Bledisloe II
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwimurph said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter Agreed but with Hooper captain and being paid so many $ they are forced into starting him.
Yeah, it's a pretty ridiculous situation they've got themselves into there.
Holy hell Folau on $2.2m? Like fuck he's worth even half of that.
How can they justify paying him that much? That's more than 1 million more than his captain! No wonder he's in no hurry to return to League.
it shows how desperate they are , to us kiwis he is seen as a bit over rated ,
But to them he is their biggest star , someone to pin their hopes on
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwimurph said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter Agreed but with Hooper captain and being paid so many $ they are forced into starting him.
Yeah, it's a pretty ridiculous situation they've got themselves into there.
Holy hell Folau on $2.2m? Like fuck he's worth even half of that.
How can they justify paying him that much? That's more than 1 million more than his captain! No wonder he's in no hurry to return to League.
it shows how desperate they are , to us kiwis he is seen as a bit over rated ,
But to them he is their biggest star , someone to pin their hopes on
I think they're also desperate to get League eyeballs. Maybe Leagies will watch games for Folau like we used to watch league games just for Inga (well me anyway)? They've also got no other marketable players. James O'Connor had enormous potential but we know how that went... That kid must have lost millions.
But that salary is obscene. I can't see how they could possibly get a ROI from that.
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@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
@shark said in Bledisloe II:
Plenty of people saw it in Nonu. The problem was he was a spare part from 2003 until after RWC 2007. As mentioned, he had serious competition for the 12 jersey when Mauger and McAlister were around - and prior to that, Tana also - but once he was given a few opportunities at 12 he flourished quickly and his game developed rapidly. I don't see that early level of flourishment or development in the 12 jersey at the top level in Laumape's game and therefore I don't see him kicking on.
What a load of crap. Laumape is only 2nd season Super Rugby if I’m not mistaken. Once again it’s flavour of the month to diss him. Tuipolotou and Saiili were extremely average ABs.
Laumape has just finished his 3rd season of Super Rugby.
@kiwimurph said in Bledisloe II:
@billy-tell said in Bledisloe II:
@shark said in Bledisloe II:
Plenty of people saw it in Nonu. The problem was he was a spare part from 2003 until after RWC 2007. As mentioned, he had serious competition for the 12 jersey when Mauger and McAlister were around - and prior to that, Tana also - but once he was given a few opportunities at 12 he flourished quickly and his game developed rapidly. I don't see that early level of flourishment or development in the 12 jersey at the top level in Laumape's game and therefore I don't see him kicking on.
What a load of crap. Laumape is only 2nd season Super Rugby if I’m not mistaken. Once again it’s flavour of the month to diss him. Tuipolotou and Saiili were extremely average ABs.
Laumape has just finished his 3rd season of Super Rugby.
He was absolutely superb in his 2nd season, I was really hoping he'd build on that form and develop other parts of his game further, but it just hasn't happened. Has bucket-loads of potential though.
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Historically Aussie rugby players have always been paid more than ABs. I remember seeing a list back in the day that had Gregans wage and it was eye watering. Then there was the Medicare Matt, Lote and Hello deals.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe II:
@bones said in Bledisloe II:
@shark said in Bledisloe II:
I don't think Laumape has that in him. I see him more as a temporary measure ala Sam Tuitopou or Francis Sai'ili.
To be fair, no one saw it in Nonu either.
Had shit hands, couldn't defend. Could run though.
His last 4-5 years were as good as any 12 has ever played. Jet.
Best I've ever seen. Even better than Horan imho. Absolute beast with ridiculous skillset.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
Best I've ever seen. Even better than Horan imho. Absolute beast with ridiculous skillset.
Even better than Bernie McCahill?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
Best I've ever seen. Even better than Horan imho. Absolute beast with ridiculous skillset.
Even better than Bernie McCahill?
@dogmeat said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
Best I've ever seen. Even better than Horan imho. Absolute beast with ridiculous skillset.
Even better than Bernie McCahill?
He wasn't as big as him.
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So we're agreed this will be the backline:
9. A Smith
10. Beaudy
11. Naholo
12. SBW.
13. Goodhue.
14. B Smith
15. Jordie.Bench will be TJP, DMac, ALB.
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So we're agreed this will be the backline:
9. A Smith
10. Beaudy
11. Naholo
12. SBW.
13. Goodhue.
14. B Smith
15. Jordie.Bench will be TJP, DMac, ALB.
@antipodean said in Bledisloe II:
So we're agreed this will be the backline:
9. A Smith
10. Beaudy
11. Naholo
12. SBW.
13. Goodhue.
14. B Smith
15. Jordie.Bench will be TJP, DMac, ALB.
no
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substitute will for should then.
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only 1 Crusader - that is the inverse of an @ACT-Crusader backline.
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substitute will for should then.
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At least Ngani hasn't resorted to wearing mascara. We used to have fun calling him Ma'ascara.
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@bovidae said in Bledisloe II:
At least Ngani hasn't resorted to wearing mascara. We used to have fun calling him Ma'ascara.
Which was a bit silly as he didn’t wear mascara.
@crucial said in Bledisloe II:
@bovidae said in Bledisloe II:
At least Ngani hasn't resorted to wearing mascara. We used to have fun calling him Ma'ascara.
Which was a bit silly as he didn’t wear mascara.
I don’t feel silly calling him that but I clearly lack your extensive knowledge of makeup and where it’s applied . What’s your preferred pronoun?
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@crucial said in Bledisloe II:
@bovidae said in Bledisloe II:
At least Ngani hasn't resorted to wearing mascara. We used to have fun calling him Ma'ascara.
Which was a bit silly as he didn’t wear mascara.
I don’t feel silly calling him that but I clearly lack your extensive knowledge of makeup and where it’s applied . What’s your preferred pronoun?
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@chester-draws said in Bledisloe II:
The Springboks regularly pick no true openside and seem to get away with it.
Really? Are you sure you're not just getting confused by their openside wearing 6? Louw is definitely an openside, where does van Staden usually play?
@bones said in Bledisloe II:
@chester-draws said in Bledisloe II:
The Springboks regularly pick no true openside and seem to get away with it.
Really? Are you sure you're not just getting confused by their openside wearing 6? Louw is definitely an openside, where does van Staden usually play?
I didn't say always.
If there's a good big true openside, they'll play him. If there's a smaller one, Kwagga Smith, they'll happily play a body shape we would have at blindside.
I reckon Fifita would be told to go away and practice as openside in SA. He wouldn't come close to locking.
I think they're wrong, but it's how they mostly operate.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwimurph said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter Agreed but with Hooper captain and being paid so many $ they are forced into starting him.
Yeah, it's a pretty ridiculous situation they've got themselves into there.
Holy hell Folau on $2.2m? Like fuck he's worth even half of that.
How can they justify paying him that much? That's more than 1 million more than his captain! No wonder he's in no hurry to return to League.
it shows how desperate they are , to us kiwis he is seen as a bit over rated ,
But to them he is their biggest star , someone to pin their hopes on
I think they're also desperate to get League eyeballs. Maybe Leagies will watch games for Folau like we used to watch league games just for Inga (well me anyway)? They've also got no other marketable players. James O'Connor had enormous potential but we know how that went... That kid must have lost millions.
But that salary is obscene. I can't see how they could possibly get a ROI from that.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe II:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter said in Bledisloe II:
@kiwimurph said in Bledisloe II:
@no-quarter Agreed but with Hooper captain and being paid so many $ they are forced into starting him.
Yeah, it's a pretty ridiculous situation they've got themselves into there.
Holy hell Folau on $2.2m? Like fuck he's worth even half of that.
How can they justify paying him that much? That's more than 1 million more than his captain! No wonder he's in no hurry to return to League.
it shows how desperate they are , to us kiwis he is seen as a bit over rated ,
But to them he is their biggest star , someone to pin their hopes on
I think they're also desperate to get League eyeballs. Maybe Leagies will watch games for Folau like we used to watch league games just for Inga (well me anyway)? They've also got no other marketable players. James O'Connor had enormous potential but we know how that went... That kid must have lost millions.
But that salary is obscene. I can't see how they could possibly get a ROI from that.
just exposure in general , Folou is the main name in there that non rugby people have heard of ,
Also well known in AFL circles because of his money grab in that code , it was big news at the time .
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@bones said in Bledisloe II:
@chester-draws said in Bledisloe II:
The Springboks regularly pick no true openside and seem to get away with it.
Really? Are you sure you're not just getting confused by their openside wearing 6? Louw is definitely an openside, where does van Staden usually play?
I didn't say always.
If there's a good big true openside, they'll play him. If there's a smaller one, Kwagga Smith, they'll happily play a body shape we would have at blindside.
I reckon Fifita would be told to go away and practice as openside in SA. He wouldn't come close to locking.
I think they're wrong, but it's how they mostly operate.
@chester-draws no you said regularly. I don't see it regularly at all. I wouldn't call Louw big either.
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Schalk Burger got 86 caps. He's quite a lot bigger than Liam Messam and about Liam Squire sized.
And some of their selections were less mobile than that.
They do seem in recent times to have accepted smaller men though. For a large size of "smaller".
