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Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup

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    Finally, a little bit of background info to the squad naming.

    Six members of last year's unbeaten national champion Hastings Boys' High School 1st XV side punctuate the blend the coaching stable has assembled to weave some magic from "experience and youthful exuberance".
    
    Ozich, a former HBHS 1st XV mentor, said the pre-season matches so far had offered the promising and talented newcomers the opportunity to gain some exposure.
    
    "It's a big step up to the pace and physicality of the [cup] for those young guys so they can get a feel for it ... so the idea is to blood them through over time."
    
    That would vary for individuals, from a few months to a year or two, to make adjustments to fulfil their portfolios.
    
    "It's all part of it in managing those young guys. You don't want to set them up to fail or throw them in the deep end without any support."
    

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    NTOB prop and 2017 world champion Baby Black Tim Farrell, while named, has been ruled out of the season with a shoulder injury while All Black lock Brodie Retallick isn't expected to to turn out due to international duties.
    
    MAC loose forward Solomone Funaki has been included as temporary injury cover for NOBM loosie Hannon Brighouse who is expected to be out for the first month due to a knee injury.
    

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    Ozich said the Magpies would endeavour to compete in every game when the cup begins from August 16.
    
    "Who knows what the outcomes will be. So there'll be a bit of rebuilding but we have to be realistic and also be pretty hellbent on competing to get better and challenge teams.
    
    "If we're young, hopefully, we're exciting and we will have a bit of experience around them," he said. "The big thing for me is the boys will compete and they won't give in, and show some pride in the jersey."
    
    No doubt the Magpies will have their fingers crossed to avoid grappling with the injury demons.
    

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12103625

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      I read that article as Ozich saying that we shouldn't expect the young ex-Hastings Boys players get much game time this season, although it's hard to see how that's possible with respect to Fakatava and McClutchie, because that would mean Weber and Falcon would have to play 80 minutes every game.

      I think it's reasonable to expect all other young lads to play at the Jock Hobbs U19 tournament in September though.

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        I read that article as Ozich saying that we shouldn't expect the young ex-Hastings Boys players get much game time this season, although it's hard to see how that's possible with respect to Fakatava and McClutchie, because that would mean Weber and Falcon would have to play 80 minutes every game.

        I think it's reasonable to expect all other young lads to play at the Jock Hobbs U19 tournament in September though.

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        @stargazer I think thats smart,throwing young kids in too early can do more harm than good.That being said with guys like Cridge,Evans and Mays injury records plenty of the squad will get a run at some stage,imo.

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          @stargazer I think thats smart,throwing young kids in too early can do more harm than good.That being said with guys like Cridge,Evans and Mays injury records plenty of the squad will get a run at some stage,imo.

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          @kiwimatrix Yep, I agree. It's easy to get excited by all those youngsters being named in the squad but it's quite a step up from school rugby to Mitre 10 Cup.

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            Magpies squad for the preseason game against Manawatu this afternoon (Tremain Field, k/o 1.00pm)

            1 Mark Braidwood
            2 Ben Power
            3 Joe Apikotoa
            4 Tom Parsons
            5 Sam Ulufonua
            6 Devan Flanders
            7 Josh Kaifa
            8 Marino Mikaele-Tu’u
            9 Folau Fakatava
            10 Tiaan Falcon
            11 Mason Emerson (c)
            12 Pasqualle Dunn
            13 Stacey Ili
            14 Michael Buckley
            15 JJ Taulagi

            16 Kianu Kereru- Symes
            17 Ash Dixon
            18 Pouri Rakete-Stones
            19 Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe
            20 Michael Allardice
            21 Fa’alemiga Selesele
            22 Nathan Tweedy
            23 Brad Weber
            24 Sasa Tofilau
            25 Shae Tucker
            26 Danny Toala

            Anyone able to go to give us some liveupdates?

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              Evans and fellow Hurricane, prop Ben May, don't return until next week.
              
              Tremain, fellow loosies Solomone Funaki and Hannon Brighouse, props Jason Long and Tim Farrell, first five-eighth Lincoln McClutchie and lock Geoff Cridge will all miss today's game with injuries. Hooker Jacob Devery has been released to play for the Saracens against Poverty Bay at Park Island tomorrow.
              

              I hope that injury list will be shorter when the season starts next week, although Farrell is out for the season and Brighouse for the the first month or so. I wonder who'll be the back-up first five-eighth in the absence of McClutchie? Taulagi, Toala, Ili?

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12104320

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                14 minutes in and we're already trailing 0 - 14. 🙁

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                  Devan Flanders with the line-break, going for our first try at the end of the first half.

                  Half time: Magpies 5 - 21 Turbos

                  It sounds a bit like a reality check. Glad some of the cavalry will be coming off the bench. Will be interesting to see what impact they'll have.

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                    Kianu Kereru-Symes has just scored off a line-out drive: Hawke's Bay 12 - 21 Manawatu

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                      12 - 26 Manawatu

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                        Try Falcon after an offload from Ash Dixon.
                        19 - 26 Manawatu

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                          Try Michael Buckley in the corner.
                          24 - 26 Manawatu

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                            Manawatu in again: 24 - 33

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                              Mason Emerson scoring off a Taulagi offload: 31 - 33 Manawatu

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                                It's going fast! Try Tom Parsons off a line-out drive. We're leading now: 36 - 33

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                                  https://twitter.com/hbmagpies/status/1027744533931384833

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                                    FT: Magpies 41 - 33 Manawatu

                                    So indeed, the bench with our SR players must have made the difference. Great to get another win, although we leaked too many tries at the beginning of the first half.

                                    Edit: it also looks like Falcon needs to work on his goal kicking. Seven tries, 3 conversions. (That's assuming he played 80 minutes).

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                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12104946

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                                        49 Minutes-long video of the Magpies v Turbos preseason game:

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                                          There is another Mitre10 Cup Competition running in conjunction with the on the field one. That's the Tipping Contpetition run by the Silver Fern's KiwiPie. Teams consist of six tippers with the top five score from each week counting. At this stage the Bay have five tippers in the lineup and still need one other person to commit to upholding the honour of the Bay.
                                          Surely there must be someone out there to join Stockcar86, Stargazer, Skudderstep, Paj and yours truly in mounting a full strength squad in our attempt to dethrone the Wai-Bush outfit that has swept all before them for too long now.

                                          Don't be shy, here's the link needed to get your tips in, hopefully by 7.34pm tonight, but if not by then still tip away and the remaining games will all still be counted!

                                          https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1BoKFSRpmTmlO-VdhnxMtoNDHTPtODtCGwgXqabqZ3OM/edit?usp=sharing

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