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All Blacks v France Test #1

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @stargazer said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

    @kirwan Hmmm, not keen on that. Too much of an experiment.

    Like DMac isn’t?

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    @kirwan I'm not keen on Dmac for the first 5/8 role at all. Mo'unga should be the 10 cover from the bench.

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      @shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

      I know we all know this...but seriously, how good is Rieko? England can only dreeeeeam of such wingers....instead they have to make do with Brad Shields...

      He's a loose forward but ok, interesting analogy.

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      @mn5 said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

      @shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

      I know we all know this...but seriously, how good is Rieko? England can only dreeeeeam of such wingers....instead they have to make do with Brad Shields...

      He's a loose forward but ok interesting analogy.

      Given they've got Brown on the left wing Shields is probably a chance if he wants to convert.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @kirwan I'm not keen on Dmac for the first 5/8 role at all. Mo'unga should be the 10 cover from the bench.

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        @stargazer said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

        @kirwan I'm not keen on Dmac for the first 5/8 role at all. Mo'unga should be the 10 cover from the bench.

        He’s too much of a step down. He’s far from ready.

        Only really there because he’s the best of the rest, 10 depth is poor all of a sudden.

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          I think they plan to play beuadie 80 minutes each week ,

          Much like they did with carter ,

          Rolling the dice on dmac as cover , getting him experience at 10 to cover the emergency if it happens ,

          But only comes on as a tactical replacement at 15

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            I think they plan to play beuadie 80 minutes each week ,

            Much like they did with carter ,

            Rolling the dice on dmac as cover , getting him experience at 10 to cover the emergency if it happens ,

            But only comes on as a tactical replacement at 15

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            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

            I think they plan to play beuadie 80 minutes each week ,

            Much like they did with carter ,

            Rolling the dice on dmac as cover , getting him experience at 10 to cover the emergency if it happens ,

            But only comes on as a tactical replacement at 15

            And get Jordie experience as first receiver, like Dagg and B.B. did from 15, and develop him too.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @stargazer said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

              @kirwan I'm not keen on Dmac for the first 5/8 role at all. Mo'unga should be the 10 cover from the bench.

              He’s too much of a step down. He’s far from ready.

              Only really there because he’s the best of the rest, 10 depth is poor all of a sudden.

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              @kirwan Mo'unga too much of a step down? Not all. I guess you haven't seen much of him if you say that. Just lacking experience at test level, but he needs to get his test experience at some point, because he needs to be ready come RWC time.

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                3 - Taylor
                2 - L. Whitelock
                1 - J. Barrett

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                  And if beudan gets injured Richie starts , dmac stays on the bench

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                    In very surprising news, BB has only kicked 4/9.

                    A tad harsh. They were all on the sideline. Should have nailed at least one of those though.

                    :::

                    Given they were pretty much all out there you would hope he’d adjust. He didn’t.

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                    @act-crusader said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                    In very surprising news, BB has only kicked 4/9.

                    A tad harsh. They were all on the sideline. Should have nailed at least one of those though.

                    :::

                    Given they were pretty much all out there you would hope he’d adjust. He didn’t.

                    Yeah, it was ordinary, but it wasn't like last year when he was missing the easier ones. Jordies effort was a bit disappointing. He usually lands those.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @kirwan Mo'unga too much of a step down? Not all. I guess you haven't seen much of him if you say that. Just lacking experience at test level, but he needs to get his test experience at some point, because he needs to be ready come RWC time.

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                      @stargazer said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                      @kirwan Mo'unga too much of a step down? Not all. I guess you haven't seen much of him if you say that. Just lacking experience at test level, but he needs to get his test experience at some point, because he needs to be ready come RWC time.

                      He's a big step down, but, he's improved a lot and like you I'd like to see him at test level to see if he can make the step up. They've got him in camp now so are undoubtably working on the parts of his game he needs to focus on.

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                        Forgot to have a verbal orgasm over Taylor. How good was he? Maybe no need for Coles anymore?

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @kirwan Mo'unga too much of a step down? Not all. I guess you haven't seen much of him if you say that. Just lacking experience at test level, but he needs to get his test experience at some point, because he needs to be ready come RWC time.

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                          @stargazer said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                          @kirwan Mo'unga too much of a step down? Not all. I guess you haven't seen much of him if you say that. Just lacking experience at test level, but he needs to get his test experience at some point, because he needs to be ready come RWC time.

                          Seen him plenty, just don’t rate him. The fact the coaches are desperate to convert a fullback(maybe two) to ten show where he fits in the scheme of things.

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                          • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                            Forgot to have a verbal orgasm over Taylor. How good was he? Maybe no need for Coles anymore?

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                            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                            Forgot to have a verbal orgasm over Taylor. How good was he? Maybe no need for Coles anymore?

                            He doesn't quite have Coles' running game but he is just world class in everything he does. He's a bloke that has worked tirelessly to maximise his talent and he (and the ABs) are reaping the benefits now.

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                            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                              Forgot to have a verbal orgasm over Taylor. How good was he? Maybe no need for Coles anymore?

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                              @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                              Forgot to have a verbal orgasm over Taylor. How good was he? Maybe no need for Coles anymore?

                              Definitely need both, but there is no worry starting Taylor. That might have been his best game?

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @kirwan Mo'unga too much of a step down? Not all. I guess you haven't seen much of him if you say that. Just lacking experience at test level, but he needs to get his test experience at some point, because he needs to be ready come RWC time.

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                                kev
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                                @stargazer I’m with you Richie is class and will make step up no issue.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                                  Forgot to have a verbal orgasm over Taylor. How good was he? Maybe no need for Coles anymore?

                                  He doesn't quite have Coles' running game but he is just world class in everything he does. He's a bloke that has worked tirelessly to maximise his talent and he (and the ABs) are reaping the benefits now.

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                                  @no-quarter said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                                  @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                                  Forgot to have a verbal orgasm over Taylor. How good was he? Maybe no need for Coles anymore?

                                  He doesn't quite have Coles' running game but he is just world class in everything he does. He's a bloke that has worked tirelessly to maximise his talent and he (and the ABs) are reaping the benefits now.

                                  Yep. He was always solid, now he's on another level. Shit he was good.

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                                    @stargazer I’m with you Richie is class and will make step up no issue.

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                                    @kev said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                                    @stargazer I’m with you Richie is class and will make step up no issue.

                                    Put Perofeta behind that Crusaders pack he would look a different player. Vice Versa Mounga to the Blues.

                                    He has a long way to go to erase that Lions performance, when he didn’t have his Super Rugby armchair ride - which he won’t have in Tests.

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                                      Good second half.
                                      The yellow card thing has been covered. Not a good call. Cane lucky not to cop a card. French just gave up after the card though and deserved to get flogged. They didn't really threaten with the ball either.

                                      Taylor probably my MOTM. Jordie and Rieko not far behind.
                                      Dmac and Laumape good off the bench. Dmac showed what he can do when he doesn't just run sideways. Still bombed that try near the end though. Had a support player inside unmarked.

                                      Biggest concerns were the back row and midfield.
                                      Back tow were pretty anonymous. Very little go forward. Cane off his best but hasn't played for a while. Still can't understand why Akira wasn't picked.

                                      Crotty/ALB were ok once ALB stopped dropping it but Laumape showed how valuable a hard ball runner is. Would live to see Crotty/Goodhue start while SBW is out. Laumape can stay as the bench impact.

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                                        Cane deserved a yellow but Ofa was a shoulder to head, he'll get cited I think

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          Cane deserved a yellow but Ofa was a shoulder to head, he'll get cited I think

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                                          @machpants said in All Blacks v France Test #1:

                                          Cane deserved a yellow but Ofa was a shoulder to head, he'll get cited I think

                                          Yeah i think ofa might be in a bit of trouble there. Unless they come up with some sort of mitigating circumstances like they did with Squire last week.

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