All Blacks v France Test #2
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The difference between scoring 26 and scoring 50 was just a bit of patience. It seemed like our idea when they lost a man was to play the game as quickly as possible. We did lots of quick taps, most of which came to nothing. All tries were generally scored off of good attacking moves where we found line breaks.
However, we didn't have to score like that. All we had to do was keep the ball and exploit the space. Instead we tried to score off of every phase we had the ball. This meant our players got isolated and we knocked it on. France were able to dominate possession which is what you want when you are down a man. It is easier to attack down a man than defend. My message at halftime would have been to actually play the game at a slower pace.
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@tim said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Don't worry guys, Shannon Frizell is available for next week.
Luke Whitelock
Ardie Savea
Fiftia
Liam SquireAll awful.
What are you talking about? None of them were playing tonight were they?
@gunner said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@tim said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Don't worry guys, Shannon Frizell is available for next week.
Luke Whitelock
Ardie Savea
Fiftia
Liam SquireAll awful.
What are you talking about? None of them were playing tonight were they?
4 suitcases
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so why do they call the attempted tries by the French disallowed tries, when they werent legitimate tries?
Smithy saying that the disallowed tries so much more important....riiiight.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
so why do they call the attempted tries by the French disallowed tries, when they werent legitimate tries?
Smithy saying that the disallowed tries so much more important....riiiight.
The commentary team want to give France a participation award like you give to little kids for trying hard
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Don't worry guys, Shannon Frizell is available for next week.
Luke Whitelock
Ardie Savea
Fiftia
Liam SquireAll awful.
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@tim said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Don't worry guys, Shannon Frizell is available for next week.
Luke Whitelock
Ardie Savea
Fiftia
Liam SquireAll awful.
Poor old Fifita doesn't even get a first name mention
@mn5 said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@tim said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Don't worry guys, Shannon Frizell is available for next week.
Luke Whitelock
Ardie Savea
Fiftia
Liam SquireAll awful.
Poor old Fifita doesn't even get a first name mention
Not only no first name, but his surname was spelt incorrectly. No respect :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:
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so why do they call the attempted tries by the French disallowed tries, when they werent legitimate tries?
Smithy saying that the disallowed tries so much more important....riiiight.
Well that was a waste of domestic credit.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
so why do they call the attempted tries by the French disallowed tries, when they werent legitimate tries?
Smithy saying that the disallowed tries so much more important....riiiight.
Just a point not put across well. I think the point is that the French created two very near opportunities that would/could have made a difference. It is a reflection on the quality of the AB play.
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Luke was invisible, and not in a Reuben way.
Ardie is a poor man's Pocock. Swanning about waiting for turnovers.
Fifita looks like he'd squat about 60kg.
Was Liam on the field?@hydro11 said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
The difference between scoring 26 and scoring 50 was just a bit of patience. It seemed like our idea when they lost a man was to play the game as quickly as possible. We did lots of quick taps, most of which came to nothing.
Or they sprinted away from any support resulting in the completely foreseeable turnover.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@tim said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Don't worry guys, Shannon Frizell is available for next week.
Luke Whitelock
Ardie Savea
Fiftia
Liam SquireAll awful.
Poor old Fifita doesn't even get a first name mention
Not only no first name, but his surname was spelt incorrectly. No respect :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:
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Luke was invisible, and not in a Reuben way.
Ardie is a poor man's Pocock. Swanning about waiting for turnovers.
Fifita looks like he'd squat about 60kg.
Was Liam on the field?@hydro11 said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
The difference between scoring 26 and scoring 50 was just a bit of patience. It seemed like our idea when they lost a man was to play the game as quickly as possible. We did lots of quick taps, most of which came to nothing.
Or they sprinted away from any support resulting in the completely foreseeable turnover.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Was Liam on the field?
He made one big tackle. As usual there was a big whole down his side of the ruck. Ineffective ball carrying.
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@tim said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Don't worry guys, Shannon Frizell is available for next week.
Luke Whitelock
Ardie Savea
Fiftia
Liam SquireAll awful.
What are you talking about? None of them were playing tonight were they?
Awful performance, yes, but a swag of first choice players subbed by minute 50, a swag already out injured and some only one game back from injury. If anything this puts paid to the myth that we have a heap of depth. Well played France, that last try well deserved.
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Awful performance, yes, but a swag of first choice players subbed by minute 50, a swag already out injured and some only one game back from injury. If anything this puts paid to the myth that we have a heap of depth. Well played France, that last try well deserved.
@marty said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
Awful performance, yes, but a swag of first choice players subbed by minute 50, a swag already out injured and some only one game back from injury. If anything this puts paid to the myth that we have a heap of depth. Well played France, that last try well deserved.
Lots of guys out. That team looks quite different to our top side
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The difference between scoring 26 and scoring 50 was just a bit of patience. It seemed like our idea when they lost a man was to play the game as quickly as possible. We did lots of quick taps, most of which came to nothing. All tries were generally scored off of good attacking moves where we found line breaks.
However, we didn't have to score like that. All we had to do was keep the ball and exploit the space. Instead we tried to score off of every phase we had the ball. This meant our players got isolated and we knocked it on. France were able to dominate possession which is what you want when you are down a man. It is easier to attack down a man than defend. My message at halftime would have been to actually play the game at a slower pace.
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@kev said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@no-quarter Akira hasn’t been selected because for all his talent he still wants to play like the game like he is 5 years old. Picking up the ball and running around the whole team to score a try. Not sure his approach would have helped today.
Here is an idea. How about the coaches get him up to speed. Isnt that their job?
World class talent - nah lets pick some journeymen players instead. Performances like tonight is what you end up with.
Really not surprised by that performance when you look at the players out on the field. A lot of average out there.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@no-quarter Akira hasn’t been selected because for all his talent he still wants to play like the game like he is 5 years old. Picking up the ball and running around the whole team to score a try. Not sure his approach would have helped today.
Here is an idea. How about the coaches get him up to speed. Isnt that their job?
Yeah - fucking Hansen. If he was any good he'd have got me up to speed.
I knew it wasn't my fault I never got there!
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@no-quarter Akira hasn’t been selected because for all his talent he still wants to play like the game like he is 5 years old. Picking up the ball and running around the whole team to score a try. Not sure his approach would have helped today.
Here is an idea. How about the coaches get him up to speed. Isnt that their job?
Yeah - fucking Hansen. If he was any good he'd have got me up to speed.
I knew it wasn't my fault I never got there!
@chris-b said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@no-quarter Akira hasn’t been selected because for all his talent he still wants to play like the game like he is 5 years old. Picking up the ball and running around the whole team to score a try. Not sure his approach would have helped today.
Here is an idea. How about the coaches get him up to speed. Isnt that their job?
Yeah - fucking Hansen. If he was any good he'd have got me up to speed.
I knew it wasn't my fault I never got there!
Give him a call, it’s never too late!
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v France Test #2:
@no-quarter Akira hasn’t been selected because for all his talent he still wants to play like the game like he is 5 years old. Picking up the ball and running around the whole team to score a try. Not sure his approach would have helped today.
Here is an idea. How about the coaches get him up to speed. Isnt that their job?
Yeah - fucking Hansen. If he was any good he'd have got me up to speed.
I knew it wasn't my fault I never got there!
Give him a call, it’s never too late!
@donsteppa After that effort, I think I'll phone his boss and let him know I'm available to coach for half a mill a year and endless holidays!
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I mean we can probably all agree and circlejerk over the crappyness of the performance, however, some positives:
- defensive lineout was superb
- maul defence was pretty good
- scrum was very good when Moody was subbed of for Moustache Karl
- worst performance in years yet still get away with a comfortable win (yes, red card, but he performance was so horrendous, it's still a plus)
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Objectively poor performance from the ABs. Worst in a very long time.
Before the series many lamented the lack of quality in the loose forwards. Last week Luke Whitelock exceeded expectations, but this week was back in journeyman mode. I thought Squire was ineffectual last week despite what some posters said, and tonight he was again very poor before his injury. Ardie and Fifita are not test quality and never will be, why are they still there?
The loosies were poor, but so were the tight 5. Scott Barrett could not back up a big performance last week, and Sam Whitelock had one of his worst performances in black (by his standards). Missing BBBR big time there - when the going gets tough that man gets going and some.
Hoping Aumua gets fit and gets up to speed ASAP, as Harris is a long way off being test quality and we need a decent bench option at hooker.
We started that match poorly with absolutely no intensity. Then the French idiot forgot the laws and didn't watch where he was going and ruined the game as a contest. And after that we decided to play Super rugby and throw it around which was just fucking braindead stuff against 14 men. I expect the ABs to be ruthless, but tonight they played dumb rugby for the full 80.
Would things have been different had the red card not occurred? For sure, but who knows how. Chances are we would have pulled our heads out of our asses instead of treating it like a bloody training run.
I reckon ALB is basically the only AB that comes out of that with his head held high. Jordie was OK - you can see he has all the attributes to be a fantastic player - but he was well below his potential tonight.
DMac actually wasn't total shit, but the dropoff in class between him and Beauden is fucking massive Beauden is now one of our most important players given the lack of quality behind him.
I'd say flush the dunny and move on, but that's the last thing I want them to do. Force the players to watch that shower of shit all week to ensure they start the game with a bit of bloody purpose in Dunedin.
