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Chiefs 2019

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  • C cgrant

    I don't know whether there is surplus at loosehead. Hames is not sure to recover from his concussion while Tim Perry, though sound, is not a worldclass prop. That leaves Karl T and Joe Moody there, compared to the tight head where the queue looks longer (Franks, Ofa T, Laulala, JTA and maybe Fidow for the long term).

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    @cgrant Franks will be off soon, JTA is not world class either and where the hell is Laulala...to be honest I'd forgotten about him.

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      @cgrant said in Chiefs 2019:

      I don't know whether there is surplus at loosehead. Hames is not sure to recover from his concussion while Tim Perry, though sound, is not a worldclass prop. That leaves Karl T and Joe Moody there, compared to the tight head where the queue looks longer (Franks, Ofa T, Laulala, JTA and maybe Fidow for the long term).

      Lindenmuth?

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      @booboo Aidan Ross too. The Chiefs scrum was looking very strong before his injury and he could have found himself in the same position Karl T now is.

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        @cgrant said in Chiefs 2019:

        I don't know whether there is surplus at loosehead. Hames is not sure to recover from his concussion while Tim Perry, though sound, is not a worldclass prop. That leaves Karl T and Joe Moody there, compared to the tight head where the queue looks longer (Franks, Ofa T, Laulala, JTA and maybe Fidow for the long term).

        Lindenmuth?

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        @booboo said in Chiefs 2019:

        @cgrant said in Chiefs 2019:

        I don't know whether there is surplus at loosehead. Hames is not sure to recover from his concussion while Tim Perry, though sound, is not a worldclass prop. That leaves Karl T and Joe Moody there, compared to the tight head where the queue looks longer (Franks, Ofa T, Laulala, JTA and maybe Fidow for the long term).

        Lindenmuth?

        Agree with logic, but having two world class scrummagers is about all one can expect on each side. We have two/three at LH and one/two at TH. Laulala has NMS syndrome and Ofa and JTA are holding operations at scrum time.

        BTW Franks has been a weapon since getting back to full fitness. Messed the Beast up properly against the Sharks. He will be badly missed.

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          Lomax is another THP who must be watched with attention next year. He has improved a lot lately after being rather "meh" in the early rounds.
          And there is Ala'atoa too.

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            Sorry, I meant Alaalatoa.

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            • C cgrant

              Lomax is another THP who must be watched with attention next year. He has improved a lot lately after being rather "meh" in the early rounds.
              And there is Ala'atoa too.

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              @cgrant said in Chiefs 2019:

              Lomax is another THP who must be watched with attention next year. He has improved a lot lately after being rather "meh" in the early rounds.

              Has he improved a lot lately? Genuine question.

              I haven't taken notice of him since the Maori ABs tour last November where he and the Maori scrum were getting minced.

              He was almost single handedly keeping alive the French scrummaging myth .....

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              • BonesB Bones

                @cgrant Franks will be off soon, JTA is not world class either and where the hell is Laulala...to be honest I'd forgotten about him.

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                @bones said in Chiefs 2019:

                @cgrant Franks will be off soon, JTA is not world class either and where the hell is Laulala...to be honest I'd forgotten about him.

                Franks seems like he's been around forever, but he's only 30. Depending on whether he wants an overseas adventure, it's just possible he could do another RWC cycle.

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                  I think they'll likely recruit Alaalatoa which would give us for now in my hierarchy:

                  Franks, Laulala, Ofa, Alaalatoa, JTA.

                  At loosehead: Moody, Hames, Tuinukuafe, Perry - others who have been injured and haven't had a chance.

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                    @bones said in Chiefs 2019:

                    @cgrant Franks will be off soon, JTA is not world class either and where the hell is Laulala...to be honest I'd forgotten about him.

                    Franks seems like he's been around forever, but he's only 30. Depending on whether he wants an overseas adventure, it's just possible he could do another RWC cycle.

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                    @chris-b yeah so he'd be 35 come the next one. As good as he is, he's seemingly on a decline, especially athletically. A 35yo TH who's not exactly known for his around the park enthusiasm? Maybe a good bloke to have as back up or on the next flight should injuries occur, but I can't see him being top flight in 5 years.

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                      @chris-b yeah so he'd be 35 come the next one. As good as he is, he's seemingly on a decline, especially athletically. A 35yo TH who's not exactly known for his around the park enthusiasm? Maybe a good bloke to have as back up or on the next flight should injuries occur, but I can't see him being top flight in 5 years.

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                      @bones You wouldn't really bet on it, but having a crack might be dependent on whether the ABs win again next year. Four RWC winners medals would be almost impossible to top - and that's all I have to say about that. 🙂

                      Supposedly, the operations he had in the off season are going to give him a new lease of life, so will be interesting to see how he's travelling at the end of this year.

                      He's an interesting one is Owen. You don't often hear AB supporters championing him as the world's best tighthead, but he's been unchallenged for the ABs for nearly a decade.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @bones You wouldn't really bet on it, but having a crack might be dependent on whether the ABs win again next year. Four RWC winners medals would be almost impossible to top - and that's all I have to say about that. 🙂

                        Supposedly, the operations he had in the off season are going to give him a new lease of life, so will be interesting to see how he's travelling at the end of this year.

                        He's an interesting one is Owen. You don't often hear AB supporters championing him as the world's best tighthead, but he's been unchallenged for the ABs for nearly a decade.

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                        @chris-b said in Chiefs 2019:

                        @bones You wouldn't really bet on it, but having a crack might be dependent on whether the ABs win again next year. Four RWC winners medals would be almost impossible to top - and that's all I have to say about that. 🙂

                        Supposedly, the operations he had in the off season are going to give him a new lease of life, so will be interesting to see how he's travelling at the end of this year.

                        He's an interesting one is Owen. You don't often hear AB supporters championing him as the world's best tighthead, but he's been unchallenged for the ABs for nearly a decade.

                        Didn't he used to be a bit more dynamic in defence ? I don't watch as much Rugby as some of the rest of you but I definitely remember some big hits....I don't recall a single tackle bust though.

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                        • RapidoR Rapido

                          @cgrant said in Chiefs 2019:

                          Lomax is another THP who must be watched with attention next year. He has improved a lot lately after being rather "meh" in the early rounds.

                          Has he improved a lot lately? Genuine question.

                          I haven't taken notice of him since the Maori ABs tour last November where he and the Maori scrum were getting minced.

                          He was almost single handedly keeping alive the French scrummaging myth .....

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                          @rapido said in Chiefs 2019:

                          @cgrant said in Chiefs 2019:

                          Lomax is another THP who must be watched with attention next year. He has improved a lot lately after being rather "meh" in the early rounds.

                          Has he improved a lot lately? Genuine question.

                          I haven't taken notice of him since the Maori ABs tour last November where he and the Maori scrum were getting minced.

                          He was almost single handedly keeping alive the French scrummaging myth .....
                          "Lately" means the second half of the 2018 SR. Before that, I agree with you, he was really soft. But the Landers scrum fared very well with him on the TH. They had the Tahs scrum back pedaling in the quarter final but this game will be remembered for the Naholo's YC.

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                            From the Blues thread, regarding Auckland centre Tumua Manu:

                            Not sure how accurate the info is but I believe the Chiefs may have snapped him up.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              From the Blues thread, regarding Auckland centre Tumua Manu:

                              Not sure how accurate the info is but I believe the Chiefs may have snapped him up.

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                              @tim

                              Yes!!!!!!!

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                                @tim

                                Yes!!!!!!!

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                                @gt12 :pouting_face:

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                                  Is fletcher smith signed to highlanders? If not chiefs need to pick him up. Same with Tupaea

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                                    Is fletcher smith signed to highlanders? If not chiefs need to pick him up. Same with Tupaea

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                                    @yeahtheboys said in Chiefs 2019:

                                    Is fletcher smith signed to highlanders? If not chiefs need to pick him up. Same with Tupaea

                                    Jeff Wilson said Smith hasn't been re-signed by the Highlanders yet during the Waikato-Wellington commentary. He'd be a big upgrade on MMac.

                                    As to Tupaea, if the Chiefs don't someone else will. Still a handful of places to fill I believe.

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                                      @yeahtheboys said in Chiefs 2019:

                                      Is fletcher smith signed to highlanders? If not chiefs need to pick him up. Same with Tupaea

                                      Jeff Wilson said Smith hasn't been re-signed by the Highlanders yet during the Waikato-Wellington commentary. He'd be a big upgrade on MMac.

                                      As to Tupaea, if the Chiefs don't someone else will. Still a handful of places to fill I believe.

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                                      @bovidae IIRC, ALB and Nankivell are the only midfielders signed for 2019, and Nankivell is fringe Super Rugby quality at best.

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                                        yeah I think when Fletcher SMith was close to signign with NOrthland for this M10 Cup he had an eye on a Blues contract.

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                                          yeah I think when Fletcher SMith was close to signign with NOrthland for this M10 Cup he had an eye on a Blues contract.

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                                          @taniwharugby Plummer on a development contract?

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