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NBA Season 2017/18

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    @barbarian said in NBA Season 2017/18:

    Kawhi doesn't have nearly as much power as Lebron or PG. He's still got a year to go on his deal, so he can request a trade anywhere he wants, but it doesn't mean the Spurs have to do anything.

    They should certainly move him, but should sell him off to the highest bidder. Boston looks the most attractive partner, but there are plenty of other suitors that could make a move.

    I reckon he'd fit beautifully on the 76ers, for what it's worth...

    If they trade him to a team that he doesn't want to they will run the risk of him leaving for nothing after a year. If he names a destination it will scare off potential suitors. It may not happen, the Spurs might be able to turn him around.

    It sounds serious, he feels betrayed by the Spurs over his injury and the money he's leaving on the table is irrelevant

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23803570/kawhi-leonard-wants-san-antonio-spurs

    SA may have to begrudgingly deal with LA. Knowing they can never get full value, I could see Kuzma and Ingram being the cornerstones of a trade package. Kawhi and Bron have been texting, LA will field a starting 5 anchored by Leonard, Bron, PG, pass first Lonzo Ball, and a mid level vet. Looks great on paper but where is the 3 point shooting coming from?

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    @canefan said in NBA Season 2017/18:

    @barbarian said in NBA Season 2017/18:

    Kawhi doesn't have nearly as much power as Lebron or PG. He's still got a year to go on his deal, so he can request a trade anywhere he wants, but it doesn't mean the Spurs have to do anything.

    They should certainly move him, but should sell him off to the highest bidder. Boston looks the most attractive partner, but there are plenty of other suitors that could make a move.

    I reckon he'd fit beautifully on the 76ers, for what it's worth...

    If they trade him to a team that he doesn't want to they will run the risk of him leaving for nothing after a year. If he names a destination it will scare off potential suitors. It may not happen, the Spurs might be able to turn him around.

    It sounds serious, he feels betrayed by the Spurs over his injury and the money he's leaving on the table is irrelevant

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23803570/kawhi-leonard-wants-san-antonio-spurs

    SA may have to begrudgingly deal with LA. Knowing they can never get full value, I could see Kuzma and Ingram being the cornerstones of a trade package. Kawhi and Bron have been texting, LA will field a starting 5 anchored by Leonard, Bron, PG, pass first Lonzo Ball, and a mid level vet. Looks great on paper but where is the 3 point shooting coming from?

    Both Leonard and Lebron are much improved 3pt shooters. PG has some of the longest range in the NBA. Steaky no doubt, but he’s a genuine threat.

    What is key is a small ball lineup that will trouble Rockets and Warriors.

    Whilst all three are small forwards, they are all versatile on both ends.

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      NBA Awards

      Rookie of the Year: Ben Simmons (Philadelphia 76ers)
      MVP: James Harden (Houston Rockets)
      Coach of the Year: Dwane Casey (Toronto Raptors) - but fired
      Sixth Man Award: Lou Williams (LA Clippers)
      Defensive Player of the Year: Rudy Gobert (Utah Jazz)
      Most Improved Player: Victor Oladipo (Indiana Pacers)

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        I thought AD would get DPOY

        Shame both Mitchell and Simmons couldn't have won ROTY but then you'd have to start doing that for other awards when its too close to call.

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          I thought LBJ should be MVP over Harden.

          Also I hate that they announce them after the finals, rather than in the first week of the playoffs. Massively decreases the care factor.

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          • TeWaioT TeWaio

            I thought LBJ should be MVP over Harden.

            Also I hate that they announce them after the finals, rather than in the first week of the playoffs. Massively decreases the care factor.

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            @tewaio said in NBA Season 2017/18:

            I thought LBJ should be MVP over Harden.

            Also I hate that they announce them after the finals, rather than in the first week of the playoffs. Massively decreases the care factor.

            They are regular season awards. They should present them to the winners at the end of the regular season

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            • TeWaioT TeWaio

              I thought LBJ should be MVP over Harden.

              Also I hate that they announce them after the finals, rather than in the first week of the playoffs. Massively decreases the care factor.

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              @tewaio said in NBA Season 2017/18:

              I thought LBJ should be MVP over Harden.

              Also I hate that they announce them after the finals, rather than in the first week of the playoffs. Massively decreases the care factor.

              A classic case of trying to stretch it out and maximise publicity.

              Plus they have made it more of an ‘occasion’ that is televised, fashion, fanfare, media etc.

              The MVP used to be awarded during the playoffs before a game that the MVP would play.

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                  @magpie_in_aus The problem with these types of comparisons is that the numbers only tell part of the story.

                  Harden's team won 15 more games in the regular season and in the much tougher Western division. He had to share point scoring with Chris Paul, Clint Capella, Gerald Green and Eric Gordon.

                  Lebron only has one consistent scorer to contend with, Kevin Love, and he was only available for 45 games. So he was doing it all for his team but won only 50 games in the regular season.

                  If it was all about stats and nothing else then Westbrook was the MVP, he got more rebounds, more assists and scored 2000+ points in 80 games with another bona fide scorer on his team in Paul George.

                  But it's not just about stats. Harden's team were the front runners almost all season and he is the main reason why.

                  What skews everyone's view is the time frame of this award. Its been fucking ages since the last game of the finals. If they'd awarded this at the conclusion of the regular season, silly stat graphics like this wouldn't be a thing.

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                    Nope....stats > Logic on the fern unfortunately therefore Lebron got robbed.

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                      Agree 100% though

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                        So Paul George has opted out of his final season with the OKC under his current contract in favour of unrestricted free agency. He can still end up playing for the Thunder but it will be on a max contract. Somewhere in the area of $45m per season. The last year of this contract was $21m.

                        If the Lakers want him they will have to pay through the nose which would mean Kawhi Leonard is their only other real target. Based on the fact they have today made public an offer to trade Ingram, Kuzma and couple draft picks tot he Spurs to get Leonard to the Lakers. So if they take George absolutely no way is Lebron going to the Lakers. Not on a max contract anyway.

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                          Fuck you Kawhi

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                          • raznomoreR raznomore

                            So Paul George has opted out of his final season with the OKC under his current contract in favour of unrestricted free agency. He can still end up playing for the Thunder but it will be on a max contract. Somewhere in the area of $45m per season. The last year of this contract was $21m.

                            If the Lakers want him they will have to pay through the nose which would mean Kawhi Leonard is their only other real target. Based on the fact they have today made public an offer to trade Ingram, Kuzma and couple draft picks tot he Spurs to get Leonard to the Lakers. So if they take George absolutely no way is Lebron going to the Lakers. Not on a max contract anyway.

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                            @raznomore i don’t think LBJ is necessarily thinking about a max contract given everything else that is generating cash for him. What he will be mindful of though is what a potential team is doing to draw other players.

                            You may recall that when the big 3 got together at the Heat, that Bosh, Wade and LBJ were all on similar money but it was Bosh that had the highest contract.

                            That allowed them to get/keep some other good pieces.

                            If Lakers are breaking the bank for PG then Lebron will want to know that there is enough cap to get other pieces plus his $30m odd

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                              @raznomore i don’t think LBJ is necessarily thinking about a max contract given everything else that is generating cash for him. What he will be mindful of though is what a potential team is doing to draw other players.

                              You may recall that when the big 3 got together at the Heat, that Bosh, Wade and LBJ were all on similar money but it was Bosh that had the highest contract.

                              That allowed them to get/keep some other good pieces.

                              If Lakers are breaking the bank for PG then Lebron will want to know that there is enough cap to get other pieces plus his $30m odd

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                              @act-crusader you're dead right actually. Lebron is fuelled by legacy, championships and, one would hope, a hate of GSW. I didn't really think about what he did at the heat.

                              Was just reading that it all hinges on George going to the Lakers. Plus Dwyane(the stupidest spelling ever, always wanted to vent about that)Wade. But if they get PG and Kawhi its basically a done deal.

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                                @act-crusader you're dead right actually. Lebron is fuelled by legacy, championships and, one would hope, a hate of GSW. I didn't really think about what he did at the heat.

                                Was just reading that it all hinges on George going to the Lakers. Plus Dwyane(the stupidest spelling ever, always wanted to vent about that)Wade. But if they get PG and Kawhi its basically a done deal.

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                                @raznomore said in NBA Season 2017/18:

                                @act-crusader you're dead right actually. Lebron is fuelled by legacy, championships and, one would hope, a hate of GSW. I didn't really think about what he did at the heat.

                                Was just reading that it all hinges on George going to the Lakers. Plus Dwyane(the stupidest spelling ever, always wanted to vent about that)Wade. But if they get PG and Kawhi its basically a done deal.

                                A story did the rounds on ESPN that LBJ texted Durant about joining him in LA. A bit embarrassing, you can't deny something if you put it in writing

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                                  @raznomore said in NBA Season 2017/18:

                                  @act-crusader you're dead right actually. Lebron is fuelled by legacy, championships and, one would hope, a hate of GSW. I didn't really think about what he did at the heat.

                                  Was just reading that it all hinges on George going to the Lakers. Plus Dwyane(the stupidest spelling ever, always wanted to vent about that)Wade. But if they get PG and Kawhi its basically a done deal.

                                  A story did the rounds on ESPN that LBJ texted Durant about joining him in LA. A bit embarrassing, you can't deny something if you put it in writing

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                                  @canefan

                                  If he’s trolling Durant though, that’s pretty funny.

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                                    @raznomore said in NBA Season 2017/18:

                                    @act-crusader you're dead right actually. Lebron is fuelled by legacy, championships and, one would hope, a hate of GSW. I didn't really think about what he did at the heat.

                                    Was just reading that it all hinges on George going to the Lakers. Plus Dwyane(the stupidest spelling ever, always wanted to vent about that)Wade. But if they get PG and Kawhi its basically a done deal.

                                    A story did the rounds on ESPN that LBJ texted Durant about joining him in LA. A bit embarrassing, you can't deny something if you put it in writing

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                                    @canefan yeah I ssw that the other day. He ruined the NBA.

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                                      @canefan yeah I ssw that the other day. He ruined the NBA.

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                                      @raznomore said in NBA Season 2017/18:

                                      @canefan yeah I ssw that the other day. He ruined the NBA.

                                      One could say that the cap changes ruined the NBA....

                                      It opened the door to allow the Warriors to make a bid for KD and also more broadly to allow some ridiculous contracts to players not worth anything near what they are paid.

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                                        @raznomore said in NBA Season 2017/18:

                                        @canefan yeah I ssw that the other day. He ruined the NBA.

                                        One could say that the cap changes ruined the NBA....

                                        It opened the door to allow the Warriors to make a bid for KD and also more broadly to allow some ridiculous contracts to players not worth anything near what they are paid.

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                                        @act-crusader I was just repeating instagram comment.

                                        KD made a bitch move but ultimately the type of money that in under the cap is so emmense now all we are going to see if super teams.

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                                          Lebron confirmed to the Lakers.

                                          Western Conference is going to be ridiculous next season.

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