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All Blacks v France Test #2

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

    @majorrage said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

    I wouldn’t count on the 23 being available ...

    The media campaign about the non citing is off the scale here a I guarantee Gosper and Pichot phones and inboxes are going mental.

    Don’t be surprised to see World Rugby pull out there “this needs further investigation” card here.

    That would be the end of Gosper's tenure.

    Really? He's been pretty anti NZ his whole tenure and both him and Pichot have poked their noses in when they feel like it.

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    @nepia I have it on reasonable authority that there have been conversations on maintaining the integrity and impartiality of the position.

    Swings and roundabouts...

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      @nepia I have it on reasonable authority that there have been conversations on maintaining the integrity and impartiality of the position.

      Swings and roundabouts...

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      @antipodean said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

      @nepia I have it on reasonable authority that there have been conversations on maintaining the integrity and impartiality of the position.

      Swings and roundabouts...

      Sweet, that would be good!

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        @nepia I have it on reasonable authority that there have been conversations on maintaining the integrity and impartiality of the position.

        Swings and roundabouts...

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        @antipodean said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @nepia I have it on reasonable authority that there have been conversations on maintaining the integrity and impartiality of the position.

        Swings and roundabouts...

        I'm not totally comprehending this.

        Are you saying his interjection re: Adam Thomson has been called out, 'unofficially ' but at executive levels?

        P.S wow, Adam Thomson seems an age ago, is that from a pre-2011 tour?, Gosper must have been CEO for a very long time now.

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          @rocky-rockbottom A total asshole!

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            The Crusaders will play the French Barbarians this Friday so I expect Goodhue and Mounga to be released for this game : the French Barbarians look as "strong" as the national team and won't be pushovers, especially upfront where they have a number of big men.

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              The coaches signalled before the 1st test that some of the squad might not even play, and that if the series was won before Dunners they would use the 3rd test to give new players an opportunity. Of course, Hansen and co might change their minds. 🙂

              There maybe some minor tweaks in the 23 because of injury/wear and tear for this Sat but I don't expect many changes.

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                The Crusaders will play the French Barbarians this Friday so I expect Goodhue and Mounga to be released for this game : the French Barbarians look as "strong" as the national team and won't be pushovers, especially upfront where they have a number of big men.

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                @cgrant if he is released, I'd think he will likely play 12 too with Tamanivalu at 13...?

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                  @cgrant if he is released, I'd think he will likely play 12 too with Tamanivalu at 13...?

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                  @taniwharugby Only if the AB coaches specifically ask for Goodhue to play at 12. Against the Chiefs, Havili played at 12, with Goodhue at 13 and Tamanivalu at 14.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @nepia I have it on reasonable authority that there have been conversations on maintaining the integrity and impartiality of the position.

                    Swings and roundabouts...

                    I'm not totally comprehending this.

                    Are you saying his interjection re: Adam Thomson has been called out, 'unofficially ' but at executive levels?

                    P.S wow, Adam Thomson seems an age ago, is that from a pre-2011 tour?, Gosper must have been CEO for a very long time now.

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                    @rapido that's the impression I was left with. He's been CEO since 2012

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                      Can't see forwards changing. I expect Fifita will get more game time this week. Interesting that he replaced Whitelock (L) rather than a lock. Scrum markedly less powerful with no established TH lock.

                      In backs run on, hard to see any change other than possibly in midfield. It would not surprise if Laumape got a run with ALB on pine.

                      Do hope Mo'unga and Goodhue get some game time in third.

                      BTW has Taufua been released from squad, which would justify Todd staying on?

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                        Can't see forwards changing. I expect Fifita will get more game time this week. Interesting that he replaced Whitelock (L) rather than a lock. Scrum markedly less powerful with no established TH lock.

                        In backs run on, hard to see any change other than possibly in midfield. It would not surprise if Laumape got a run with ALB on pine.

                        Do hope Mo'unga and Goodhue get some game time in third.

                        BTW has Taufua been released from squad, which would justify Todd staying on?

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                        @pakman Taufua is injured and out of the series, but I think he's still with the squad (going by the photos I saw on instagram, but I'm not sure where/when they were taken). Todd is indeed staying with the squad.

                        Edit: Taufua is definitely still with the squad in Wellington (see Naholo's insta).

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                          If anyone is skating on the selection thin ice it must be Squire. Maybe Taufua's injury has saved him but we need to find the new JK this year.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            If anyone is skating on the selection thin ice it must be Squire. Maybe Taufua's injury has saved him but we need to find the new JK this year.

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                            @crucial

                            Squire will start on Saturday.

                            Watch a replay and see how much work he got through at Eden Park.

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                              @pakman Taufua is injured and out of the series, but I think he's still with the squad (going by the photos I saw on instagram, but I'm not sure where/when they were taken). Todd is indeed staying with the squad.

                              Edit: Taufua is definitely still with the squad in Wellington (see Naholo's insta).

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                              @stargazer If Taufua is out, does this mean Akira Ioane comes in and gets gametime?

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                                @crucial

                                Squire will start on Saturday.

                                Watch a replay and see how much work he got through at Eden Park.

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                                @infidel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                                @crucial

                                Squire will start on Saturday.

                                Watch a replay and see how much work he got through at Eden Park.

                                Fair call. I just thought at first watching that he didn't display much dominance.

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                                  @crucial

                                  Squire will start on Saturday.

                                  Watch a replay and see how much work he got through at Eden Park.

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                                  @infidel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                                  @crucial

                                  Squire will start on Saturday.

                                  Watch a replay and see how much work he got through at Eden Park.

                                  I'll have another look, because apart from one line out steal, I can't remember him being much chop - certainly he didn't make many metres, although he may have been clearing bodies all day and I didn't see it. He certainly didn't make as big of a splash around the field in comparison to the last time he played the french.

                                  Stats suggest that Squire had the most carries (12), but only made 15 metres, a few less than Whitelock, who played 6 less minutes. Squire made 5 tackles and missed 1 in comparison to Whitelock's 4 with one miss.

                                  From the stats, Cane originally looked like the worst loosie out there, but I see he lead the tackle count (6) and did that in 64 minutes, while making five passes, and conceding one penalty.

                                  Based on the stats, all the loosies look alike, and Whitelock doesn't seem to pass enough (only 2?) which suggests he isn't really playing a Read game.

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                                    @stargazer If Taufua is out, does this mean Akira Ioane comes in and gets gametime?

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                                    @frank No, I understand from what has been said in the media that Todd is staying (initially, he was only there temporarily as injury cover for Cane) and takes Taufua's spot (despite Taufua still being with the squad, I assume because they want to give him game time at a later stage this year).

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @frank No, I understand from what has been said in the media that Todd is staying (initially, he was only there temporarily as injury cover for Cane) and takes Taufua's spot (despite Taufua still being with the squad, I assume because they want to give him game time at a later stage this year).

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                                      @stargazer said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                                      @frank No, I understand from what has been said in the media that Todd is staying (initially, he was only there temporarily as injury cover for Cane) and takes Taufua's spot (despite Taufua still being with the squad, I assume because they want to give him game time at a later stage this year).

                                      Perhaps if Akira comes in officially they have to pick up his food bill?

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                                        Pichot has tweeted that he should have been cited after pressure from the UK brigade ...

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          Pichot has tweeted that he should have been cited after pressure from the UK brigade ...

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                                          @majorrage said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                                          Pichot has tweeted that he should have been cited after pressure from the UK brigade ...

                                          In response to the Walrus claiming it was a criminal offence. Glad to know that Mr Jones is an expert on NZ criminal law now as well.
                                          Loads of over-reactive people commenting based on a tiny clip at the worst possible angle. No showing how the French player ducked into contact.

                                          I have no problem with the incident being cited to assess properly, but accusations will fly after that as well.

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