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Nepia

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Out of desperation I'm downloading Wiseguy. Will watch the pilot tonight and report back.
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Really? You've watched all the other good modern shows out there? Loved Wiseguy back in the day!

Nepia

So I've recently finished Breaking Bad (all seasons) and Orange is the New Black S1. They seem to be two hugely popular shows around here. I'll spoiler any specifics.
 
Breaking Bad: I enjoyed Breaking Bad immensely but can't fathom how it is considered by some to rank up with The Wire and The Sopranos. I would have it on the next rung down. My key issues with it were that it took two seasons to get going - and I really had to force myself to get through those first two seasons which is why I only watched the entire series through this year despite watching the first episode back in the year it first aired. I also found the Walt and Jessie friends then fighting to be repetitive. I also think that it is allowed to get away with unrealistic situations that fans wouldn't be so happy with in other shows [spoiler]the M60 set up in the finale was just silly, it relied on way too many contrivances to work. It was almost a case of great finale ruined by one scene for me.[/spoiler]
 
I thought that Walt was a great anti hero and that Jessie was a great screw up. Hank was the character who impressed me the most, he had a great arc where he went from completely annoying to greatly sympathetic as a character while not losing the traits that made him annoying. I couldn't stand Skylar which is what I expect the creators wanted. 
 
 
Orange is the New Black: I really liked this show despite the fact I can't stand the main character and the actress that plays her. To some degree I know we're supposed to find her annoying but if the show was more focused on her rather than having a large focus on the others around her then I would have given up watching. [spoiler]They have also made the boyfriend an annoying character so as to not make Piper too unsympathetic, I assume, yet she still seems a million times worse.[/spoiler] I liked how the show would bring what seemed like peripheral characters initially into the centre for later episodes. It took me about 4 episodes of wondering where I knew Pornstache (Mendez) from and then I finally clicked that he's Nicky Sobotka from S2 of The Wire! 
 
I've been reading some debates about whether the show is a comedy or a drama. I think for the most part it's a comedy and a pretty funny one at that. 
 
 
Glad to have finished Breaking Bad so no longer in the dark about it ... now I only have Deadwood to finish of the highly rated shows!

Crucial

Consdiering there is quite a bit of good (or watchable) Tv out there at the moment there is only one current show that I find myself waiting for the next installment on and that's SOA. I think tonight will sort out the Happy storyline.
 
To my surprise the other show that I don't wait on each week is Arrow. The Island story arc gets tedious but the show is finally getting into the comic groove instead of trying to look like a cheesy drama based on a comic. I hear that more comic book villians are in the pipeline too.
 
I enjoy Homeland each week now (despite the reappearance of the whiny daughter) but often don't catch up with it until later in the week.

Catogrande

Not sure if you can source it in NZ and Aus but if you can, give Endeavour a go. It is a short series of dramas about the early days of Inspector Morse set in the 1960s. It has a good period feel and one of my all time favourite character actors, Roger Allam as More's boss.

Tim

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Really? You've watched all the other good modern shows out there? Loved Wiseguy back in the day!
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I've only got Black Mirror left.
 
Wiseguy is ... amusingly ridiculous.

Crucial

SOA
[spoiler]At least it's getting to the situation that for every problem solved only one other arises. For a while there the problems were accumulating faster than the bodies. 
So Happy, Tig, the chinks, the blacks, the Irish have all been sorted but now the Mayans, the DA, Tara and Juice/Nero situations need working out. 
One more ep left this season and it makes me wonder if, with only the integrated storyline of Tara and the DA to go plus the future direction of the club depending on Nero, where will things go for a last season? 
Surely there is no need to introduce another bad guy for the sake of it and the prospect of it just being a soap opera about Jax and Tara isn't inspiring. 
Could Sutter be pulling a swifty and bowing out next week? It's the kind of thing that fits in with how he operates.[/spoiler]

mariner4life

SOA
 
[spoiler]well well, what the fuck does Tara think is going to happen now? i didn't think she would sell out.

I can't see a way out for them, surely it's fucked? There have been a lot of bodies in the last couple of weeks. Nero and the Mayans could get ugly. The law is still hard on them. And now they are out of guns, are they out of friends? 
I honestly don't know how i want it to end now[/spoiler]

Quo vadis

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MId-season finale of Walking Dead was pretty good (Lauren Cohen - aka Maggie - is HOOOT) 
[spoiler]Bit annoyed that chick killed the Governor, Rick didnt kill him as he wanted him to turn. 
Did think it was a bit strange that for the most part about the confrontation, there were no Zombies about, despite rocking up in a tank and firing a warning shot, but once shooting started, all the Zombies found thier way to the prison.[/spoiler]
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Walking Dead was getting a bit dull, but it sure picked up in that last episode! 
 
now to have a break from TV shows and wait for GOT to resume.

Nepia

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Consdiering there is quite a bit of good (or watchable) Tv out there at the moment there is only one current show that I find myself waiting for the next installment on and that's SOA. I think tonight will sort out the Happy storyline.
 
To my surprise the other show that I don't wait on each week is Arrow. The Island story arc gets tedious but the show is finally getting into the comic groove instead of trying to look like a cheesy drama based on a comic. I hear that more comic book villians are in the pipeline too.
 
I enjoy Homeland each week now (despite the reappearance of the whiny daughter) but often don't catch up with it until later in the week.
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There's none for me at the moment - but Justified and Mad Men are two that usually are when they return.
 
I'd like to watch the original Israeli series that Homeland was based on Hatufim/Prisoners of War, but I haven't been able to acquire a copy.
 
The Island arc of Arrow is all good - it's the Maori arc ;).
 
 
SOA
[spoiler]This weeks episode all felt a bit meh - there really are just too many wheels turning at the moment.[/spoiler]

taniwharugby

SOA 
[spoiler]i think there was just too much going on, why would anyone trust Jax? He is doing what Clay woulda done to keep the club going, and Jax is doing it for the new direction. 
Tara probably now needs to quickly let Jax know her plan so he doesn't hunt her down. I assume she has a plan, cos I am sure finding her car won't be too hard. 
I wonder if we will see Nero's dark side now? 
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Tim

Black Mirror season 1 episode two was a fucking excellent bit of Ballardarian sci-fi. Technology magnifies obsession.

Crucial

Sherlock Season 3 starts first thing in 2014. The one we've been waiting for. Dying to see how he did it.
 
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taniwharugby

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Black Mirror season 1 episode two was a fucking excellent bit of Ballardarian sci-fi. Technology magnifies obsession.
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Sounds pretty good, I might have a look!

Tim

Ah shit, I meant episode 3 - The Entire History of You.

Crucial

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Ah shit, I meant episode 3 - The Entire History of You.
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Wiki says that Robert Downey Jnr has purchased the option on that episode to expand to a full length film.

Crucial

SOA
 
Well, that was a dumb idea to watch last night. I started it late and forgot that the season ender is usually a long ep. Was well past bedtime by the time I finished and then had trouble getting to sleep.
 
[spoiler]The worst bit was that you knew it was coming, could see the story leading there but weren't prepared for the horrible nature of it. 
All sorts of questions left unanswered about how the situation with the DA/ Jax/ Juice/ Gemma plays out. 
Sutter is a sick puppy and in this link he talks about last night. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/sons-of-anarchy-death_n_4426768.html'>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/sons-of-anarchy-death_n_4426768.html</a> [/spoiler]

mariner4life

Not impressed Kurt
 
[spoiler]i know it fits in with the whole show, but i am still pissed they killed her off. 
I wanted Gemma dead 2 weeks ago, now i hope Jax does it, and i reckon he will. He'll find out she "okayed" JT's death, he'll find out about Tara, and he'll kill her. And i'll cheer, long and loud. 
Next season is going to be bloody. At the halfway point last night i had decided the only way the show could possibly end was them all to die. Now? I still think it's going to head that way, but Jax will fuck off with the boys. 
Fuck Juice. 
I am also unimpressed with the offing of the Sheriff. Not cool. Now that Nero is a gang banger again, we're left with a show full of detestable characters. Oh, and bobby. [/spoiler]

Crucial

SOA
 
[spoiler]The sherrif killing would have just been fitted in as he hadn't signed for next season (has a major role elsewhere). 
It looks to me like the whole story has become Gemma's as much as Jax's (not surprising seeing as she's Sutter's missus). 
I can see a messy scene in the future with Wayne trying to save Gemma who is desperately reaching out to Nero who is fighting with Jax but having conscience issues. Then Jax finally realises his mother is actually the root of all evil not everyone else that has died to the point of this revelation. 
Then again, maybe Jax and Nero realise their latent homosexuality and move off to a ranch near Brokeback Mountain to raise their children leaving Gemma to live out her days wiping Wayne's ass. 
PS Juice is a fucking screwup[/spoiler]

taniwharugby

SOA
 
[spoiler]WTF!! Where do you start? 
I said it in another spoiler/post, Gemma is Kurt's wife, she will never get her come uppance, never! 
I reckon despite the way she will fight and do anything to save her family, she will lose everything and be left at the end of the next series alive, but completely alone, with Jax either dead or split with the kids (assuming he doesnt go to Jail, I mean what incentive is there now) 
Although he is in a bit of a pickle right now. 
Yeah rough with NEro heading over to the dark side, he has replaced Opie as the good in amongst all the sh!t. 
Not really sure what they will do with the final series (especially if Jax ends up in Jail) but obviously all hell is gonna break loose in Oakland with gang wars and the Sons are gonna be stuck in the middle. 
Juice is a pussy, I used to like him but his character has turned into a Pussy, and TBH I have no idea how he thinks cleaning up that scene will play out, not to mention killing the Sheriff. Does he think things will get pinned on Jax freeing him up outside or will he take the rap meaning Jax will kill him, and he finally gets to be dead? 
I wonder if it will come out that Gemma killed Tara, and if so, what will Uncer do, maybe she will die at his hand (given that would be the most surprising)
 
Assume if Jax goes to prison, and with Tara dead, Wendy will end up with the kids as that was what the will stated wasnt it? [/spoiler]

Tim

Veep is worth a look. Especially the 2nd season. It's very light weight and polished, but entertaining enough.

The Silver Fern

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