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  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #3623

    TAB odds for Hurricanes/Chiefs quarterfinal:

    Hurricanes
    1.45
    Chiefs
    2.60

    Very generous odds for the Chiefs.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by Stargazer
    #3624

    @taniwharugby No, it's really not high at all; it's spot on. I think you're confusing Fa'auli's hit with the Caleb Timu yellow in the Reds v Sunwolves game? That was a head clash, although he was leading with the shoulder and the intent seemed to be the same as Fa'auli's; that will be a 6-week entry point as well, I think, because he just dived towards the "victim" who was already on the ground.

    Fa'auli definitely hit Goosen in the head with his shoulder and didn't even try to wrap his arms. That's a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks and as a repeat offender, he was always going to get one or two weeks extra. The two weeks deduction seems a bit much, but he didn't get the full 50% deduction, for obvious reasons. Correct and consistent decision.

    See in this video from 1 min 33 sec (62nd minute of the game):

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3625

    @stargazer I'd suggest the 1 year deal for Jordie is because he probably figures he can negotiate for much more $ in a year's time when Ben Smith is on the way out.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #3626

    @kiwimurph Yeah, but why dit NZR agree? Jordie really isn't going overseas if they refuse a one-year deal.

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    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by
    #3627

    Odds for Friday night's game was Chiefs $2.30 and Hurricanes $1.57. So the Canes are stronger favourites?

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    Milk
    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #3628

    @bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

    Odds for Friday night's game was Chiefs $2.30 and Hurricanes $1.57. So the Canes are stronger favourites?

    Home ground advantage I assume.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3629

    @stargazer No one thought Piutau was going overseas until he did.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #3630

    @kiwimurph Yeah, but a Barrett isn't a Piutau.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3631

    @stargazer it's dangerous to assume.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    taniwharugby
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3632

    @stargazer do you read what people post, I'm not confusing it with anything, given I didnt watch that other game.

    Watch that clip you posted, his head makes contact first, and IMO its his head that does the damage, I wasnt arguing it wasnt a shoulder charge, I was arguing his head made contact with Goosens

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #3633

    @taniwharugby I don't see the head making contact first, I see clearly a shoulder making contact with the head. But for the sake of the argument, for the offending it doesn't make much of a difference. It was a dangerous tackle, without arms, and he made contact with the head. Law 9.13 (A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders) has a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks. It doesn't distinguish between a player being hit in the head with a shoulder or a head clash, considering it was always dangerous. His intent was clear, too. There was nothing accidental about it.

    And if you didn't watch that Reds v Sunwolves game, you may want to have a look at this clip. That was a clear head clash, but whether it will make a difference for the outcome of the citing?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3634

    @stargazer head contact was accidental, the shoulder charge not.

    I think with some of the other punishment inconsistenacies, 6 weeks is harsh, given it includes a '2 week discount''

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #3635

    @taniwharugby I have read all decisions this year and they haven't been inconsistent at all. Referees have been, but not the Foul Play Review Committee.

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #3636

    @taniwharugby he also got 2 weeks because he is a repeat offender. So it's almost 4 weeks + 2 weeks.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #3637

    6 weeks? For that? 6 weeks is an enormous ban, especially when compared with other sports.

    Add that to the softest red card in history on the weekend, and it's clear that World Rugby wants us playing touch.

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #3638

    @mariner4life Have you already seen the decision of the Foul Play Review Committee regarding that red card that was given to Ed Quirk? (I haven't)

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3639

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @mariner4life Have you already seen the decision of the Foul Play Review Committee regarding that red card that was given to Ed Quirk? (I haven't)

    Number of Judicial Findings read by M4L in his life = 0

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  • ToddyT Offline
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    Toddy
    wrote on last edited by
    #3640

    I reckon good job. It was a filthy act and he fully deserves it.

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    Hooroo
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #3641

    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @mariner4life Have you already seen the decision of the Foul Play Review Committee regarding that red card that was given to Ed Quirk? (I haven't)

    Number of Judicial Findings read by M4L in his life = 0

    There's love for the game and then there's love for the game...

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    #3642

    I'd be happy if Cooper and the Chiefs cut their losses with Fa'auli. If he only signed a 2-yr contract then that will expire at the end of this SR season. He wouldn't have started in the QF anyway.

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