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Blues 2019

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Devils advocate. Richmond in the AFL were a basket case. Talented, but either missed finals, or lost the first final every year. Then they had a shocker year, and finished 13th.

    Every single metric said the coach should get fired. But the Board went another way, kept the coach, and replaced all the assistants. They then won the comp, and will probably win again this year. To be clear, there was no indication Hardwick had this in him.

    This year Collingwood and Nathan Buckley are looking like proving that keeping the coach can work.

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    @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

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      @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

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      @number9 said in Blues 2019:

      @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

      Outstanding is going overboard .. they've been on the end of some towellings and if Luke doesn't play, or doesn't fire, then they're in big trouble.

      They have, however, definitely shown some improvement.

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      • number9N number9

        @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

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        @number9 said in Blues 2019:

        @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

        It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

        Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

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        • SammyCS SammyC

          @number9 said in Blues 2019:

          @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

          It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

          Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

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          @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

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            @number9 the blues board need to sack themselves, but we know that wont happen, too much self interest.

            So you think 3 years of failure, and finishing in the worst position in year 3 is enough to retain ones position?

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              @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

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              @number9 said in Blues 2019:

              @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

              The bumbling nincompoop of a former head coach is still there ... don't give the board too much credit.

              It is not outstanding for the Warriors to be 7th, they should comfortably be a top 8 team regularly.

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                yea @SammyC , have you like, ever competed in anything? Ever? huh?

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @number9 the blues board need to sack themselves, but we know that wont happen, too much self interest.

                  So you think 3 years of failure, and finishing in the worst position in year 3 is enough to retain ones position?

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                  @taniwharugby No I don't believe it is acceptable. However, changes should have been made after Year 2, which is the Boards decision.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                    @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

                    The bumbling nincompoop of a former head coach is still there ... don't give the board too much credit.

                    It is not outstanding for the Warriors to be 7th, they should comfortably be a top 8 team regularly.

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                    @nepia What do you mean regularly? The changes have only just been made.

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                    • number9N number9

                      @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

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                      @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                      @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

                      My statement was ridiculous? take a look at yourself

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                      • SammyCS SammyC

                        @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                        @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

                        My statement was ridiculous? take a look at yourself

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                        @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

                        @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                        @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

                        My statement was ridiculous? take a look at yourself

                        halfbacks, i swear to god...

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

                          @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                          @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

                          My statement was ridiculous? take a look at yourself

                          halfbacks, i swear to god...

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                          @mariner4life Yep ridiculous.

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                            There's some really interesting takeaways when you think about Coventry taking the Blues forwards coaching job

                            • He's been coaching in the region with North Harbour and the Blues Development team so has a very strong knowledge of the current playing group

                            • Blues scrum coach Ben Afeaki is also North Harbour scrum coach so has worked with Coventry

                            • Akira Ioane seemingly staying for 2019. You have to wonder if knowledge that there would be a new forwards coach was a huge factor in this.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              There's some really interesting takeaways when you think about Coventry taking the Blues forwards coaching job

                              • He's been coaching in the region with North Harbour and the Blues Development team so has a very strong knowledge of the current playing group

                              • Blues scrum coach Ben Afeaki is also North Harbour scrum coach so has worked with Coventry

                              • Akira Ioane seemingly staying for 2019. You have to wonder if knowledge that there would be a new forwards coach was a huge factor in this.

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                              @kiwimurph you are making assumptions based on common sense, in making this appointment, do you think the board connected these dots or just pure luck 🍀

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                There's some really interesting takeaways when you think about Coventry taking the Blues forwards coaching job

                                • He's been coaching in the region with North Harbour and the Blues Development team so has a very strong knowledge of the current playing group

                                • Blues scrum coach Ben Afeaki is also North Harbour scrum coach so has worked with Coventry

                                • Akira Ioane seemingly staying for 2019. You have to wonder if knowledge that there would be a new forwards coach was a huge factor in this.

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                                @kiwimurph Also, re Akira staying, it smells of NZR having their hand in keeping the Ioane Bro's in Auckland (IMHO of course).

                                @number9 Regardless, the Warriors should always be top 8, also it's silly suggest that sacking the assistants are the key reason for the improvement (so far) at the Warriors this year. The obvious improvement has come from Luke's form and Green's arrival.

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                                • SammyCS SammyC

                                  @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                  @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                  It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

                                  Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

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                                  @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

                                  @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                  @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                  It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

                                  Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

                                  True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

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                                    @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

                                    @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                    @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                    It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

                                    Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

                                    True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

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                                    @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

                                    @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

                                    @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                    @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                    It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

                                    Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

                                    True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

                                    But I bet they wouldn't call it "outstanding" though. That would still be behind all the other NZ teams.

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                                      @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

                                      @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                      @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                      It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

                                      Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

                                      True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

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                                      @gt12 depends if you asked them now or at the start of the season....

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                                        @gt12 depends if you asked them now or at the start of the season....

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                                        @taniwharugby

                                        Now, today. Wouldn't you take it? 14th to 7th?

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                                          @taniwharugby

                                          Now, today. Wouldn't you take it? 14th to 7th?

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                                          @gt12 erm, surely any fan of any team would take that at this point??

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