2018 School Rugby
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@bovidae Having seen at first hand how these competitions are squeezed in I'm not too down on the CNI.
You can't start until cricket finishes, and the fields are usually too hard anyway. Teams like to play some warm-up and traditional games.
You can't play through the holidays, although most 1st XVs will play some of them when other school games aren't on.
You simply run out of weekends.
Midweek games are difficult with CNI because of the distances -- losing two school days for a game isn't great, and training around such travel is a bitch.
They will have seen the problem right at the start, and just accepted it as inevitable. Most of the CNI teams are pretty realistic about their ability to beat Super 8 teams.
Not that I won't be cheering for St Paul's.
Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
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Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
@bovidae said in 2018 School Rugby:
Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
That would seem like a regressive step? How many of the CNI are from the Chiefs region?
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@bovidae said in 2018 School Rugby:
Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
That would seem like a regressive step? How many of the CNI are from the Chiefs region?
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@bovidae said in 2018 School Rugby:
Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
That would seem like a regressive step? How many of the CNI are from the Chiefs region?
@nepia said in 2018 School Rugby:
@bovidae said in 2018 School Rugby:
Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
That would seem like a regressive step? How many of the CNI are from the Chiefs region?
Francis Douglas - New Plymouth (5)
St John's College - Hamilton (10)
St Paul's Collegiat - Hamilton (1)
St Peter's School - Cambridge (3)
Wesley College - Pukekohe (4)So 5 of the 11 schools. The number between brackets refers to their ranking after the round robin.
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@nepia said in 2018 School Rugby:
@bovidae said in 2018 School Rugby:
Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
That would seem like a regressive step? How many of the CNI are from the Chiefs region?
Francis Douglas - New Plymouth (5)
St John's College - Hamilton (10)
St Paul's Collegiat - Hamilton (1)
St Peter's School - Cambridge (3)
Wesley College - Pukekohe (4)So 5 of the 11 schools. The number between brackets refers to their ranking after the round robin.
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@stargazer So only Feilding Ag upholding things for the Hurricanes Schools by the looks of things
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Lindisfarne already play Wanganui Collegiate and Rathkeale in annual fixtures from that CNI comp
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Well done to the mighty St Peter's College!!!!! A very proud old boy here haha. Hard luck to King's at the same time and gotta feel for Lucas Halls dropping the ball right at the end. He was fantastic and is destined to go far as a professinal, a real talent.
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These are the results I've seen thus far; no doubt more to come:
Auckland 1A Final
St Peter's College 29 v King's College 28Auckland 1B Final
Tangaroa College 31, Macleans College 7CNI Final
St Paul's Collegiate 24 v Feilding High School 17Hurricanes Top 4 Qualifier
Hastings BHS 43 v Palmerston North BH 21UC
Plate Final: Nelson College 36 v Marlborough Boys' College 35 -
Well done to the mighty St Peter's College!!!!! A very proud old boy here haha. Hard luck to King's at the same time and gotta feel for Lucas Halls dropping the ball right at the end. He was fantastic and is destined to go far as a professinal, a real talent.
@african-monkey what position is Halls?
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@african-monkey what position is Halls?
@kiwimurph Centre. He's a handful with a fair bit of toe to go with his massive frame.
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@african-monkey what position is Halls?
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@kiwimurph Centre.
@stargazer @African-Monkey cheers. Nice.
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These are the results I've seen thus far; no doubt more to come:
Auckland 1A Final
St Peter's College 29 v King's College 28Auckland 1B Final
Tangaroa College 31, Macleans College 7CNI Final
St Paul's Collegiate 24 v Feilding High School 17Hurricanes Top 4 Qualifier
Hastings BHS 43 v Palmerston North BH 21UC
Plate Final: Nelson College 36 v Marlborough Boys' College 35 -
@stargazer So does Hastings play one Wellington school and Napier play another one now?
@nepia Yes, as the highest placed Super 8 team from the Hurricanes region, Napier will play the runner-up from the Wellington Premiership at home, and Hastings as the no. 2 will play the Premiership winners in Wellington. That Wellington Premiership Final will be played tomorrow. Hurricanes Top 4 semi-finals are next Saturday.
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@bovidae said in 2018 School Rugby:
Looking at the CNI website St Paul's played St Johns Hastings and Te Atute away on a Wed and Sat, respectively. There were a number of midweek games played by other teams too. That's what happens with 11 teams in the comp and the travel distances.
I read that there is a rumour that the CNI teams from the Chiefs region may go it alone next year.
That would seem like a regressive step? How many of the CNI are from the Chiefs region?
The problem is that the CNI extends from Paerata (Welsey) in the north to Masterton (Rathkeale) in the south. That's a lot of travelling. They might be better to have a north and south region (adding a few schools if required) where the top 2 teams from each region meet in cross-over semis and then a final. Fielding HS would dominate the south region but the north would be much more competitive.
I see that Wesley only joined in 2017, and St Johns Hamilton this year. St Paul's have been the strongest school over the whole competition.
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Rotorua BHS beat Tauranga BC 32-3 in the BOP region Chiefs Top 4 playoff. I'm not sure if Wesley and the top team from Taranaki (NPBHS or FDMC) are also involved in the playoffs or Rotorua just plays the winner of the Waikato Top 4 qualifier next Sat.
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Rotorua BHS beat Tauranga BC 32-3 in the BOP region Chiefs Top 4 playoff. I'm not sure if Wesley and the top team from Taranaki (NPBHS or FDMC) are also involved in the playoffs or Rotorua just plays the winner of the Waikato Top 4 qualifier next Sat.
@bovidae Isn't there a Chiefs equivalent of the Hurricanes Youth Council? HYC seems to be the organisation that coordinates all the inter-provincial rugby in the Canes region for players under the age of 20. Not the local or regional school competions, but U19s seeding competition, Hurricanes Top 4, rep rugby tournaments for U18s to younger age grades, also sevens. They also organise the Hurricanes age grade camps & special skills days for school girls, for example. Their website lists all the fixtures. It would be handy if there was such a thing in the other SR regions.
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I don't know who administers and co-ordinates age-group rugby in the Chiefs region.
All I know is that I was given the fixture list for Hamilton BHS before the season and Aug 18 and 25 were scheduled for the Chiefs Top 4 qualifying games. Previously the top team from C-M, Waikato and BOP would play eachother to decide the Chiefs winner but that has changed with the addition of Taranaki.
