Brown out for season. Could be a testing time for locks for rest of the season. Will Cooper risk Laghlan McWhannell after U20s finals?

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                        Tyler Ardron ruled out for Canada with concussion. Brodie out 6 weeks. Seu and Brown out for season. Could be a testing time for locks for rest of the season. Will Cooper risk Laghlan McWhannell after U20s finals?

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                        @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                        Tyler Ardron ruled out for Canada with concussion. Brodie out 6 weeks. Seu and Brown out for season. Could be a testing time for locks for rest of the season. Will Cooper risk Laghlan McWhannell after U20s finals?

                        Isn't Harris now crocked too?

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                          Found on Cambridge HS FB page:

                          Chiefs U18 2018
                          8th July – 14th July 2018 St Paul’s Collegiate, Hamilton

                          Selection

                          Prop
                          Corrigan Miller (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki) Leuatea Alo Tema (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Zac Ririnui (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Vincent Green (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Connor Brunton (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Pou Sorenson (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Nirai Ririnui (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Tutarangi Anderson (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki)

                          Hooker
                          Bernie Hati (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Keelan Holten McMullen (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Taane Beech (Wesley College, Counties) Mairenga Laapo (Francis Douglas Memorial College, Taranaki)

                          Lock
                          Josh Lord (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Tom Martin (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Alex McRobbie (Counties) Daniel Johnson (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato) AJ Lagalaga Slade (Manurewa HS, Counties) Hemopo Cunningham (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty)

                          Loose Forward
                          Simon Parker (St Peter’s School, Waikato) Te Aparua Tata (Te Wharekura o Mauao, Bay Of Plenty) Jake Russ (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Gabrielle Wilson (Pukekohe HS, Counties) Taituha Woller (Te Wharekura o Mauao, Bay Of Plenty)
                          Thor Manase (Wesley College, Counties) Tuki Simpkins (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Simione Ofa (Wesley College, Counties) Shie Jie Yong (Tauranga BC, Bay Of Plenty) Te Rama Reuben (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty)

                          Halfback
                          Cortez Lee Ratima (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Manu Paea (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Kristian Standen (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki) Tepaea Cook Savage (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato)

                          First Five
                          Rivez Reihana (Waikato) Larenz Tupaea (Wesley College, Counties)

                          Midfield
                          Jacob Kneepkins (Francis Douglas Memorial College, Taranaki) Daniel Rona (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki) Jon Taumateine (Wesley College, Counties) Cassius Misa (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) William Guthrie (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki) Lucas Hall (Taranaki) Paula Mahe (St Peter’s School, Waikato) Gideon Wrampling (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato)

                          Wing
                          Manu Akauola (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Valynce Te Whare Crosby (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato) Nicholas Nasila (Wesley College, Counties) Kahi Borrell (Te Wharekura o Mauao, Bay Of Plenty)

                          Fullback
                          Selestino Ravutaumada (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Liam Wilson (Hamilton BHS, Waikato) Tama Te Aute (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty) Jermahl Hapi (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki)

                          Standby Players
                          Tauhuroa Ngataki (Wesley College, Counties), Zion Lui (St Peter’s School, Waikato), Shannon Wiki (Tokoroa HS, Waikato), Reece Gray (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki), Havila Molia (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato), Stuart Leech (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty), TeAhurei Eparara (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty), Lachie Deveraux (Tauranga BC, Bay Of Plenty), Vaiolini Ekuasi (St Peter’s School, Waikato), Liam Allen (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato), Malupo Ma’afu (Rotorua BHS, Bay Of Plenty), Thomas Murray Edwards (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki), Brigham Moeakiola (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato), Cam Roigard (St Peter’s School, Waikato), Louis Grindrod (Tauranga BC, Bay Of Plenty), Bailey Gordon (Western Heights HS, Bay Of Plenty), Adam Smith (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki), Josh Calvert (Hamilton BHS, Waikato), Teaabo Teaabo (Pukekohe HS, Counties), Lewini Mocevakaca (Hamilton BHS, Waikato), Mercedes Hodge (St Paul’s Collegiate, Waikato)

                          Unavailable due to Injury or other commitments
                          Taharoa Mita (Tauranga BC, Bay Of Plenty) Blair Murray (New Plymouth BHS, Taranaki)

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                            https://www.facebook.com/chiefsrugby/videos/10156522198867210/

                            live stream of game

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                              Courtesy of the Chiefs. Team list for the friendly v Hurricanes last week:

                              1. Sam Prattley

                              2. Liam Polwart

                              3. Angus Ta’avao

                              4. Michael Allardice

                              5. Sam Caird

                              6. Luke Jacobson

                              7. Mitchell Karpik (blank jersey)

                              8. Pita Gus Sowakula

                              9. Brad Weber

                              10. Marty McKenzie

                              11. Shaun Stevenson

                              12. Charlie Ngatai (c)

                              13. Sean Wainui

                              14. Toni Pulu

                              15. Solomon Alaimalo

                              16. Samisoni Taukei’aho

                              17. Ayden Johnstone

                              18. Jeff Thwaites

                              19. Jack Jordan

                              20. Liam Messam

                              21. Jonathan Taumateine

                              22. Luteru Laulala

                              23. Johnny Faauli

                              24. Nigel Ah Wong

                              25. Ciahahn Matoe

                              26. Matt Matich

                              27. Daniel Waite (blank jersey)

                              The very new names are Jack Jordan and Daniel Waite. Matoe and Johnstone have been playing Waikato club rugby and Ah Wong has Super rugby experience.

                              The significant point is the continued absence of several players: Falcon, Verney, Aumua, McNicol, Ardron, Boshier, Seu, Laulala, Kautai. But Ardron and Boshier might be back this weekend. Not much luck on the injury front, while Highlanders seem to have a full squad to choose from.

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                                The Waikato Times article says that Cooper made a lot of changes at HT in that game. There was also a strong wind which was behind the Chiefs in the 1st half and with the Canes in the 2nd half. A classic game of two halves.

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                                  Courtesy of the Chiefs. Team list for the friendly v Hurricanes last week:

                                  1. Sam Prattley

                                  2. Liam Polwart

                                  3. Angus Ta’avao

                                  4. Michael Allardice

                                  5. Sam Caird

                                  6. Luke Jacobson

                                  7. Mitchell Karpik (blank jersey)

                                  8. Pita Gus Sowakula

                                  9. Brad Weber

                                  10. Marty McKenzie

                                  11. Shaun Stevenson

                                  12. Charlie Ngatai (c)

                                  13. Sean Wainui

                                  14. Toni Pulu

                                  15. Solomon Alaimalo

                                  16. Samisoni Taukei’aho

                                  17. Ayden Johnstone

                                  18. Jeff Thwaites

                                  19. Jack Jordan

                                  20. Liam Messam

                                  21. Jonathan Taumateine

                                  22. Luteru Laulala

                                  23. Johnny Faauli

                                  24. Nigel Ah Wong

                                  25. Ciahahn Matoe

                                  26. Matt Matich

                                  27. Daniel Waite (blank jersey)

                                  The very new names are Jack Jordan and Daniel Waite. Matoe and Johnstone have been playing Waikato club rugby and Ah Wong has Super rugby experience.

                                  The significant point is the continued absence of several players: Falcon, Verney, Aumua, McNicol, Ardron, Boshier, Seu, Laulala, Kautai. But Ardron and Boshier might be back this weekend. Not much luck on the injury front, while Highlanders seem to have a full squad to choose from.

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                                  @arhs said in Chiefs 2018:

                                  Courtesy of the Chiefs. Team list for the friendly v Hurricanes last week:

                                  1. Sam Prattley

                                  2. Liam Polwart

                                  3. Angus Ta’avao

                                  4. Michael Allardice

                                  5. Sam Caird

                                  6. Luke Jacobson

                                  7. Mitchell Karpik (blank jersey)

                                  8. Pita Gus Sowakula

                                  9. Brad Weber

                                  10. Marty McKenzie

                                  11. Shaun Stevenson

                                  12. Charlie Ngatai (c)

                                  13. Sean Wainui

                                  14. Toni Pulu

                                  15. Solomon Alaimalo

                                  16. Samisoni Taukei’aho

                                  17. Ayden Johnstone

                                  18. Jeff Thwaites

                                  19. Jack Jordan

                                  20. Liam Messam

                                  21. Jonathan Taumateine

                                  22. Luteru Laulala

                                  23. Johnny Faauli

                                  24. Nigel Ah Wong

                                  25. Ciahahn Matoe

                                  26. Matt Matich

                                  27. Daniel Waite (blank jersey)

                                  The very new names are Jack Jordan and Daniel Waite. Matoe and Johnstone have been playing Waikato club rugby and Ah Wong has Super rugby experience.

                                  The significant point is the continued absence of several players: Falcon, Verney, Aumua, McNicol, Ardron, Boshier, Seu, Laulala, Kautai. But Ardron and Boshier might be back this weekend. Not much luck on the injury front, while Highlanders seem to have a full squad to choose from.

                                  Maybe you didn't notice it, but Levi Aumua was named in the Ta$man squad for yesterday's preseason game against Counties.

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                                    Just read on his instagram that Tiaan Falcon may possibly be back playing next weekend, but he doesn't know where yet (club rugby in Hawke's Bay or Waikato).

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                                      Just read on his instagram that Tiaan Falcon may possibly be back playing next weekend, but he doesn't know where yet (club rugby in Hawke's Bay or Waikato).

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                                      @stargazer

                                      I thought in 2nd half yesterday that Marty M was being prepared to start v Brumbies next week. If DMac is rested, and saved for Hurricanes, then Falcon is a week late... Maybe Luteru Laulala on the bench next week?

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                                        DMac and ALB both need to be rested for one of the next 2 games, so logically the Brumbies. Hopefully Charlie's injury isn't too bad as a midfield without either of them gives me the shits.

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                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12080918

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