All Blacks v France Test 3
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
It was @gt12
If I have a few free hours Sunday or Monday, I might try to do the ‘Rewatch’ again for this weekend too. I’ll base my single player analysis on the fuss generated by the game thread
So, probably Ardie again
Mystery man Frizell would be a good candidate if he starts!
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
It was @gt12
If I have a few free hours Sunday or Monday, I might try to do the ‘Rewatch’ again for this weekend too. I’ll base my single player analysis on the fuss generated by the game thread
So, probably Ardie again
Mystery man Frizell would be a good candidate if he starts!
I'll do the Rewatch/"Reuben Thorne" watch on him. Now, can some one send me a picture of him so I know what he looks like?
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@marty the brush with ALB that was a good 4m prior to him getting off the ground and didn't seem to affect the path he was running or his ability to run straight to the point where BB was, surely if ALB was a factor he'd not have gotten to the exact jump point, but more likely wide of it.
@taniwharugby Quite right, but Reason doesn't like to let irritating things like physics or facts get in the way of a good fairytale.
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@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Coles, Aumua. And suddenly Rikitikitavi is 6th choice.
Romero's injury meant he was down the pecking order. Still 4th choice. After that there's a drop off true. Combine that with Tuipulotu's form drop post drug test. I'm a fan of Lousi though.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Think our backs are looking pretty good though.
@booboo said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Tim Perry is also missing from the loosehead props, but I'm inclined to think that might have been a blessing in disguise.
A No. 8 who could really come from "nowhere" is Whetu Douglas. He'll have to do it the hard way - through NPC later this year, but I reckon Hansen will be watching the Crusaders games prior to the play-offs if Whetu is playing.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Tim Perry is also missing from the loosehead props, but I'm inclined to think that might have been a blessing in disguise.
A No. 8 who could really come from "nowhere" is Whetu Douglas. He'll have to do it the hard way - through NPC later this year, but I reckon Hansen will be watching the Crusaders games prior to the play-offs if Whetu is playing.
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I can understand giving AS the opportunity to make amends for a rare poor performance (especially on his home ground), but would have hoped that TJP was given a kick up the arse and TTT given the bench spot.
@crucial said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
I can understand giving AS the opportunity to make amends for a rare poor performance (especially on his home ground), but would have hoped that TJP was given a kick up the arse and TTT given the bench spot.
I don't think they would want TTT and Mo'unga debuting together off the bench.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
I can understand giving AS the opportunity to make amends for a rare poor performance (especially on his home ground), but would have hoped that TJP was given a kick up the arse and TTT given the bench spot.
I don't think they would want TTT and Mo'unga debuting together off the bench.
@chris-b especially if Goodhue is in the mix as well...rookies everywhere.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Tim Perry is also missing from the loosehead props, but I'm inclined to think that might have been a blessing in disguise.
A No. 8 who could really come from "nowhere" is Whetu Douglas. He'll have to do it the hard way - through NPC later this year, but I reckon Hansen will be watching the Crusaders games prior to the play-offs if Whetu is playing.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Tim Perry is also missing from the loosehead props, but I'm inclined to think that might have been a blessing in disguise.
A No. 8 who could really come from "nowhere" is Whetu Douglas. He'll have to do it the hard way - through NPC later this year, but I reckon Hansen will be watching the Crusaders games prior to the play-offs if Whetu is playing.
@chris-b said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@shark personally think we're suffering an unprecedented injury crisis that I can't remember having to go through before.
Our depth is currently shit at prop yes?
Doesn't help that Hames, Laulala and Moli are out. All of a sudden that'd put Karl Mo outside the squad and leave one of our current THs out too.
Read. Have a feeling there's some potential 6/8s around who are injured (like Seu and others I can't think of).
Tim Perry is also missing from the loosehead props, but I'm inclined to think that might have been a blessing in disguise.
A No. 8 who could really come from "nowhere" is Whetu Douglas. He'll have to do it the hard way - through NPC later this year, but I reckon Hansen will be watching the Crusaders games prior to the play-offs if Whetu is playing.
Leaving off my list wasn't 100% a mistake
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So, whats it gonna be, some spots not sure we can afford to start the rookies...
Moody, Taylor, Franks - no choice really??
Whitelock, Romano
Squire, Whitelock, Todd
Smith, Mounga?
SBW, Goodhue
Rieko, Smith, Naholo
bench is more interesting...
Coltman (he is available isn't he, I forget with all the comings and going) Billy T, Ofa, Hemopo, Frizzel, TJP, DMac, JB@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
So, whats it gonna be, some spots not sure we can afford to start the rookies...
That team from Sumo looks pretty logical and I'm going to bet it's on the money.
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Barrett, Whitelock, Frizell, Savea, Whitelock, Smith, DMac, SBW, Goodhue, Ioane, Naholo, Smith
Tu'inukuafe, Coltman, Tu'ungafasi, Hemepo, Todd, Perenara, Mo'unga, JBarrett
The biggest surprise for me if this is the team is that they would have Jordie on the bench instead of a specialist midfielder - especially with Goodhue making his debut and SBW just back from injury. I'd have Crotty on the bench if fit and failing that ALB.
I'm a bit surprised Cane isn't playing despite being a bit off the pace last weekend. I wonder if he's still carrying that injury? Either Todd or Ardie could be starting/coming off the bench. Ardie offers more utility from the bench, so wouldn't surprise me if Todd starts - but, Ardie was in the original squad and Matt wasn't, so...
Hemepo able to cover the locks for injuries and Frizell in case he's a bust, makes sense and might add a bit more logic in terms of Ardie's utility value on the bench.
DMac starting and Mo'unga on the bench doesn't overly surprise me - since Damien already had a run last week, give him another for continuity. The bench would be more versatile if it was Perenara, DMac, ALB though.
Not at all surprised about the back three shuffle.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
So, whats it gonna be, some spots not sure we can afford to start the rookies...
That team from Sumo looks pretty logical and I'm going to bet it's on the money.
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Barrett, Whitelock, Frizell, Savea, Whitelock, Smith, DMac, SBW, Goodhue, Ioane, Naholo, Smith
Tu'inukuafe, Coltman, Tu'ungafasi, Hemepo, Todd, Perenara, Mo'unga, JBarrett
The biggest surprise for me if this is the team is that they would have Jordie on the bench instead of a specialist midfielder - especially with Goodhue making his debut and SBW just back from injury. I'd have Crotty on the bench if fit and failing that ALB.
I'm a bit surprised Cane isn't playing despite being a bit off the pace last weekend. I wonder if he's still carrying that injury? Either Todd or Ardie could be starting/coming off the bench. Ardie offers more utility from the bench, so wouldn't surprise me if Todd starts - but, Ardie was in the original squad and Matt wasn't, so...
Hemepo able to cover the locks for injuries and Frizell in case he's a bust, makes sense and might add a bit more logic in terms of Ardie's utility value on the bench.
DMac starting and Mo'unga on the bench doesn't overly surprise me - since Damien already had a run last week, give him another for continuity. The bench would be more versatile if it was Perenara, DMac, ALB though.
Not at all surprised about the back three shuffle.
@chris-b said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
DMac starting and Mo'unga on the bench doesn't overly surprise me - since Damien already had a run last week, give him another for continuity.
If true, I worry about the mental state of the coaches. Contrast Mo'unga's display in the same position in the same competition. It's a no brainer.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
DMac starting and Mo'unga on the bench doesn't overly surprise me - since Damien already had a run last week, give him another for continuity.
If true, I worry about the mental state of the coaches. Contrast Mo'unga's display in the same position in the same competition. It's a no brainer.
@antipodean I guess they are in the somewhat unenviable position of having to develop two test first fives before RWC.
So, I think they won't look at this game in isolation - rather as an opportunity to build DMac's confidence after what I thought was a reasonable outing last week. Richie making a 20 minute debut off the bench.
Agree with you that Mo'unga is the better prospect as a specialist first five, but I'm also pretty certain they're planning DMac as their supersub.
I suspect what they might planning is Mo'unga to get starts later in the season with Beauden covering him off the bench.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
So, whats it gonna be, some spots not sure we can afford to start the rookies...
That team from Sumo looks pretty logical and I'm going to bet it's on the money.
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Barrett, Whitelock, Frizell, Savea, Whitelock, Smith, DMac, SBW, Goodhue, Ioane, Naholo, Smith
Tu'inukuafe, Coltman, Tu'ungafasi, Hemepo, Todd, Perenara, Mo'unga, JBarrett
The biggest surprise for me if this is the team is that they would have Jordie on the bench instead of a specialist midfielder - especially with Goodhue making his debut and SBW just back from injury. I'd have Crotty on the bench if fit and failing that ALB.
I'm a bit surprised Cane isn't playing despite being a bit off the pace last weekend. I wonder if he's still carrying that injury? Either Todd or Ardie could be starting/coming off the bench. Ardie offers more utility from the bench, so wouldn't surprise me if Todd starts - but, Ardie was in the original squad and Matt wasn't, so...
Hemepo able to cover the locks for injuries and Frizell in case he's a bust, makes sense and might add a bit more logic in terms of Ardie's utility value on the bench.
DMac starting and Mo'unga on the bench doesn't overly surprise me - since Damien already had a run last week, give him another for continuity. The bench would be more versatile if it was Perenara, DMac, ALB though.
Not at all surprised about the back three shuffle.
@chris-b Rieko, Smith & JB are all (on paper) mid-field options too.
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@chris-b Rieko, Smith & JB are all (on paper) mid-field options too.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@chris-b Rieko, Smith & JB are all (on paper) mid-field options too.
Just not very good ones IMO.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@chris-b Rieko, Smith & JB are all (on paper) mid-field options too.
Just not very good ones IMO.
@chris-b Who said anything about good, there is a lot of not good stuff going on in selections presently...
I mean Rieko can play 11, 12 & 13, Jordie can play anywhere from lock to 15 and BFA can play 13-15...we got it covered.
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TJPs form has been pretty up and down this year, injury hasn't helped. He single-handedly blew the Blues off the park in his comeback game but has since been off the pace for whatever reason. I think he needs more rugby, though I do agree it would be good to blood TTT as he looks a promising player.
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TJPs form has been pretty up and down this year, injury hasn't helped. He single-handedly blew the Blues off the park in his comeback game but has since been off the pace for whatever reason. I think he needs more rugby, though I do agree it would be good to blood TTT as he looks a promising player.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
TJPs form has been pretty up and down this year, injury hasn't helped. He single-handedly blew the Blues off the park in his comeback game but has since been off the pace for whatever reason. I think he needs more rugby, though I do agree it would be good to blood TTT as he looks a promising player.
what was his excuse last year in Black?
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Some top level whining bullshit:
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Some top level whining bullshit:
