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Blues 2019

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @tim It doesn’t make much sense though. There’s very little Auckland influence at the Blues. Is it a perception about the Dev team? That side is coached by the NH coach.. the performance manager (doing shitty talent spotting) is from Waikato. For the full side, the head coach is from Wellington.. the Assistant coach is an ex NH coach

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    @duluth Hanks is an Aucklander so don't go blaming Waikato for the Blues' problems. 😉

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      Improving 22 exits has got to be a priority next year. We need another player on the field with a big boot. Nanai has distance, and with more practice should be able to do it. Duffie has no excuses. Unfortunately Collins doesn't have much distance.

      Best hope might be signing Shaun Stevenson. He did play under MacDonald and Umaga in the 2016 NZ U20 team.

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      • TimT Tim

        Improving 22 exits has got to be a priority next year. We need another player on the field with a big boot. Nanai has distance, and with more practice should be able to do it. Duffie has no excuses. Unfortunately Collins doesn't have much distance.

        Best hope might be signing Shaun Stevenson. He did play under MacDonald and Umaga in the 2016 NZ U20 team.

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        @tim Shaun Stevenson looks like the kind of rocks and diamonds player the Blues should be staying clear of to me.

        I reckon the Blues should have a good look at Ross Wright as a hooker next year despite his age.

        Hopefully Pulu isn't captain next year so they don't feel obligated to play him. He looked like an extra from the Walking Dead tonight.

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          From a sauce .... decent one too honestly

          Word is the blues are fucked because of religion.

          Divides the squad in a big Big way.

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            From a sauce .... decent one too honestly

            Word is the blues are fucked because of religion.

            Divides the squad in a big Big way.

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            @majorrage Can you elaborate on that?

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              Apparetly the NZ sevens team was like that for a while when DJ Forbes wa captain, but they toned it down a bit. Got to have buy in from the whole squad if you are bringing in christian stuff to the team situation. I was in a club where we said a prayer before games, I was happy to go along with it, I was one of the few white boys.

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                Yeah you saw the NZ sevens team praying together, I'd not be interested in that at all.

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                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                  From a sauce .... decent one too honestly

                  Word is the blues are fucked because of religion.

                  Divides the squad in a big Big way.

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                  African Monkey
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                  @majorrage If that's the case then it's a very minor thing to divide a whole squad.

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                    @majorrage If that's the case then it's a very minor thing to divide a whole squad.

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                    @african-monkey For a lot of PI players, religion is not a minor thing though.

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                      @african-monkey For a lot of PI players, religion is not a minor thing though.

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                      @stargazer Yeah I get that, I'm half Samoan and have played in a lot of teams where we said a prayer before and after games. I'm not at all religious but I went along with it and let them do their thing, no big deal at all, can't see why others can't do the same it really shouldn't be an issue.

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                        Wasn't this an issue under Lam as well?

                        If the Blues were winning no one would care.

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                        • A African Monkey

                          @stargazer Yeah I get that, I'm half Samoan and have played in a lot of teams where we said a prayer before and after games. I'm not at all religious but I went along with it and let them do their thing, no big deal at all, can't see why others can't do the same it really shouldn't be an issue.

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                          @african-monkey depends how much the religious crap is shoved down your face. A prayer in the pitch is one thing, but saying grace at dinner, getting preached at about your religious affiliations etc etc would piss a lot off people. Do they do Muslim stuff too, for Sonny? The blues are a work place and that sort of thing is something I would rage against

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105497318/tana-umaga-keeps-cards-close-as-bumbling-blues-limp-out-of-super-rugby

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                              @african-monkey depends how much the religious crap is shoved down your face. A prayer in the pitch is one thing, but saying grace at dinner, getting preached at about your religious affiliations etc etc would piss a lot off people. Do they do Muslim stuff too, for Sonny? The blues are a work place and that sort of thing is something I would rage against

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                              @machpants said in Blues 2019:

                              @african-monkey depends how much the religious crap is shoved down your face. A prayer in the pitch is one thing, but saying grace at dinner, getting preached at about your religious affiliations etc etc would piss a lot off people. Do they do Muslim stuff too, for Sonny? The blues are a work place and that sort of thing is something I would rage against

                              I'd be more worried about the potential impact of religion being seen as a separate factor to personal agency. So, when you have two or three losses, mostly due to the personal decisions, many of which could be improved with greater preparation, it could be very frustrating if people explained away losses by suggesting that the current troubles were 'god's way of testing us' or 'god's plan' with the conclusion that 'we should just keep doing what we are doing'.

                              I'm not suggesting that is happening, but it's one thought that I could imagine happening and it could put a big gap between people who see their actions and the results they achieve as some reflection of god's will versus those who see the results they achieve as largely due to their personal agency (i.e., capability to bring about the actions required for winning rugby). Those individuals (i.e., the non-believers) may be more likely to closely examine their own - or others - preparation, whcih could lead to tension.

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                                I knew a guy who had the potential to go all the way, played NZ age group stuff, was big, strong, fast, but apparently found a God, and determined that until his God told him he should play rugby again, he shouldnt.

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                                  Kiss of death:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12089370

                                  Does raise a good point about whether Coventry will want to be just an assistant though.

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                                    As has been said many times, if Tana had any humility or class he would resign.

                                    The fact that he took an extension at all shows he puts his personal status ahead of the team.

                                    How can he demand more of the players when his own performance is so dire?

                                    And he can moan about injuries all he likes, take a look at every other NZ franchise, all have been effected by injuries.

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                                      As has been said many times, if Tana had any humility or class he would resign.

                                      The fact that he took an extension at all shows he puts his personal status ahead of the team.

                                      How can he demand more of the players when his own performance is so dire?

                                      And he can moan about injuries all he likes, take a look at every other NZ franchise, all have been effected by injuries.

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                                      @kirwan Tana feels like a gambler deep in a hole trying to win his way out. I also think he's got plenty of enablers around him in management and governance. In some ways being dropped would be kinder, as its hard to see him at the helm for the upswing in form/results etc. Given that still could be a few years off in terms of genuine improvement.

                                      I know it's all hot air until we see it, but I thought the Otere Black signing was going to do a lot for the blues. Hopefully that eventuates in 2019.

                                      But fully agree that selection and recruitment are two things that stink in terms of Tana's coaching. Maybe a case of trying every combination in terms of selection... but fuck me he keeps making some insane decisions!

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        As has been said many times, if Tana had any humility or class he would resign.

                                        The fact that he took an extension at all shows he puts his personal status ahead of the team.

                                        How can he demand more of the players when his own performance is so dire?

                                        And he can moan about injuries all he likes, take a look at every other NZ franchise, all have been effected by injuries.

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                                        @kirwan Must be fucking hard for Blues fans to swallow when he keeps doing these interviews where he is laughing and joking. Nothing about the team's current predicament is funny. And Redman is just a giant floundering douchebag.

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                                          Devils advocate. Richmond in the AFL were a basket case. Talented, but either missed finals, or lost the first final every year. Then they had a shocker year, and finished 13th.

                                          Every single metric said the coach should get fired. But the Board went another way, kept the coach, and replaced all the assistants. They then won the comp, and will probably win again this year. To be clear, there was no indication Hardwick had this in him.

                                          This year Collingwood and Nathan Buckley are looking like proving that keeping the coach can work.

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