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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/105228938/taxpayers-foot-bill-when-chiropractic-treatment-goes-wrong

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    Well done that woman

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12096021

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    Time for a boycott of Condé Nast I reckon. How dare they insist on scientific fact checking in our Gwynnie’s mag.

    Matthew Moore, Media Correspondent

    Health facts got in the way of Gwyneth Paltrow’s lifestyle magazine Goop

    Health facts got in the way of Gwyneth Paltrow’s lifestyle magazine Goop

    The print magazine of Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop lifestyle brand was shut down after the publisher Condé Nast insisted on fact-checking the health claims made by alternative healers.The magazine, goop, was launched with great fanfare last year but only two issues were produced before the project was aba

    Health facts got in the way of Gwyneth Paltrow’s lifestyle magazine Goop
    The print magazine of Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop lifestyle brand was shut down after the publisher Condé Nast insisted on fact-checking the health claims made by alternative healers.

    The magazine, goop, was launched with great fanfare last year but only two issues were produced before the project was abandoned.

    Paltrow has now revealed that the partnership failed because of Condé Nast’s “old-school” rules, including that the advice offered by health experts was scientifically verified.

    The Goop website and lifestyle brand was founded by the actress in 2008 and is now valued at about $250 million.

    It regularly attracts criticism for promoting questionable new age therapies, most notoriously recommending that women pay for a “v-steam” to cleanse the uterus.

    The editorial standards imposed by Condé Nast, publisher of titles including Vogue and Vanity Fair, resulted in articles publicising the unconventional views of Goop-friendly doctors and healers being pulled from the magazine at the last minute to be replaced with less controversial pieces, it is claimed.

    The alleged reasons behind the publication’s failure were revealed by The New York Times Magazine in a lengthy interview with Paltrow, a US actress who divorced Chris Martin, the Coldplay singer, in 2016.

    “They’re a company that’s really in transition and do things in a very old-school way,” Paltrow, 45, said of Condé Nast. She defended Goop’s policy of allowing new age healers to make unchallenged claims about the benefits of outlandish therapies. “We’re never making statements,” she said.

    The NYT Magazine piece also claims that Condé Nast executives objected to Paltrow’s wish to use the magazine as a catalogue for Goop’s products, insisting on a more neutral editorial policy.

    Doctors and scientists have criticised dozens of health claims on the Goop website, warning that junk science puts consumers’ welfare at risk. Wearable stickers that help your body heal, “sex dust” to sprinkle in your smoothie, and jade eggs that boost feminine energy when inserted into the vagina are among the Goop products that have been derided by medical experts. Doctors also condemned a Goop article suggesting that breast cancer could be caused by underwire bras.

    The New York Times article highlights how Paltrow harnessed these controversies to boost sales. “I can monetise those eyeballs,” she is quoted as telling an audience of Harvard students. “It’s a cultural firestorm when it’s about a woman’s vagina.”

    Before launching Goop, Paltrow was best known for films including Emma and Shakespeare in Love, for which she won a best actress Oscar in 1999.

    She married Martin in 2003. They announced their “conscious uncoupling” in 2014, divorcing two years later.

    The short-lived goop magazine was priced at $15. Both issues featured Paltrow on the front cover.

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    @jc here’s the nyt piece

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/25/magazine/big-business-gwyneth-paltrow-wellness.html

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    Fuck science, what had science ever done for us!

    ![alt text](![0_1532635148145_c29907cf-96d3-4fec-8d5f-4081ca0fa9e3-image.gif](Uploading 100%) image url)

    As someone who has access and needs to know about kids medical problems, it's frightening how many aren't vaccinated. Never has Idiocracy been more relevant

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    @jc is a cultural firestorm about a woman’s vagina something to do with thrush?

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    So the British Homeopathic Association sued the NHS after it stopped paying for homeopathic treatment prescribed by alternative-friendly GPs. They lost and now the NHS wants its costs to be paid. Good on them, good on the judges, and ha bloody ha to the snake oil sellers.

    Chris Smyth, Health Editor

    NHS demands legal costs from failed homeopathy challenge

    NHS demands legal costs from failed homeopathy challenge

    NHS England is trying to reclaim £120,000 in legal costs from a homeopathic charity as it argues that taxpayers should not pick up the tab for “tap water masquerading as medicine”. It insists that taxpayers will not be left out of pocket as a result of a failed legal challenge from alternative medi

    NHS England is trying to reclaim £120,000 in legal costs from a homeopathic charity as it argues that taxpayers should not pick up the tab for “tap water masquerading as medicine”.

    It insists that taxpayers will not be left out of pocket as a result of a failed legal challenge from alternative medicine “vested interests” after it was awarded costs in the case. The British Homeopathic Association (BHA) said that the challenge was a “risk worth taking”, and that it would pay the fees by crowdfunding from patients who felt they had benefited from the treatment.

    Last year NHS England stopped funding GPs to prescribe homeopathic treatments as part of a drive to save money by banishing “low-value” treatments from routine use. Simon Stevens, chief executive of NHS England, said that homeopathy was “at best a placebo and a misuse of scarce NHS funds”, prompting a legal challenge from the BHA, which claimed he was biased.

    However, a judicial review concluded that homeopaths had been given a fair opportunity to prove “that homeopathy actually works”. While Mr Justice Supperstone said that “it would not be appropriate for the court to pass judgment on the legitimacy or otherwise of the view that homeopathy works”, he concluded that NHS England was capable of assessing fairly recent evidence on the effectiveness of the treatment.

    The BHA has been told to pay £120,000 in costs, about 95 per cent of what NHS England spent on lawyers. The judge said that the BHA’s attempt to introduce 1,600 pages of academic literature on homeopathy into the case at the last minute was “unreasonable conduct to a high degree”.

    Homeopathy uses extremely diluted remedies based on the principle that “like cures like”, which has no basis in conventional science. There is little evidence that the treatments are more effective than a placebo, although sceptics acknowledge that after conversations with practitioners patients often feel better.

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    @jc said in Woo:...
    Homeopathy uses extremely diluted remedies based on the principle that “like cures like”, which has no basis in conventional science. There is little evidence that the treatments are more effective than a placebo, although sceptics acknowledge that after conversations with practitioners patients often feel better.

    So there you have it. Homeopathy DOES work. It can cure some more acute forms of hypochondria..

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz//lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12096021&ref=clavis

    This Dr deserves a million likes

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    @jc that’s gold, now let’s all point and laugh them

    Save NHS Homeopathy | Campaign to keep Homeopathy a part of the NHS
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    Is acupuncture woo?

    I got a tender and painful lateral epicondylitus (tennis elbow) a couple of months ago. Couldn't grasp and carry things and thought about it many times an hour (When you get old there are infinite aches and pains and a hierarchy develops determined by how many times you think "that fucken knee" or "fuck that elbow hurts again")

    Just completed 6 weeks of acupuncture for the first time , mostly to satisfy curiosity. 20-25 minutes each session with 4 needles poking out of the elbow under a heatlamp. You just lie there listening to headphones.

    Felt it getting better over time, i.e. less noise from the conscience dwelling pain reporter, and overall bloody well done young Jack the chinaman.

    A genuine option for muscular aches and strains I reckon

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    @siam said in Woo:

    Is acupuncture woo?

    I got a tender and painful lateral epicondylitus (tennis elbow) a couple of months ago. Couldn't grasp and carry things and thought about it many times an hour (When you get old there are infinite aches and pains and a hierarchy develops determined by how many times you think "that fucken knee" or "fuck that elbow hurts again")

    Just completed 6 weeks of acupuncture for the first time , mostly to satisfy curiosity. 20-25 minutes each session with 4 needles poking out of the elbow under a heatlamp. You just lie there listening to headphones.

    Felt it getting better over time, i.e. less noise from the conscience dwelling pain reporter, and overall bloody well done young Jack the chinaman.

    A genuine option for muscular aches and strains I reckon

    If used for the right thing it is not woo. It will help with aches and pains, but won't cure cancer or an ugly disposition

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    @jegga said in Woo:

    @jc that’s gold, now let’s all point and laugh them

    Save NHS Homeopathy | Campaign to keep Homeopathy a part of the NHS

    As a fervent supporter of of homeopathy I gave them absolutely nothing, because that’s more effective than using real money.

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    @canefan said in Woo:

    @siam said in Woo:

    Is acupuncture woo?

    I got a tender and painful lateral epicondylitus (tennis elbow) a couple of months ago. Couldn't grasp and carry things and thought about it many times an hour (When you get old there are infinite aches and pains and a hierarchy develops determined by how many times you think "that fucken knee" or "fuck that elbow hurts again")

    Just completed 6 weeks of acupuncture for the first time , mostly to satisfy curiosity. 20-25 minutes each session with 4 needles poking out of the elbow under a heatlamp. You just lie there listening to headphones.

    Felt it getting better over time, i.e. less noise from the conscience dwelling pain reporter, and overall bloody well done young Jack the chinaman.

    A genuine option for muscular aches and strains I reckon

    If used for the right thing it is not woo. It will help with aches and pains, but won't cure ... an ugly disposition

    Well it fucking well cured my ugly disposition and you bastards can all just piss off if you don’t agree. Pricks.

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    @siam said in Woo:

    Is acupuncture woo?

    I got a tender and painful lateral epicondylitus (tennis elbow) a couple of months ago. Couldn't grasp and carry things and thought about it many times an hour (When you get old there are infinite aches and pains and a hierarchy develops determined by how many times you think "that fucken knee" or "fuck that elbow hurts again")

    Just completed 6 weeks of acupuncture for the first time , mostly to satisfy curiosity. 20-25 minutes each session with 4 needles poking out of the elbow under a heatlamp. You just lie there listening to headphones.

    Felt it getting better over time, i.e. less noise from the conscience dwelling pain reporter, and overall bloody well done young Jack the chinaman.

    A genuine option for muscular aches and strains I reckon

    My ex got acupuncture when she was pregnant, the guy doing it damaged a nerve in the sole of her foot . I think the damage was permanent too, maybe not as effective on cloven hoofs?

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    @jegga said in Woo:

    @siam said in Woo:

    Is acupuncture woo?

    I got a tender and painful lateral epicondylitus (tennis elbow) a couple of months ago. Couldn't grasp and carry things and thought about it many times an hour (When you get old there are infinite aches and pains and a hierarchy develops determined by how many times you think "that fucken knee" or "fuck that elbow hurts again")

    Just completed 6 weeks of acupuncture for the first time , mostly to satisfy curiosity. 20-25 minutes each session with 4 needles poking out of the elbow under a heatlamp. You just lie there listening to headphones.

    Felt it getting better over time, i.e. less noise from the conscience dwelling pain reporter, and overall bloody well done young Jack the chinaman.

    A genuine option for muscular aches and strains I reckon

    My ex got acupuncture when she was pregnant, the guy doing it damaged a nerve in the sole of her foot . I think the damage was permanent too, maybe not as effective on cloven hoofs?

    I take it it didn't cure her disposition either?

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @canefan said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    @siam said in Woo:

    Is acupuncture woo?

    I got a tender and painful lateral epicondylitus (tennis elbow) a couple of months ago. Couldn't grasp and carry things and thought about it many times an hour (When you get old there are infinite aches and pains and a hierarchy develops determined by how many times you think "that fucken knee" or "fuck that elbow hurts again")

    Just completed 6 weeks of acupuncture for the first time , mostly to satisfy curiosity. 20-25 minutes each session with 4 needles poking out of the elbow under a heatlamp. You just lie there listening to headphones.

    Felt it getting better over time, i.e. less noise from the conscience dwelling pain reporter, and overall bloody well done young Jack the chinaman.

    A genuine option for muscular aches and strains I reckon

    My ex got acupuncture when she was pregnant, the guy doing it damaged a nerve in the sole of her foot . I think the damage was permanent too, maybe not as effective on cloven hoofs?

    I take it it didn't cure her disposition either?

    Hell no .

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    @jegga always in the back of your mind when old mate sticks pins in you

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    @siam where?

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    @canefan of course the pro-disease fuckwit was called "Artemis" can't we ship these fluffybunnies to their own disease-riddled enclave in the Simpson Desert? Fuck these guys.

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